Jim Webb's wife is Vietnamese

[Yeahman]

Originally Posted by yoMAMA

also i should add that the GOP are slaves to the religious right-the southernization of the party.

And the NRA.
And the Dems are slaves to Planned Parenthood.

[yoMAMA]

Originally Posted by Golden Monkey

Macaca Goldstein

george allen?

[returntosender]

Originally Posted by Golden Monkey

"Minority" or "Asian"?
I'll bet there are plenty of Asian males more offended by this relationship than by Macaca Goldstein calling an Indian guy a rarely used racial slur.

lol. I'll bet you're right. And I bet there WILL be some smartass Asian guys voting for Allen only because Webb's wife is Vietnamese.

[yoMAMA]

here's an interesting article about webb:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/conten.../061030fa_fact

[yoMAMA]

Originally Posted by returntosender

lol. I'll bet you're right. And I bet there WILL be some smartass Asian guys voting for Allen only because Webb's wife is Vietnamese.

white guy with an asian wife is like a black guy with a white wife:

there's nothing unusual about it (and society seems to accepted it).

where as asian guy with white women or white guy with black women-those are rare.

[Animaeish]

Way to kill a thread yoMAMA. ;)

Actually I agree the interacial match-ups you mentioned (AF/WM & WF/BM) are more common in the real world. However in the White controlled world of media and advertizing the fomer is EXTREMELY common these days while the latter is almost completely unheard of. White people (men) like to see the AF/WM match ups because it benefits them while WF/BM relationships still make them uncomfortable. Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are. This type of double standard and bias in the media is what pisses me off the most against White people right now.

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by Animaeish

Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are.

Your'e kidding right?

[Animaeish]

Originally Posted by BigLew

Your'e kidding right?

NO, YOU are kidding by asking me this right? I rarely watch tv these days and scattered over the last several weeks I've seen over a dozen tv shows, movies and tv commericals with AF/WM couples and 0 with WF/BM. Where is the joke there?

The ONLY exceptions are movies like "Save the Last Dance" where that particular type of interacial couple is the point of the plot.

[BigLew]

Love Field
The Pelican Brief
Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner
Save The Last Dance
Wild Things 2
Jungle Fever
White Lies
Black and White
Liberty Stands Still
A Patch of Blue
The Lost Man
Shaft
187
Slaughter
I, Robot
Captive Heart
Bad Boys
Daybreak
Suburbia
Courage Under Fire
Moll Flanders
Bad Company
Mandingo
Dawn of the Dead
Country of my Skull
Holes
Marci X
Pieces of April
Thirteen
Far From Heaven
Just a Kiss
The New Guy
Undercover Brother
The Brothers
Save the Last Dance
Storytelling
"O"

Now these are some American movies that have black men romantically involved with white women, and not nearly a complete one.

Originally Posted by Animaeish
Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are.

Basically, without calling you a complete moron, I am saying you are talking out of the side of your neck. You can prove me wrong by listing half as many examples where an Asian male is a "sex symbol" in American media.....


I'm waiting.

[Animaeish]

Originally Posted by BigLew

Love Field
The Pelican Brief
Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner
Save The Last Dance
Wild Things 2
Jungle Fever
White Lies
Black and White
Liberty Stands Still
A Patch of Blue
The Lost Man
Shaft
187
Slaughter
I, Robot
Captive Heart
Bad Boys
Daybreak
Suburbia
Courage Under Fire
Moll Flanders
Bad Company
Mandingo
Dawn of the Dead
Country of my Skull
Holes
Marci X
Pieces of April
Thirteen
Far From Heaven
Just a Kiss
The New Guy
Undercover Brother
The Brothers
Save the Last Dance
Storytelling
"O"

Now these are some American movies that have black men romantically involved with white women, and not nearly a complete one.



Basically, without calling you a complete moron, I am saying you are talking out of the side of your neck. You can prove me wrong by listing half as many examples where an Asian male is a "sex symbol" in American media.....


I'm waiting.

