prostitution

[sandra]

is there anything inherently wrong with prostitution?

and let's focus specifically on straight female prostitutes.

[SunWuKong]

[quote:085d3cb77e="kasia"]is there anything inherently wrong with prostitution?

and let's focus specifically on straight female prostitutes.[/quote:085d3cb77e]


i think as long as it's between two consenting adults, it's not a problem. but this precludes situations where the pimp is pumping his *ahem* hoes full of heroine to get them addicted, or prostitution rings where women from asia are being shipped over here illegally and must "pay off" their passage.

I don't think there's anything wrong with two consenting adults handling a business deal. As long as both of them are willing and realize what they're doing, it's a-ok. What goes on in one's bedroom is NO business of mine, let alone the GOVERNMENT.

But there is something wrong with the whole situation when it becomes like.. hoes working for a pimp.. making money for him and getting nothing out of it. Inherently, though... I don't think it's a big deal. No different than your run of the mill sluts who sleep with a guy because he's got a nice car. Might lack a little bit of good judgement, but it's their decision. As long as there's no.. forcing of any kind going on...

[sandra]

do you think it says anything about the dynamics of our society? how men tend to have the money to buy sex? how there is less of a stigma attached to them doing so?

[SunWuKong]

[quote:1a09f8ffba="kasia"]do you think it says anything about the dynamics of our society? how men tend to have the money to buy sex? how there is less of a stigma attached to them doing so?[/quote:1a09f8ffba]


well i think women have the money to buy sex, too. but they are less willing to do so, either because they simply don't like that, or because of the stigma attached to women actually buying sex.

i am not exactly sure why there is less stigma for men to buy sex. i think it probably has to do with how it's more acceptable for men to desire sex while one may even say that society thinks it's [i:1a09f8ffba]unacceptable[/i:1a09f8ffba] for women to desire casual sex.

[deez nuts]

[quote:78ec596506="SunWuKung"][quote:78ec596506="kasia"]do you think it says anything about the dynamics of our society? how men tend to have the money to buy sex? how there is less of a stigma attached to them doing so?[/quote:78ec596506]


well i think women have the money to buy sex, too. but they are less willing to do so, either because they simply don't like that, or because of the stigma attached to women actually buying sex.

i am not exactly sure why there is less stigma for men to buy sex. i think it probably has to do with how it's more acceptable for men to desire sex while one may even say that society thinks it's [i:78ec596506]unacceptable[/i:78ec596506] for women to desire casual sex.[/quote:78ec596506]

I think women would rather use that money to go shopping.

[quote:ca6115cc48="SunWuKung"]
well i think women have the money to buy sex, too. but they are less willing to do so, either because they simply don't like that, or because of the stigma attached to women actually buying sex.

i am not exactly sure why there is less stigma for men to buy sex. i think it probably has to do with how it's more acceptable for men to desire sex while one may even say that society thinks it's [i:ca6115cc48]unacceptable[/i:ca6115cc48] for women to desire casual sex.[/quote:ca6115cc48]

the way i see it.. women dont really NEED to buy sex... its so much easier for a woman to go out and look for sex with no strings and no charge and actually find it than it is for a man.

one of the perks of being a girl.. u wont be sex starved because no matter how ugly you are, there's always gonna be some ugly guy desparate to have sex with you. its all a matter of whether or not you'll lower yourself to do so.

[Barbs]

lately i've begun to realize that a lot more guys than i would've thought have actually been with a prostitute. i heard thru the grapevine about these random guys i know who've been to prostitutes. it's sooo disturbing! what is the appeal in it for men?

[Arex]

Originally posted by Barbs@Aug 11 2002, 10:37 PM
what is the appeal in it for men?

Maybe the sex? If this dry spell of mine keeps up, I may just join the ranks! Hahaha!

Alex

[boycott]

Originally posted by Barbs@Aug 12 2002, 06:37 AM
lately i've begun to realize that a lot more guys than i would've thought have actually been with a prostitute. i heard thru the grapevine about these random guys i know who've been to prostitutes. it's sooo disturbing! what is the appeal in it for men?

