How would you raise your kids..

[ijoined2postonc]

Before the 80s and 90s, there werent many asian migrants any where (well not here in Australia anyways..). After the late 80s, early 90s, there was a rush of asian migrants. That was 15, 20 years ago..

Now most have settled in and had familes and had kids, some already had kids and brought them along, others had kids here.

Now their kids have grown, and we're still mostly young - up to the late 20s. Most of us have grown up here, some might've lived in asia for a while. A lot of us can't speak our native language very well, and some can't speak any.

And soon enough ..well actually its already happing, the migrant's kids are having kids..

Its only begun..(well here anyways, i don't know about America) but wehn you have kids, how would you raise them?
Like how are they going learn their language, especially when some of us don't know much anyway, and since there's a bit of inter-asian (korean>jap, viet>chinese, chinese>cambo..etc.etc) which language would they learn. And what would you feed them? Rice?..can you even cook rice?? How would they like know their culture..

Also, i would like to ask, how are the half-castes raised...(the word half-caste is probably a bit offensive buh yeh..).



Now i'm probably wrong about the situation in America and elsewhere, because migrants probably went to America earlier than they did to Australia, and this would hapeen to each generation of kids that the migrants have anyways so its proabbly not only a problem now, but will be for a while.

[Grasshopper]

Better a banana than a yigger.

[tapestrybabe]

Originally Posted by ijoined2postonc

but wehn you have kids, how would you raise them?
Like how are they going learn their language, especially when some of us don't know much anyway, and since there's a bit of inter-asian (korean>jap, viet>chinese, chinese>cambo..etc.etc) which language would they learn. And what would you feed them? Rice?..can you even cook rice?? How would they like know their culture..

OH my gosh...
i have this whole fantastical fantasy of mine... that when i live in korea for my one year... i'm gonna meet a korean man, fall in love with him... marry him, and than just end up living in korea for the rest of my life.. pumping outta few korean babies and just raising my kids in korea... but i doubt thats really gonna happen... so yeah... on a more realistic note...

i know i'd still end up with a korean man... and if i were to raise a family in america with him... i'd still would want to try to raise my kids with a korean identity... and i would hope they would to be curious not just to know about my own white adoptive family... but i would hope they would end up being curious about the korean family members and history of my korean side too... which is why i feel its pertinent for me... that if i do ever decide to have a child... to find as much history i can about my own in the first place...

i'm not sure how important it is for them to actually know how to speak korean is... but i'd prolly end up bringing my child to attend korean church and stuff with me... and if i would ever take trips with my child... i would want them to experience traveling to korea as well...

[hooligan]

Originally Posted by ijoined2postonc

Before the 80s and 90s, there werent many asian migrants any where (well not here in Australia anyways..). After the late 80s, early 90s, there was a rush of asian migrants. That was 15, 20 years ago..

Now most have settled in and had familes and had kids, some already had kids and brought them along, others had kids here.

Now their kids have grown, and we're still mostly young - up to the late 20s. Most of us have grown up here, some might've lived in asia for a while. A lot of us can't speak our native language very well, and some can't speak any.

And soon enough ..well actually its already happing, the migrant's kids are having kids..

Its only begun..(well here anyways, i don't know about America) but wehn you have kids, how would you raise them?
Like how are they going learn their language, especially when some of us don't know much anyway, and since there's a bit of inter-asian (korean>jap, viet>chinese, chinese>cambo..etc.etc) which language would they learn. And what would you feed them? Rice?..can you even cook rice?? How would they like know their culture..

Also, i would like to ask, how are the half-castes raised...(the word half-caste is probably a bit offensive buh yeh..).



Now i'm probably wrong about the situation in America and elsewhere, because migrants probably went to America earlier than they did to Australia, and this would hapeen to each generation of kids that the migrants have anyways so its proabbly not only a problem now, but will be for a while.

I thought that this was my country as well as everyone else's. Can't say I've called any other place except this place as home.

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by ijoined2postonc

Also, i would like to ask, how are the half-castes raised...(the word half-caste is probably a bit offensive buh yeh..).

yeah that's offensive. please don't use the term again.

[deez nuts]

what's a yigger and a half caste?

[kimpossible]

Ideally, stay in Taiwan long enough for them to make it kindergarten through grade school. I haven't met an adult who went through Chinese school as a child that either liked it or learned a lot from it. Something Alibaba says often makes sense as well; kids have to use a language with their peers to really be able to use it. Lessons aren't enough. I also want them to be around their real grandmother's family. It's very important to me that they know who she was even if she's not physically here. No offense to current lady.

I know as a mixed kid born and raised in the US you tend to look at the Asian parent or relative as the 'foreign' one. I don't want them to look at their daddy like a foreigner and look to him as the main source of their Chinese identity. My sphere will be guiding them on how to handle a mixed Asian identity both in Asia and the West.

