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Old 11-16-2002, 04:10 PM
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I've heard it before but i don't use the term since i speak english almost all the time.

But my friend who's white says that because the term addresses him by his race therefore it is racist.

I think he's kinda right.

What do you think?

I heard the term from my father and grandfather and i'm sure everyone uses it. I don't know if we mean it to be racist or not.

I never thought anythign of it.
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Old 11-16-2002, 04:20 PM
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Old 11-16-2002, 06:22 PM
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(I speak Canto so I know what "gwailo" means but no clue what "lofan" is)

But I disagree with his claim. The word's common slang now - it's lost its literal meaning, it's used cause there's no other slang for it. It's almost like the word oriental.. a lot of people use it today without knowing that it was considered derogatory back then.
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Old 11-16-2002, 07:30 PM
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I've never been offended by any term for foreigner or white person. And I think I've heard all the major nasty ones.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by blue__blood@Nov 17 2002, 02:22 AM
(I speak Canto so I know what "gwailo" means but no clue what "lofan" is)

But I disagree with his claim. The word's common slang now - it's lost its literal meaning, it's used cause there's no other slang for it. It's almost like the word oriental.. a lot of people use it today without knowing that it was considered derogatory back then.
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Old 11-16-2002, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE:
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(I speak Canto so I know what "gwailo" means but no clue what "lofan" is)

But I disagree with his claim.  The word's common slang now - it's lost its literal meaning, it's used cause there's no other slang for it.  It's almost like the word oriental.. a lot of people use it today without knowing that it was considered derogatory back then.
Old Rice! Old Rice! Get it now... :P
Old Rice! Old Rice! Get it now?... :P

Forgot the question mark in the previous reply
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Old 11-16-2002, 07:49 PM
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Eh, it's not flattering, but I wouldn't really call it racist.
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Old 11-16-2002, 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by hormiga@Nov 16 2002, 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by blue__blood@Nov 17 2002, 02:22 AM
(I speak Canto so I know what "gwailo" means but no clue what "lofan" is)

But I disagree with his claim.  The word's common slang now - it's lost its literal meaning, it's used cause there's no other slang for it.  It's almost like the word oriental.. a lot of people use it today without knowing that it was considered derogatory back then.
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eh... no, wrong tone.

lo fan as in fan gwai lo
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Old 11-17-2002, 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by SunWuKung@Nov 17 2002, 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by hormiga@Nov 16 2002, 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by blue__blood@Nov 17 2002, 02:22 AM
(I speak Canto so I know what "gwailo" means but no clue what "lofan" is)

But I disagree with his claim. The word's common slang now - it's lost its literal meaning, it's used cause there's no other slang for it. It's almost like the word oriental.. a lot of people use it today without knowing that it was considered derogatory back then.
Old Rice! Old Rice! Get it now... :P
eh... no, wrong tone.

lo fan as in fan gwai lo
old rice? no it is the wrong tone.
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Old 11-17-2002, 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Nov 17 2002, 12:10 AM
I've heard it before but i don't use the term since i speak english almost all the time.

But my friend who's white says that because the term addresses him by his race therefore it is racist.

I think he's kinda right.

What do you think?

I heard the term from my father and grandfather and i'm sure everyone uses it. I don't know if we mean it to be racist or not.

I never thought anythign of it.
it's not racist merely because it addresses him by his race. a white person calling me chinese is addressing me by my race, but that wouldn't constitute 'racist'...or would it?

gwai-lo = ghost man
gwai poh - = ghost woman.

i have no idea what lo faan means.

i don't think the terms are always used offensively--depends on who's saying it and in what context.
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Old 11-17-2002, 11:34 AM
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Okay looks like us young folks can't figure this out, so there's just one thing left go to your grandparents and ask them to explain it (that is IF they know) :angry: .
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Old 11-17-2002, 11:38 AM
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Getting back to your original question, I think the two examples you've given are probably more acceptable than BOK GWAI! :D
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i've never seen lo faan written before, but i'm almost certain it's the same faan as faan ke (tomato) and faan syu (sweet potato). it means western (technically it's "barbarian").

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faan syu (sweet potato).
Dai Faan Syu from Lo Fu Zhi! :D
 
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