 Yellowworld.org Forums |
|
#2
10-19-2002, 05:36 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I always wear my hair loose, and last year at school it was covering my chest. This horny dumbass (I'm not just trying to insult him by calling him a dumbass, I'm so serious; If he got any dumber, he'd be retarded, no exaggerations) started stroking the hair that was covering my breast and was like, "You have veerrry nice haiiirr." Creepy.
|
|
#3
10-19-2002, 05:58 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
>> oh geez...ive lost count...
>> for me sexual harassment is talking to me, touching me in a way where i dont feel comfortable and have already told him to stop but he keeps pursuing...but i know it doesnt only come in those forms... >> i remember working at a coffeeshop and i closed the store 3 times a week with my boss...my boss was oh say late forties? and he always insisted on standing in back of me when i washed the blenders and whatnot because he claimed that it was just easier that way...da fuck man? but i was desperate for a job then so i grit my teeth and put up with it...i asked the other girls there whether they did this to them too and they all said yes...fricken a man...i quit a little later...i just kinda got fed up...=P i regret not doing anything about it.... >> and yea sexual harassment didnt stop at the workplace for me...it followed me to parties and bars and wherever loser guys were at...=(...and people wonder why im bitter.
__________________
the lil lolita strikes again. |
|
#4
10-19-2002, 06:03 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
QUOTE:
sorry. if i had known all that.. i would have stopped earlier. :angry:
__________________
History in the making. |
|
#5
10-19-2002, 08:09 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
QUOTE:
Sorry to hear about all that shit. |
|
#6
10-19-2002, 09:41 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
QUOTE:
this is what i've noticed. i think i was sexually harassed more as a teenager than now. during that time, however, i never really knew if it was sexual harassment--i knew something was wrong, but i wasn't sure if it would amount to harassment or if there was much i could do about it. i think this is a common thing--that young girls are often targets--because they aren't experienced enough yet to know when to speak up. i think, in karizma's situation, he was completely taking advantage and something should have been done. only, if i were at her age, i probably wouldn't have said anything either. i would have just thought the guy was a creep. bottom line is, because the younger ones are often the targets, we need to teach them what is and is not acceptable and what they can do to protect their own dignity. also, karizma, if you told him to lay off and he fired you--he would be in deep shit. CONTACT YOUR LOCAL EEOC ! |
|
#7
10-19-2002, 10:24 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
>> kasia: geez iwish i knew you when you i was still working at the coffeeshop >_<...we coulda busted his ass! haha...
>> now that i think back on it i realize how naive it was to think it was just "normal" and that he stood in back of me because it was actually easier that way and making me go up a ladder in a skirt was no coincidence at all...but all of the girls my age working there were either too scared or too shy to really say anything =/...
__________________
the lil lolita strikes again. |
|
#8
10-19-2002, 11:50 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
QUOTE:
when i was 13, i was getting my haircut at this salon in s.f. my hair was long, and the barber was pulling down to my breasts and pressing against them as he was cutting. he wasn't groping or anything and was acting all professional, so i couldn't tell at the time if it was intentional or not. that was also the first time i went to a salon by myself. the *entire* time, i felt like i was being molested and couldn't do anything about b/c...i was too young. that incident still sticks with me. i hate hearing stories, like saiko's, about how young girls get taken advantage of in this way--it's really sick. |
|
#9
10-20-2002, 01:16 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Sexual harrassment laws are stupid, if you ask me. It gives women the right to slap a "sexual harassment" label on any guy she finds annoying. Persistence shouldn't be punished. If the guy was that bad, just make sure he gets the hint next time. Kick him in the balls, stick a finger up his ass, publicly humiliate him...
At work they made us watch sexual harassment videos in which it was defined as "unwanted comments or sexual advances... etc etc etc." By that definition, it seems like any random asshole at work could come up to me and say "hey, cutie" and if I found that annoying, I could get him fired for sexual harassment. That's stupid, considering if some other guy at work did the same thing, I could just giggle and laugh and it'd be all okay because his comments were not "unwanted." But how the fuck is the guy going to know if it's wanted or not?!? I'm not saying that sexual harassment doesn't happen. I'm saying that kinda shit should leave the punishment up to the woman. Kick him in the balls or stab him in the arm. Whatever you want. Sexual harassment doesn't exist. Unwelcome touching, groping, staring, all that shit... shouldn't be punished by law. It should be punished by my foot in your balls. Attempted rape, rape, things of that nature... now leave THAT to the law to punish.
