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The campaign to remove Congressman Howard Coble from his subcommittee chair position is well underway.

Please visit http://removecoble.yellowworld.org and sign the petition!
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Old 02-08-2003, 05:10 PM
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I've just created a new mini-banner for the Howard Coble site.



Any YW member who uses the mini-banner to link on their respective homepages, sites -- even forums (aside from this one of course) -- can get a free @yellowworld.org email account with 5mb of space, spam free. PM me for more details.

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80-20, a political action committee devoted to organizing Asian American voters, has been circulating the following e-mail. Dr. S.B. Woo is the former Lt. Governor of Delaware. Information for 80-20 can be found at 80-20initiative.net.

Here's the message:

In times of uncertainty, fear, economic turndown, and/or war,
people in general, politicians in particular, seek to scapegoat.
Minorities are usually the targets. That happened in WWII. Jews
were slaughtered in Germany. Japanese Americans were interned
-- a form of imprisonment, though not comparable to the Holocaust.

Politicians are scapegoating again. Two months ago, Sen. Lott
reminisced segregation. A few days ago, Rep. Howard Coble,
Republican, NC, said that he agreed with the internment of
Japanese Americans.

Coble said, "We were at war. They (Japanese Americans) were an
endangered species. For many of these Japanese Americans, it wasn't
safe for them to be on the street. ... Some probably were intent on
doing harm to us ...."

Truth or a lie? Let's see what a blue-ribbon government
commission** had to say in 1983:

"In sum, Executive Order 9066 (Pres. F.D. Roosevelt's order to
intern) was not justified by military necessity .... The broad
historical causes that shaped these decisions were race
prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership."

In fact, Coble's comment was spurred by a radio show caller, who
pushed for interning Arab Americans. Coble disagreed with that caller
because the U.S. isn't being attacked by "a sovereign nation." The
chilling implication is that he thinks internment may be ok if our
country is being attacked.

Can you be sure that only Arab Americans are in trouble? Could it
one day be Chinese Americans, Korean Ams., Pakistani or Indonesian
Ams. depending on where our nation is having conflicts? Rep. Coble
has power in a critical position. He is the Chairman of the Crime,
Terrorism and Homeland Security Subcommittee.

Mind you, politicians scapegoat AND fly trial balloons. If
YOU sit back & do nothing, who knows what may happen.

80-20 supports Japanese American Citizens League's call for Rep.
Coble to apologize and to resign as the chairman of the Homeland
Security Subcomm. S. B. Woo, President of 80-20, has informed the
Republican leadership that how the Republican party handles this
matter will have a very strong impact on how Asian
Americans will vote in the presidential year of 2004.

80-20 is only as strong as you are! YOU MUST ACT. Fax
(preferred) or e-mail or phone the following leaders.

Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, R, IL:
Fax: (202) 225-0697, dhastert@mail.house.gov, Phone: (202) 225-2976

Rep. Tom Delay, R, TX, 10% of his constituents are APAs, Majority Leader
Fax: (202)225-5117, tom.delay@mail.house.gov, Phone: (202)225-4000

Andrew Card, Chief of Staff, The White House
Fax: (202) 456-1907

Governor Marc Racicot, MT, Chair of the National Republican Comm.
Fax: 202.863.8820, info@rnc.org, Phone: 202.863.8500

An example is shown below. However, please use your own words.

I support 80-20's position asking Rep. Coble to apologize & resign
as the chairman of the Homeland Security Subcommittee. A
leader like him threatens my sense of security for my family.
It'll affect how I'll vote in 2004.
Signature
Name, title, profession
Party, particularly if your are a Republican or an Independent
Postal address

No one who is for internment should be chairing the Homeland Security
Subcommittee. Act today to protect YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN.

"The price for liberty is eternal vigilance." -- Thomas Jefferson.




** Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians,
which investigated whether the internment was based on military
necessity.
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Old 02-10-2003, 02:00 PM
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AB, Kasia, etc... do you plan on consolidating the petition with the www.modelminority.com petition? are you guys working together?
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AB, Kasia, etc... do you plan on consolidating the petition with the www.modelminority.com petition? are you guys working together?
I'd be open to that.
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Any possibility of coordinating with Arab and Middle Eastern groups? I know his statements seem focused on the Internment but as his possible actions based on his comments would most likely affect Middle Easterners first. The sympathetic ones from that group would probably support the petition.
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Any possibility of coordinating with Arab and Middle Eastern groups? I know his statements seem focused on the Internment but as his possible actions based on his comments would most likely affect Middle Easterners first. The sympathetic ones from that group would probably support the petition.
I phoned the Council on Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee but haven't heard back from 'em. Kasie's also been spamming Arab American college students nationwide :D
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w00t w00t yellowworld crew representin in hollywood today! 600+ signatures =) (actually... have we counted?)
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Wish I was out ther ewith you guys. Great work!
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Hi:

I (like you) have made a lot of decisions, some of them bad. But at the time I made the decision, it was the best I could do for the give circumstance. I never knowingly or purposefully made a bad decision. I take responsibility for it. I believe that this is true for everyone and nations (made up only by people) do the same too.

The interment of some Americans during WWII was a bad decision, but we only know this by looking back. Sadly, no one at that time was against it. Senator Coble accurately reflects the ideas and circumstance at this moment in time. And his statement is taken from the FBI who reported on this subject; he is quoting them - (not a bad source).

I also make some bad decisions while I am here at work and I get the opportunity to correct my mistakes and move on, we all do this, Coble too. You don't loose your job for making a mistake, especially if it is likely not to be a mistake.

Can you forgive this person instead of seeking revenge for what may be mistake?
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We cannot forgive him if he never asks for an apology.

Not acknowledging he is wrong means it is possible he will make such a mistake again. I am not out for revenge, as that would accomplish nothing. I am merely trying to prevent any mistakes from happening. Considering he is in a powerful position to enact legislation that affects us all, his next mistake could be a sin.
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Hi:

I (like you) have made a lot of decisions, some of them bad. But at the time I made the decision, it was the best I could do for the give circumstance. I never knowingly or purposefully made a bad decision. I take responsibility for it. I believe that this is true for everyone and nations (made up only by people) do the same too.

The interment of some Americans during WWII was a bad decision, but we only know this by looking back. Sadly, no one at that time was against it. Senator Coble accurately reflects the ideas and circumstance at this moment in time. And his statement is taken from the FBI who reported on this subject; he is quoting them - (not a bad source).

I also make some bad decisions while I am here at work and I get the opportunity to correct my mistakes and move on, we all do this, Coble too. You don't loose your job for making a mistake, especially if it is likely not to be a mistake.

Can you forgive this person instead of seeking revenge for what may be mistake?
We are hardly seeking revenge. And we disagree that it was a rational decision even given the circumstances at the time the decision was made. Coble stands by his words that the internment of all Japanese Americans was justifiable because "some Japanese Americans were probably intent on harm", just as "some Arab Americans are probably intent on doing harm". It is not unimaginable that he might think that given the current circumstances, it would be necessary to take away certain civil liberties of Arab Americans just because of their ethnic background - which was exactly what happened to Japanese Americans during WW2. His actions and words reflect on what kinds of decisions he may make in the future. We believe that he is a danger to the civil liberties of law abiding Americans as the Chairman of the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
 

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