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Old 12-02-2009, 12:12 PM
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New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/ny...3marriage.html

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Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

c'est la vie. ppl just aren't ready for it. in every state where a vote has been put to the ppl, it's been voted down. those senators were prolly just considering voter sentiment.
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America is pretty backwards most of the time.
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Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

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“Advocates for same-sex marriage have attempted to portray their cause as inevitable,” Richard E. Barnes, the executive director of the New York State Catholic Conference, said in the statement. “However, it has become clear that Americans continue to understand marriage the way it has always been understood, and New York is not different in that regard. This is a victory for the basic building block of our society.”
Lovely. Why is it that "tradition" is the best reason anyone can come up with for why same sex marriage should be prohibited? Tradition may be a reason for doing something, but it isn't a valid justification for doing it.

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“Advocates for abolition have attempted to portray their cause as inevitable,” Richard E. Barnes, the executive director of the New York State Catholic Conference, said in the statement. “However, it has become clear that Americans continue to understand slavery the way it has always been understood, and New York is not different in that regard. This is a victory for the basic building block of our society.”
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“Advocates for desegregation have attempted to portray their cause as inevitable,” Richard E. Barnes, the executive director of the New York State Catholic Conference, said in the statement. “However, it has become clear that Americans continue to understand segregation the way it has always been understood, and New York is not different in that regard. This is a victory for the basic building block of our society.”
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“Advocates for women's suffrage have attempted to portray their cause as inevitable,” Richard E. Barnes, the executive director of the New York State Catholic Conference, said in the statement. “However, it has become clear that Americans continue to understand the right to vote the way it has always been understood, and New York is not different in that regard. This is a victory for the basic building block of our society.”
At least this gives me hope that it's only a matter of time:

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Polls suggest that voters in New York favor same-sex marriage, though the electorate is clearly split. A poll released Wednesday by the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in Poughkeepsie showed that 51 percent of registered voters supported same-sex marriage while 42 percent opposed it.
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Re: New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

it's an uphill battle, but one that will be won with time.
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