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Old 03-28-2005, 08:47 AM
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Rex Reed's Oldboy Review and Apology

For sewage in a cocktail shaker, there is Oldboy, a noxious helping of Korean Grand Guignol as pointless as it is shocking. What else can you expect from a nation weaned on kimchi, a mixture of raw garlic and cabbage buried underground until it rots, dug up from the grave and then served in earthenware pots sold at the Seoul airport as souvenirs? Directed by Chan-wook Park, a film-festival “comer” in this nation of emerging cinematic schlock, a cheerful drunk named Dae-su Oh disappears from the phone book and is sealed in a room for 15 years. Injected with drugs and forced to sleep every night with Valium gas that hisses through vents in the walls, he has no idea where he is, who put him there, or what he did to deserve such a fate in the first place. He keeps track of the time he’s imprisoned in this hole by etching a tattoo on his body for every year. Suddenly, he’s released in a field from the inside of a steamer trunk, more confused than ever. What follows is an extended two-hour nightmare in which he tries to track down his captors by tracing the takeout food they fed him in his cell, while the voices of his torturers contact him on cell phones and computer chat-room Web sites. What is going on here? Nobody knows. Meanwhile, he defeats an entire gang of killers with a knife sticking out of his back. He eats a live eel. A severed hand rips out a man’s teeth, one by one, with a hammer. Blood flows, there is much vomiting and incest, and more screams than Japanese kabuki. Part kung fu, part revenge-theme Charlie Chan murder mystery, part metaphysical Oriental mumbo-jumbo, all of it incomprehensible. Dae-su Oh is played by Min-sik Choi. I walked out at the point where he grabbed a pair of sharp scissors and cut his tongue off in blood-splattering close-ups. Obviously the actor is still in one piece, but I’d be willing to bet there’s some poor cow somewhere in Pusan who can no longer moo. Oldboy makes strange music, but it’s like a three-hour concerto played on a theremin.

You may reach Rex Reed via email at: rreed@observer.com.

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Old 03-28-2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: Movie Review

Just providing a link to the text on the website. Rex Reed column at Observer. You have to go down to the very bottom.

And yeah, that is a racist comment having zero to do with the review.
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Old 03-28-2005, 08:57 AM
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Re: Movie Review

and they say gay guys can get away with saying anything.

HA! up yours rex reed.

the guy also got arrested for shoplifting CD's a couple of years ago.
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Re: Movie Review

what the fuck.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: Movie Review

As soon as I can conjure up something really worthy of singeing his ego, I might send him a little message.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:15 AM
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Re: Movie Review

I think it's more being extremely condescending rather than full racist.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:45 AM
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Re: Movie Review

so freakin inappropriate and a totally unnecessary comment.
his inbox is full and my email was sent back.
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Re: Movie Review

Looks like mine went through
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:52 AM
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Re: Movie Review

okay i resent mine and it went through.
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Re: Movie Review

The term "racist" obviously does not apply here. Contemptuous and condescending is more accurate. It's a comment on a type of Korean food and culture, not their genes or "race".

But is he wrong?

Was the movie any good and are there any kimchee lovers in the house?

If the US was feeding kimchee to the muslims at Guantanemo and Abu Gharib it would be considered a war crime, let me tell you.
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Re: Movie Review

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But is he wrong?

Was the movie any good and are there any kimchee lovers in the house?

If the US was feeding kimchee to the muslims at Guantanemo and Abu Gharib it would be considered a war crime, let me tell you.
Uh what are you talking about. Plenty of people here consider kimchee a staple and/or like it.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:38 PM
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Re: Movie Review

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The term "racist" obviously does not apply here. Contemptuous and condescending is more accurate. It's a comment on a type of Korean food and culture, not their genes or "race".

But is he wrong?

Was the movie any good and are there any kimchee lovers in the house?

If the US was feeding kimchee to the muslims at Guantanemo and Abu Gharib it would be considered a war crime, let me tell you.
and if idiots grew on trees, you might be hanging from one.

hahah ,but it's alright, i'm gonna use this tongue face emoticon and suddenly my disparaging remark is all fun and games!!!
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:59 PM
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Re: Movie Review

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Uh what are you talking about. Plenty of people here consider kimchee a staple and/or like it.
OK, but still that doesn't make his comments "racist".

I don't eat meat other than fish. But if I made comments about America's obsession with eating dead animal parts that's a comment on culture not race.

So if I comment on Billy Bob eating hunks of dead cow I'm commenting on his food culture not his race. And you know what - he wouldn't care anyway.

And obviously jokes about kimchee are just that. Jokes.

Italians don't get upset about pizza and pasta jokes.

People like to joke about food. Like how bad English food is or how spicey some food can be.

Remember the old Taco Bell ad - "Make a run for the border".

They actually unknowingly made a joke about their own product.
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:13 PM
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"american" isn't a race.

when you review a movie. you criticize the movie.
not an integral part of a nation's dominant culture.

and eating meat isn't an integral part of billy bob's culture.

okay nevermind. i don't know where your logic lies.
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^Not only this, but he associates this potshot at kimchi with the worth of the entire korean nation or the korean people. At least, that's what I got when I read between the lines.
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