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Old 11-26-2002, 08:09 AM
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CFL QB Timmy Chang thread

His coach, June Jones, predicts that Timy Chang will win a Heisman before he's done at Hawaii. Chang is currently a redshirt Sophomore and has 2 years of elegibility left after this year. Jones is a former NFL QB and former NFL head coach.

Hawaii passes a lot in that offense, so Chang should have some good numbers. Players from small schools with big numbers have won before. Hawaii usually has pretty good teams, so maybe one of the next 2 years they really put it together and go like 10-1 or something.

Keys to winning the Heisman - put up big numbers for a winning team.

Working against him is that he plays for Hawaii. Most Heisman voters are asleep when he plays and will never watch him.

I think it'd be huge for Asian American atheletes if he did win the Heisman. This is a guy raised in America playing QB and winning the biggest individual trophy in college football. Sure Dat Nguyen won the Lombardi (I think, or maybe the Butkis) award a few years ago for being the best lineman or linebacker, but this is the Heisman.

Sure he's proabbly a longshot, but we're just speculating here.

Here's a quote from the article:
"Hawaii coach June Jones has never been afraid to say what's on his mind. His latest comment of note: Warriors quarterback Timmy Chang will win a Heisman before he leaves the program. Chang, a sophomore, entered Saturday's game against Cincinnati fourth in the country in total offense. "He'll win the Heisman Trophy if he maintains what he's doing," Jones told reporters. "What's the pressure? If he does what he's doing right now, he'll win it." Knowing Jones, he was serious about the prediction. But he was also making sure the rest of the country didn't forget about his guy. Can't say we blame him, especially after Chang led Hawaii to a come-from-behind win against the Bearcats"

You can read it here in note 5.
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Old 11-26-2002, 08:23 AM
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God, that would be great for every Asian American kid that's ever wanted to play football.

Did you know that Roman Gabriel (QB for the Rams in the 1960s) is Filipino?

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Old 11-26-2002, 09:22 AM
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Well, there's lots of Samoans and Pacific Islanders, Junior Seau, for example.

But a guy with a traditional East Asian surname would be huge from a public perception standpoint.
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Well, there's lots of Samoans and Pacific Islanders, Junior Seau, for example.

But a guy with a traditional East Asian surname would be huge from a public perception standpoint.
Yeah. You know it. It WILL happen. I just hope I'm alive when I see a starting NFL QB named Chang, Kim, or Nguyen.
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Well I'm just glad to see a Asian start at QB for a Div. I team -- that in of itself is huge, I think.

I'll refrain from jumping on the Heisman bandwagon, since the guy hasn't even taken a snap yet.
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Well I'm just glad to see a Asian start at QB for a Div. I team -- that in of itself is huge, I think.

I'll refrain from jumping on the Heisman bandwagon, since the guy hasn't even taken a snap yet.
There was another Asian American QB from Hawaii that started for Montana or Montana State a couple of years ago. He didn't get much notice because it was Montana, after all, and he was an option quarterback.
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Well I'm just glad to see a Asian start at QB for a Div. I team -- that in of itself is huge, I think.

I'll refrain from jumping on the Heisman bandwagon, since the guy hasn't even taken a snap yet.
He's a 2 year starter with 2 more years.
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Another one of the great yellow hope...

All the best to him, but I don't care about UH so I am not gonna root for him.
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Another one of the great yellow hope...

All the best to him, but I don't care about UH so I am not gonna root for him.
The "crab mentality" at it's best. Why don't we stick together and hold hands?
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The "crab mentality" at it's best. Why don't we stick together and hold hands?
Hey, whatever, if you want to root for someone because he is the same race as you then go ahead.

I don't know anything about this guy. And I don't care about UH. Why would I instantly root for him?
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Another one of the great yellow hope...

All the best to him, but I don't care about UH so I am not gonna root for him.
The "crab mentality" at it's best. Why don't we stick together and hold hands?
you have to remember that you're replying to someone that didn't sign the Kung Fool petition.
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Another one of the great yellow hope...

All the best to him, but I don't care about UH so I am not gonna root for him.
The "crab mentality" at it's best. Why don't we stick together and hold hands?
you have to remember that you're replying to someone that didn't sign the Kung Fool petition.
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Another one of the great yellow hope...

All the best to him, but I don't care about UH so I am not gonna root for him.
The "crab mentality" at it's best. Why don't we stick together and hold hands?
you have to remember that you're replying to someone that didn't sign the Kung Fool petition.
Does that make me inferior?
Did I say you were inferior?
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The "crab mentality" at it's best.  Why don't we stick together and hold hands?
Hey, whatever, if you want to root for someone because he is the same race as you then go ahead.

I don't know anything about this guy. And I don't care about UH. Why would I instantly root for him?
So why don't you learn about him so you can root for him. I assume you root for other people/groups that you have just as distant/tenuous a relationship to. Why draw the line here?

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So why don't you learn about him so you can root for him. I assume you root for other people/groups that you have just as distant/tenuous a relationship to. Why draw the line here?

Alex
Because, I don't care about UH.

If he were playing for the University of Maryland then I'd root for him.

Is it my obligation to like a QB who has not even yet taken a snap simply because of his race? No.

Am I a Dat Nguyen fan? No, I am a hater. Why? cuz he plays for the Cowboys and I am a Skins fan.


Why didn't you root for Maryland when we had a player named Wu? We even had a WU cheer, whenever he did something great, everyone would yell WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! Did you care? No.
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