More info on the Infiniti GT-R

[AltimaGTR]

Originally Posted by My Car Magazine - June 19th, 2005
SUPER SPORT SCOOP!
We'll see the prototype this autumn, and a January 2007 debut!



The Prototype to be shown at this years Tokyo Motor Show will still in fact be a 'design concept', but don't let that fool you. Development is well underway, and what we see at Tokyo in Autumn should be almost final.

The Next GT-R's base body type is actually a Skyline! We've seen the test-mule being trialled at Nurburgring in Germany which was a rebadged Nissan V35 Coupe (LHD Infinity G35), but actually the whole body will form the base of the next Skyline series 'V36'. This can be interpreted as 'the next Skyline (V36) will be designed around the GT-R underpinings, rather than the GT-R being based on the Skyline...'

Breaking news this time is that the Twin-turbo V6 configuration has had it's capacity increased to 3700cc. With the increased capacity, it further assists low down torque in conjunction with the electric motor assisted twin turbos, creating instant positive boost pressure when throttle is applied, giving a 'linear pick-up engine'. We expect the engine to produce in excess of 380hp, and although far higher figures have been quoted, we expect a conservative figure - in line with previous GT-R outputs from factory.



An 'ATTESA Frame' is the new type of 4WD system being used this time around, incorporating a hybrid drive system: an FR transaxel powering the rear wheels, and combined electric motors for the front wheels, similar to the system used on the Nissan March 'e-4WD', but designed with 'Super Sports' in mind, able to produce much more power and torque with an almost instant reaction time (when wheelspin is detected). This system will not bring shame upon the GT-R name as has been seen in public reation so far. A hybrid 4WD system will take car dynamics to the next level.

The car name will be 'Infinity GT-R'... not 'Skyline'.

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New info is always good, but I'm kinda wondering if the magazine made a typo calling it an "Infinity" instead of an "Infiniti." V36 platform, w00t!

[yoMAMA]

Originally Posted by AltimaGTR

The car name will be 'Infinity GT-R'... not 'Skyline'.

even in Japan?

[AltimaGTR]

^I have no clue man, I wish there were people fluent in Japanese to verify these scans.

[yoMAMA]

Originally Posted by AltimaGTR

^I have no clue man, I wish there were people fluent in Japanese to verify these scans.

the only thing i recognize there is that few kanji characters something about the large Toyota roadster[ above the skyline]a tribute to Toyota's F1 racing,

[Azn Retribution]

Heh. Somebody was mostly right.

I was wrong about the finer details.

I'm right that
it IS on a completely new platform that was designed specifically for the GT-R. Not for the "Skyline luxury coupe/sedans".

Meaning they are making a luxury car out of a sports car platform and not vice versa. I'm only wrong on the detail that the platform is will not only be used for the GT-R.

I was right about the new VQ and the electrically assisted twin turbos as well.

i can't wait for the motor show. Yay.

[mrazntre]

Originally Posted by Azn Retribution

Heh. Somebody was mostly right.

I was wrong about the finer details.

I'm right that
it IS on a completely new platform that was designed specifically for the GT-R. Not for the "Skyline luxury coupe/sedans".

Don't you think you should share some of the credit with freshalloy.com, car and driver, etc.?

[Azn Retribution]

I've given them credit
in the rather lengthly past locked Skyline thread I had a long debate with some other guy who wouldn't believe any of those specs despite those references.

I just wanted to say I was right from that one

[mrazntre]

Want a cookie?

[Azn Retribution]

No. I want the car.

Official sketches of the finished design.
from http://nissannews.com

[mrazntre]

nice corvette lights

[Azn Retribution]

the dual circular tail-lights that have been a mainstay of the skyline/GT-R predates the first corvette by a few years.

also vette = two circles same size
GT-R = two circles. outside larger than the other.

I'd still be tempted to give up my left nut for either car however.

[Arex]

Originally Posted by mrazntre

nice corvette lights

I hafta agree. While Azn Retribution has a point regarding circular tailights existing on previous Skylines, the entire tail treatment in the sketch looks more like the last three generations of Corvettes than it does the previous generation Skyline. It's not a bad look, just not very original looking.

I'm not too fond of the front though. The two nostrils with the downward turned shark mouth reminds me a little too much of the 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse.

Of course this is only a sketch. I'm sure the real thing will look nicer.

[mrazntre]

http://www.skylinegtr.com/HISTORY.html
http://history.jbskyline.net/index2.php
It appears as if the same sized dual round tails first appeared in 1968

http://www.petersen.org/images/Exhib...20Exterior.jpg
http://www.mainlineauto.com.au/produ...2)%20small.jpg

should be R32's. Those look to be the same size lights.

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st...1/1105_2mg.jpg
R33 taillight. Looks the same size to me.

And the R34 definitely has the smaller circle on the inside.

I don't know about all the early models because I don't recall the tail lights. But as far as 1963, they just had 1 round tailight/brake with a mini reverse light (which is white). I'm not sure if that counts.

Corvette started in 1953 with a single round tail light (rocket ship looking design). 1961 was the first year they introduced the four round tail lights.

So I don't know how accurate your statement is...

Originally Posted by Azn Retribution

the dual circular tail-lights that have been a mainstay of the skyline/GT-R predates the first corvette by a few years.

...unless there's something else I don't know about, I think you have it reversed.

There's a lot of similarity in the car lines too:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

[AltimaGTR]

The Corvette and GT-R all have one purpose: Kickazz performance at a kickazz price!

[Azn Retribution]

Originally Posted by mrazntre

http://www.skylinegtr.com/HISTORY.html
http://history.jbskyline.net/index2.php
It appears as if the same sized dual round tails first appeared in 1968

http://www.petersen.org/images/Exhib...20Exterior.jpg
http://www.mainlineauto.com.au/produ...2)%20small.jpg

should be R32's. Those look to be the same size lights.

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st...1/1105_2mg.jpg
R33 taillight. Looks the same size to me.

And the R34 definitely has the smaller circle on the inside.

I don't know about all the early models because I don't recall the tail lights. But as far as 1963, they just had 1 round tailight/brake with a mini reverse light (which is white). I'm not sure if that counts.

Corvette started in 1953 with a single round tail light (rocket ship looking design). 1961 was the first year they introduced the four round tail lights.

So I don't know how accurate your statement is...

...unless there's something else I don't know about, I think you have it reversed.

There's a lot of similarity in the car lines too:
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

The Skyline was not always a nissan/datsun car
it was originally a prince car and predates the corvette.

"Prince Skyline ALSI" i believe.
1957.

I'm pretty sure it had the circular tail lights because I was arguing your position before on a accord forum awhile back
and was proven wrong by some good references and pictures. The forum has since had a reset so I can't find the pics
and info in question.

It's a moot point anyway. I'm either wrong now or I was wrong then.
and yeah they do have similar lines. I wonder who ripped off who back then.