__________________
"Go ahead and label me an asshole 'cuz I can accept responsibility for what I've done, but not for what I am." -- NOFX Visit Me @... http://www.crooked-halo.org |
|
#10
10-20-2002, 01:32 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
yeah...except if you kick someone in the balls, you'd get punished too for battery and assault.
i don't think you'd find it pleasant if someone was basically stalking you, like say asking you out again and again and again, and then when you kick his nuts open, YOU're the one who goes to jail while he just gets a bit humiliated. Then he sues you for medical bills and you still wouldn't be able to do anything about it. So I think while sexual harassment laws may go overboard, they are necessary and they are useful. Plus guys can be sexually harassed or molested too. Like when I was in 6th grade, there was this girl who made a habit of grabbing younger guys' balls. I was VERY pissed off when that happened but I couldn't do anything about it physically since I was a little 6th grader and she was either in junior high or high school. Plus I think sexual harassment laws, while they're not intended to help men for the most part, can be useful for us. Like it may be socially acceptable for a girl to slap a guy for making lewd comments to her, but if a girl say made me feel sexually uncomfortable, I couldn't just give her a bloody lip. So maybe if that situation arises for a man, he'd have to go the route of a sexual harassment suit to seek any remedy, since he can't really seek very satisfying social retribution. I mean if he started calling her a slut, maybe HE'D get sued for sexual harassment. 
__________________
http://removecoble.yellowworld.org The Sexylosers Blogring My imaginary gf and her imaginary dog :heart: YW. |
|
#11
10-20-2002, 01:36 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
whether a woman is sexually harassed is determined using the reasonable person standard. that is, they'll look at the surrounding circumstances, the past history between the woman and the guy, their relationship with one another (boss-subordinate, etc.) and so on to decide whether a reasonable person in her shoes would have felt that she was being harassed. thus, it is not easy to just "slap someone with sexual harassment." you have to prove that your claim is reasonable--and the burden of proof is on you.
in situations where a boss or teacher is the one doing the harassing, it may not be that easy to speak up because you have a lot to lose... |
|
#12
10-20-2002, 01:45 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
QUOTE:
__________________
"Go ahead and label me an asshole 'cuz I can accept responsibility for what I've done, but not for what I am." -- NOFX Visit Me @... http://www.crooked-halo.org |
|
#13
10-20-2002, 01:54 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
QUOTE:
Then again, maybe we're just conditioned to accept some sexual advances as acceptable when they shouldn't be? I dunno...certainly GUYS are conditioned to accept any female attention as flattering, except for the Amy Fisher type. :) I agree w/ kasia. i think if courts don't just randomly say anything can be sexual harassment, but instead say anything that a reasonable person finds is sexual harassment, that helps close some loopholes. plus sometimes its better to define something very broadly and just let human reason narrow it down rather than making very tight definitions that are prone to loopholes. For instance, maybe in MOST cases, asking a girl out on a date is NOT sexual harassment, but asking a girl to go out w/ him and then firing her later after she rejected him should be considered sexual harassment. But if say we didn't define asking out as possible sexual harassment, and specifically excluded it, then we wouldn't or would be less able to help out the girl.
__________________
http://removecoble.yellowworld.org The Sexylosers Blogring My imaginary gf and her imaginary dog :heart: YW. |
|
#14
10-20-2002, 02:01 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
^-- Well, I just say that having some warnings would be necessary. Like, if your only real reason for filing for sexual harassment is annoyance, that's pretty bullshit. The victim better warn the person a bunch of times first and make it absolutely fucking CLEAR that what they're doing is making them uncomfortable and adding to a hostile work environment. Then I see the purpose. But other than that, it's just giving LOTS power to people who don't really need it.
__________________
"Go ahead and label me an asshole 'cuz I can accept responsibility for what I've done, but not for what I am." -- NOFX Visit Me @... http://www.crooked-halo.org |
|
#15
10-20-2002, 10:51 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
it's really NOT that easy to bring a sexual harassment suit.
that's like saying noise ordinances shouldn't exist because they would be abused. why can't we just walk next door to tell our neighbors to shut up? by having the noise ordinances, we're allowing people to just call the police and have their neighbors ticketed every time they feel annoyed. |
«
Previous Thread
|
Next Thread
»
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
Linear Mode
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Seminar: Recognizing Discrimination, Harassment, Retaliation in the Workplace | sandra | Get Involved | 0 | 06-16-2005 04:55 PM |
| sexual harassment in the workplace | sandra | Women | 7 | 03-25-2005 11:27 PM |
| sexual harassment | nudel | Rant Room | 12 | 01-30-2003 01:13 PM |
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:46 PM.