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Old 11-23-2005, 02:12 AM
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Sexism in legal system

A middle school teacher pleads guilty of having sex with a fourteen year old, but doesn't get sent to prison.

Why?

Because the teacher was a woman, and the student was a boy.

If a male teacher would have had consenting sex with a fourteen year old student, there's no way he could have avoided prison for doing what he did.

It seems like a double standard.
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:45 AM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

I agree with you. I hope she at least has to register as a sex offender.
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:02 AM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

She didn't get sent to jail because it was oh-so-HOT.

But seriously, I thought all of these female teachers were going to jail. Did one of them actually manage to argue against the established weight of the law and avoid a jail sentence?
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:30 AM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

I'm guessing she plead to a lesser charge?
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:03 AM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

When it's a male at fault, usually they're viewed as more or less knowing what they're doing, and when it's a female she's viewed as having mental problems.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:07 AM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

I think men are also more forgiving than women are towards female sex offenders. Like the young guy is a stud for nailing his teacher. I'd be furious if it happened to my son. If the teacher was good looking, I don't think my husband would be very upset. Maybe even proud.
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Re: Sexism in legal system

To be quite honest, if my 14 year old daughter fucked her teacher, I would be pissed and want his ass thrown in jail.

But if 14 year old son scored with this



I'd give him a high five.
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Re: Sexism in legal system

It does kind of give the impression that the women don't know any better, and that guys are supposed to score, whereas girls are innocent flowers.
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Old 11-23-2005, 12:38 PM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

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She didn't get sent to jail because it was oh-so-HOT.

But seriously, I thought all of these female teachers were going to jail. Did one of them actually manage to argue against the established weight of the law and avoid a jail sentence?
In the few publcized cases involving attractive female teachers in america, those women didn't get jail time. This latest case didn't, and Mary Kay Letournea was originally given only probahation. Mary Kay only went into jail went she violated her probahation, after getting caught having sex with the same minor again.

But, you're correct that her hotness played a factor in the leniency shown by the court.

There was another case in the news recently, where another woman was charged with having sex with a minor. In that case, 40+ woman got drunk with two teenage boys and had sex with them because she wanted to be a 'cool mom'. However, she ended up getting hit with 30 years because she wasn't as hot as those women who avoided jail.

For me, I would think that a teacher having sex with a student is even worse than an adult having sex with a minor and would have expected more punishment against the teacher.
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Re: Sexism in legal system

I guess the scenario usually plays into too many male sexual fantasies for any jury to muster up the rage needed to impose a maximum sentence. It's hard to send off a person to jail when it seems that no real harm was done and that the "victim" actually liked what happened.

It's also easier to see this ambiguity in cases where Mrs. Robinson has bedded the stereotype of the young hormonal adolescent rather than some older man bedding the archetypal impressionable, emotional teenage girl.
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Old 11-23-2005, 01:38 PM
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Re: Sexism in legal system

It still seems disturbing that we judge such cases through the prism of how attractive the woman is. Imagine if we were to do that as well to date rape cases, where we let off all the attractive men accused of date rape and punished only the ugly men. Then, there would be lots of justified rage and protests at such a ruling, but these female teacher cases attract more curiosity than anything else.
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Re: Sexism in legal system

I'm guessing unattractive people overall, both men and women, tend to get convicted at a higher rate and receive harsher punishment than attractive people, no matter the crime. In the case of date rape, I'm betting it's easier to establish reasonable doubt as to whether the sex was consensual when you look like Pierce Brosnan or Johnny Depp than if you look like Steve Buscemi. (No offense, Steve.)



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Re: Sexism in legal system

^Interesting notion. Institutionalized lookism in the criminal justice system.

I wonder if anybody would fund such research.
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Re: Sexism in legal system

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^Interesting notion. Institutionalized lookism in the criminal justice system.

I wonder if anybody would fund such research.
I believe there has already been research on this issue, though I don't know of any studies off the top of my head. I remember Cialdini in one of his books on influence discusses this phenomenon. He called it the "halo effect", I think, arguing that good looking people are also assumed by juries in a Chaucer-esque way to be fundamentally good people too.
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I believe there has already been research on this issue, though I don't know of any studies off the top of my head. I remember Cialdini in one of his books on influence discusses this phenomenon. He called it the "halo effect", I think, arguing that good looking people are also assumed by juries in a Chaucer-esque way to be fundamentally good people too.
Interestingly enough, I think I've heard of such studies but the interesting twist was that being attractive helped depending on the crime. For some crimes, it was actually worse for the defendant if they were pretty or handsome.
 

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