[AngryABCGirl]

I'd like to raise my kid in either Taiwan till they learn enough Chinese or just stay there like Kim says or else raise them in an ethnic enclave community in LA or the Bay. More and more ABC kids in LA are using Chinese constantly, it's weird to see that as trend, but it says a lot of good things about how having a strong ethnic community can be for kids and withstand external pressures to assimilate. It worked pretty well for me, and it's working even better for future generations as the community continues to get stronger and more established and more "normalized."

Too many Asian-American kids think they know their ethnic culture when they're only looking through the lens of their family or their situation of immigration rather than a holistic view. I really want to avoid that when I have children.

[ahsingjai]

I'm a ABC, and all my friends who are ABCs speak and write chinese. We can even sing Chinese.

I hope my kids grow up with simliar cultural knowledge as we did.

[hooligan]

I was thinking about this post and there's a large portion of the APIA community that's been here pre-ww2. Granted most of them aren't Chinese because of the exclusion act, their voice is as important for the APIA community. They're "bananas" and "half-castes" but they're APIAs too. I'm sure a lot of our community is going to end up like the pre-ww2 community. So, why the anger? I'm going to raise my child the way I believe will be the best to respect everyone regardless of race, creed, gender, sexual orientation or even political background.

They're also going to love being Chinese, regardless of knowing the language or not.

[deez nuts]

in terms of education, providing my kid(s) a stable environment to study and to ensure their american education is my primary goal first and foremost. so having them schooled in taiwan and living there is out of the question for me. to be perfectly honest, there's no way i can move back to taiwan and live there, even if it is for x amount of years, again.

as to culture and identity, i don't really see it as that big of an issue. i'll just do what my parents did.

as to language, it used to be that i didn't care whether or not my kid(s) spoke mandarin. but, this has changed due to yellowworld. as to teaching mandarin to them, i don't think it's gonna pose a problem. i want my kid(s) to hold a conversation in mandarin fluently.

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by Chasiubao_Boy

in terms of education, providing my kid(s) a stable environment to study and to ensure their american education is my primary goal first and foremost. so having them schooled in taiwan and living there is out of the question for me.

there's always the TAS. some of the Taiwanese people that i know here in the US went there.

Originally Posted by hooligan

I was thinking about this post and there's a large portion of the APIA community that's been here pre-ww2. Granted most of them aren't Chinese because of the exclusion act, their voice is as important for the APIA community. They're "bananas" and "half-castes" but they're APIAs too. I'm sure a lot of our community is going to end up like the pre-ww2 community. So, why the anger? I'm going to raise my child the way I believe will be the best to respect everyone regardless of race, creed, gender, sexual orientation or even political background.

sure, for me, raising children that are respectful to everyone is an issue that goes without saying. and i absolutely think that white-washed and mixed Asian kids are parts of the APIA community, too. but at the same time, i also want them to know the language and have an understanding of Chinese culture that goes beyond simply food and movies.

[deez nuts]

Originally Posted by SunWuKong

there's always the TAS. some of the Taiwanese people that i know here in the US went there.

nah, they're going to private school. if not, one of nyc's specialized high schools.

Originally Posted by hooligan

They're also going to love being Chinese, regardless of knowing the language or not.

sure. but, how does one truly love being chinese and not take the time to learn the chinese language if they don't speak it. the chinese language itself is just as important as chinese culture, chinese history etc etc etc.

[kimpossible]

In my case, I can't personally pass on their paternal Chinese culture and I would find it rather arrogant if I thought I could. The best I can do in that arena is give them access and let it develop naturally. Plus, there are certain life qualities about being around a large family group. Sure, we'd be living in a smaller apartment and probably not living high on the hog but to allow them to have the experience of running home after school to big family dinners is worth it.

[hooligan]

Originally Posted by Chasiubao_Boy

sure. but, how does one truly love being chinese and not take the time to learn the chinese language if they don't speak it. the chinese language itself is just as important as chinese culture, chinese history etc etc etc.

Well, the implications are that you have to speak Chinese to be Chinese and that's not the case. I'll learn it soon enough, I've got other things on my plate for now.

The thing is that I was raised probably more Chinese than anyone here. I got the beat downs, the familial piety, hating Japan, the whole nine yards about being Chinese. It pisses me off, when on the sole reason that I don't speak Chinese, people judge and simply dismiss me as another self-hater.

Language to me isn't as important as understanding the culture. Language can be learned, and it irks me to no end that someoen who isn't APIA can learn Chinese and be considered more Chinese than me. If that's how most people prioritize it, that's fucked up.

If that's the way you're thinking about it, then anyone who can learn Chinese is by definition, Chinese.