Basically men need sex like women need shoes, handbags, new clothes and more. Men need blowjobs like women need manicures. Men cheat on women like women cheat on frequent eating establishments by having men take them to new restaurants they've never been to.
Why we do all this, we don't know and I'm sure women don't know why they have their cravings either.
Hopefully, I won't insult any men or women reading this, but most men who goes to hookers are either too lazy or poor or impatient to bring regular girls out on dates and spend precious time and money just to get them in bed. The rest are just sick of being used by women and not getting super slutty porno service in bed time and time again and would rather not go through the hassle of the courting process nor put in the financial and long time investment of getting their sexual urges relieved when they can gladly fork out a lump sum to professionals and have everything fixed for less than an hour. Ultimately, guys have lots of semen like the male members of any species and they've got to constantly expel it in order to insure that his own kind will survive based on Darwinism. However, unlike the past where semen was really deposited, nowadays it isn't, not usually for unwed unions but hopefully the memory of the encounter is and the female will subconsciously or otherwise go in search of that individual for more deposit encounters. A tip for all girls; don't show a guy your sexual prowess unless he's your husband or you want him to not marry you and if you're married and don't have any sexual prowess, well you'd better learn some or you're going to lose him to someone or many people who have it, lots of it...which leads to divorce and you're back at zero starting over wondering what went wrong.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Barbs@Aug 12 2002, 06:37 AM
lately i've begun to realize that a lot more guys than i would've thought have actually been with a prostitute. i heard thru the grapevine about these random guys i know who've been to prostitutes. it's sooo disturbing! what is the appeal in it for men?

The appeal? Quick cheap sex. So you can hit it and quit it.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by boycott@Aug 20 2002, 07:12 AM
Ultimately, guys have lots of semen like the male members of any species and they've got to constantly expel it in order to insure that his own kind will survive based on Darwinism.

:huh:


visit to the sperm bank anyone? you can make a buck and expel your semen.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Aug 20 2002, 05:19 PM

:huh:


visit to the sperm bank anyone? you can make a buck and expel your semen.

Actually all kidding aside, monkeyking. It is part of Darwinism. He does have a valid point.

A major part of the "survival of the fittest" aspect relies on what is called the "alpha male." Gist of it, is the alpha male gets to mate with as many females as he can to ensure that his gene pool gets passed on. The more females he mates with, the higher the chance his gene pool gets passed on; i.e. the dominant male lion and his harem. In another example, the male wolf engages in intercourse with the female wolf. After he climaxes, he is stuck inside and attached to the female wolf for like an hour or so. This is the ensure his genetic material and only his will fertilize with the female's and that other wolves won't have the chance to procreate with her.

He was drawing the similiarities between this and men with prostitutes. Which is not the first time I heard of such a theory. Don't ask me how I remember.



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[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Aug 20 2002, 12:36 PM

Actually all kidding aside, monkeyking. It is part of Darwinism. He does have a valid point.

A major part of the "survival of the fittest" aspect relies on what is called the "alpha male." Gist of it, is the alpha male gets to mate with as many females as he can to ensure that his gene pool gets passed on. The more females he mates with, the higher the chance his gene pool gets passed on; i.e. the dominant male lion and his harem. In another example, the male wolf engages in intercourse with the female wolf. After he climaxes, he is stuck inside and attached to the female wolf for like an hour or so. This is the ensure his genetic material and only his will fertilize with the female's and that other wolves won't have the chance to procreate with her.

He was drawing the similiarities between this and men with prostitutes. Which is not the first time I heard of such a theory. Don't ask me how I remember.

yeah i understand his point, but i was thinking that darwinism doesn't really apply to humankind anymore, and that human societal values and rational thought can probably overcome any inherent genetically imbued pressure for the male to "spread his seed".

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Aug 20 2002, 11:28 PM

yeah i understand his point, but i was thinking that darwinism doesn't really apply to humankind anymore, and that human societal values and rational thought can probably overcome any inherent genetically imbued pressure for the male to "spread his seed".

That's debatable. Society and rational thought definitely is a huge factor in suppressing that urge. But, I still believe it to be in our primordial instinct. Take a look at polygamy past and present or the existence of harems. What about concubines or marriage within royal families to keep the bloodline pure.