Poll: USA is losing patience on Iraq

[Yeahman]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/200...patienceoniraq

Nearly six in 10 Americans say the United States should withdraw some or all of its troops from Iraq, a new Gallup Poll finds, the most downbeat view of the war since it began in 2003.

In the Gallup Poll, 56% say the Iraq war wasn't "worth it," essentially matching the high-water mark of 57% a month ago.

We are still averaging over 2 US deaths per day in Iraq. Not anywhere near Vietnam levels but I don't think the public will take this for very long.

[ahsingjai]

U.S had always been cooperative in the world. NATO or U.N lead wars.

I really hate how Bush wants to "spread democracy" in to Iraq when we were in there to find WMDs. Then target Iran as a terrorist state again when they are a democracy. A country we wanted Iraq to destroy with WMDs we gave them...

It isn't even the deaths that concern me, since wars always come with the price of lives...

This war is still freaken unjust to me.

[Yeahman]

Originally Posted by ahsingjai

I really hate how Bush wants to "spread democracy" in to Iraq when we were in there to find WMDs. Then target Iran as a terrorist state again when they are a democracy. A country we wanted Iraq to destroy with WMDs we gave them...

Alliances change.
Iran has sponsored terrorism. And if Iran is a democracy so the "Democratic People's Republic" of Korea.

[ahsingjai]

Originally Posted by ye110man

Alliances change.
Iran has sponsored terrorism. And if Iran is a democracy so the "Democratic People's Republic" of Korea.

So if a KKK member retires and recieves social security from the government, does this mean the U.S sponsers terrorism as well?

[Yeahman]

What? If the US funded KKK activity like Iran funds Hezbollah or if the US held foreign non-combatants hostage like Iran held Americans hostage, it would be a terrorism-sponsoring nation.
If that isn't sponsoring terrorism, what is?

[ahsingjai]

Originally Posted by ye110man

What? If the US funded KKK activity like Iran funds Hezbollah or if the US held foreign non-combatants hostage like Iran held Americans hostage, it would be a terrorism-sponsoring nation.
If that isn't sponsoring terrorism, what is?

More like eye for a eye.

[Yeahman]

Is that you, Ayatollah Khamenei?

[Yeahman]

Is it just me or do you think that with Bush's rhetoric and his refusal to offer a time table for withdrawl points to the possibility that Bush really thinks that he can kill ALL the insurgants?

[ism]

Either that, or he's leaving a present for the next President. Of course, that could be his brother Jeb, and he's got a legacy to make and this is lame-ducking him. Granted, it's only been two years since the war started, and it's pretty unreasonable to expect the country to be stabilized in that time, but the Administration promised Iraqis with flowers in their guns (well, to be accurate, Adelman predicted a "cakewalk"), and Bush declared "Mission Accomplished," so I can't tell the difference between Bush's beliefs and Rove's political maneuverings. It also doesn't make sense to pre-announce your military moves in a dynamic situation unless you're advocating cutting our losses?

Bush got his second term and I'm all for him finishing what he started. I'm a little unclear on the poll and the article didn't clarify. It says 56% said the war wasn't worth it, but says 6 out of 10 say we should withdraw at least some troops. Is that the same 56% based on the same question? It was unjust, I don't think it was worth it, but I don't think we should withdraw, either.

[thaite]

A timetable is just bad idea. The US has to develop the conditions for peace and stability and it's not going to go by a timetable. MacArthur spent 7 years rebuilding Japan, and that was with a completely devastated and pacified population. We are nowhere near that condition in Iraq. Whether the war in Iraq is and was just or not is a moot argument at this point. The genie is already out of the bottle. Whether Saddam was a just ruler or not is a moot argument -- the country was stable under his rule, and now it is in chaos. For the US to withdraw without have set up a stable condition for democracy is to leave it in chaos where people will suffer greatly. We created this condition, we have to fix it.

[ahsingjai]

Originally Posted by ism

Either that, or he's leaving a present for the next President. Of course, that could be his brother Jeb, and he's got a legacy to make and this is lame-ducking him. Granted, it's only been two years since the war started, and it's pretty unreasonable to expect the country to be stabilized in that time, but the Administration promised Iraqis with flowers in their guns (well, to be accurate, Adelman predicted a "cakewalk"), and Bush declared "Mission Accomplished," so I can't tell the difference between Bush's beliefs and Rove's political maneuverings. It also doesn't make sense to pre-announce your military moves in a dynamic situation unless you're advocating cutting our losses?

Bush got his second term and I'm all for him finishing what he started. I'm a little unclear on the poll and the article didn't clarify. It says 56% said the war wasn't worth it, but says 6 out of 10 say we should withdraw at least some troops. Is that the same 56% based on the same question? It was unjust, I don't think it was worth it, but I don't think we should withdraw, either.

I hope John McCain beat Jeb Bush.

[ism]

Yeah, but if Jeb picks up Rove, Rove'll just railroad McCain through the magic of Push Polling and Whisper Campaigns. Registered Republicans will hear yet again false allegations that Cindy McCain was a drug addict, that McCain is mentally unstable due to being a POW, and that he fathered an illegitimate black child with a prostitute (the McCains actually adopted a daughter from Bangladesh).

I'd like to see a McCain/Giuliani ticket... a moderate Republican ticket would be great...

[yoMAMA]

Originally Posted by ism

Yeah, but if Jeb picks up Rove, Rove'll just railroad McCain through the magic of Push Polling and Whisper Campaigns. Registered Republicans will hear yet again false allegations that Cindy McCain was a drug addict, that McCain is mentally unstable due to being a POW, and that he fathered an illegitimate black child with a prostitute (the McCains actually adopted a daughter from Bangladesh).

I'd like to see a McCain/Giuliani ticket... a moderate Republican ticket would be great...

gotta love politics.....