First of all, by calling me a moron you reveal your method of argument and maturity. Second, many of your examples are like I said, are intended to make a controversial or political point or they are NOT really romantic relationships. Third I was using the Asian Male sex symbol as a metaphor for obscurity.

But ok, you want examples... okay. But even someone as infantile as YOU can appreciate the fact that Asians make up maybe 2% of the population while Blacks are about 13%. So by Per Capita Representation I can easily provide you with a proportionate number of movie examples to prove what I was in fact talking about:

Joy Luck Club
Come See The Paradise
Heaven And Earth

Forrest Gump
The World Of Suzie Wong

And what about advertising? How often do you see Black men in a ROMANTIC situation with White women? I have seen several over the years with White Men and Asian women.... even involving kissing and holding hands, which seem taboo in advertizing for white women and minorities.

[Animaeish]

I acidentally posted before I was finished but here are over half the number of your list where ther is a sexual and/or romantic relationship betwen white males and asian females mostly of the top of my head:

Joy Luck Club
Come See The Paradise
Heaven And Earth
Midway
Forrest Gump
Pushing Hands
The World Of Suzie Wong
Karate Kid II
Double Happiness
Sayonara
Rambo
Missing In Action
Full Metal Jacket
Hamburger Hill
Last Samurai

Considering the number of Asians compared to the number of Blacks, that is more than enough to make my point. But you know, given time I'm sure you could probably double or triple this list.

[Golden Monkey]

Originally Posted by Animaeish

Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are. This type of double standard and bias in the media is what pisses me off the most against White people right now.

You claim to be hapa. Are you a black/Asian hapa mix?

Because otherwise why would you be upset about the supposed lack of WF/BM relationship movies?

It's one thing to speak of lack of Asian male presence in the media but if anything black males are overrepresented in the media. I haven't done a review of WF/BM movies but Lew gave an extensive list.

But the list you gave of WM/AFs was mostly war movies based outside the US.

I still don't think there are many WM/AF movies based in the US about average Americans.

You also failed to notice most Spike Lee movies which often play to the black male desire for White females as sex objects.

But where's the desire for AM/AF movies?

It's interesting how White women remain the ultimate trophy for males of any race even if they are only fantasizing about it through a movie.

[Animaeish]

You both completely misunderstand my point. I am saying the White dominant media of America disproportionately show White males with minority females (especially Asian women) and much less often shows White females in a truly romantic role with minority males. Many of the examples BigLew listed are simply Black men starring with White women with a romantic relationship merely implied at best. My examples have much more explicit relationships. And the advertising side of my post was not addressed. I have seen White men kissing Asian women in commercials for breath mint and holding hands in commercials for hardware stores... has anyone seen similar advertising with White women and any minorities?

[Golden Monkey]

Originally Posted by Animaeish

I have seen White men kissing Asian women in commercials for breath mint and holding hands in commercials for hardware stores... has anyone seen similar advertising with White women and any minorities?

I have never seen WM/AF kissing in commercials. But I'm not studying this like you are. I have seen WF/BM in commercials for soda and the like advertised on the music channels.

It's still not that common to show WM/AF relationships among average American of current times in movies and TV. If you exclude movies set outside the US or war movies you really cut back the number by 90%.

Ok, there are more WM/AF TV/movies than WF/BM shows but WM/AF are still more rare in the media than in real life.

But again why the obsession with White women as the prize?

Where are the Asian male/Asian female relationships. THAT'S the big question.

Why doesn't that anger you as much?

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by Animaeish

Hence WF/BM relationships are as rare to see in movies, television, magazines, etc. as Asian male sex symbols are.

LOL!! Dude I'm quoting you for a 3rd time on the same phrase. Based on this quote I listed WF/BM pairings in movies, that you said were as rare as "ASIAN MALE SEX SYMBOLS" and you come back with a list of WM/AF pairings!?

You also list a movie like Joy Luck Club!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You're major. Joy Luck Club asian males are some of the worst racist stereotyping Hollywood has to offer on being the complete opposite of male sex symbols.

As far as you crying about the moron comment, I concede, but that has nothing to do with the argument, just like your rebuttal list of WM/AF pairings.