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Old 08-17-2002, 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by krissy@Aug 17 2002, 01:01 AM
...women want everything.
That should be the final say of this thread :D

Do attractive people have it "better" in our society? Yes. Will men, when confronted by two women of equal intelligence but unequal attractiveness, respond accordingly? Yes. Would women in the same situation? Yes. Let's no kid ourselves, looks matter.

It's about determining how much it matters, and to each his/her own.

I don't think there's anything wrong with women doing what they can to get what they want. Men do it all the time. I don't think it's such a bad thing -- just as long as you don't completely buy into the lie...
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Old 08-17-2002, 09:28 AM
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i think attractive females, as well as attractive males, get better treatment by virtue of being attractive. i don't think being asian, however, has much to deal with it unless you're dealing with a person with an asian fetish. (and really, there is a population of white guys with an asian fetish but they're not *everywhere*, right?)

i personally give attractive people better treatment as well--not intentionally, but sometimes just because attractive people are more pleasant to be around. they're more confident, comfortable with themselves, etc. i know that isn't always the case, but i've had bad experiences with many unattractive friends who have never failed to sneak in snide comments, etc., whenever possible b/c of their own insecurities. i feel one can let their guard down more often with truly attractive people.

people say it's wrong to judge people by their looks because it is a trait that one cannot change. <-- that statement in itself is up for debate now with make-up, gyms, plastic surgery, etc. but really, we judge people on other things that they may not be personally responsible for. for example, artists. we praise them. but i think that the talent they have is at least partially natural--something they are born with. we even judge people based on their moral character. but one's moral character depends on one's upbringing and social environment. if we can judge people harshly on their moral character or their having or lacking a talent, we can surely judge them on their looks without feeling bad about it.

oh--and when the *unattractiveness* is a result of poor personal hygiene, i take that offensively and am morally repulsed by it. :angry:



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Old 08-17-2002, 11:00 AM
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I don't understand why this is such a big deal. So what if we give more attention to someone attractive. That's what we're hard-wired to do, to find an attractive mate.

And to the extent that men are guilty of it, I agree. I'm not gonna approach a woman I don't find attractive and start talking with her and hope to get her in bed. Sorry to sound cruel, but it's real life. Whether I want to stay with her, then personality and compatibility comes into play. But, what's the initial reason for even putting myself on the line, go up and talk to her; how she looks.

And women are just as guilty of it too, hell I've seen at bar and clubs guys get shot down by hot girls just because he doesn't live up to her expectations, looks wise. What is she gonna notice his 180 IQ or how truly understanding and sensitive he is? No, it's whether he looks good to her. That's the make or break factor that determines whether he goes onto round two.

It's human nature. There's a reason why plastic surgery and the diet industry is booming. Beauty is subjective, but thats a whole another topic.





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Old 08-17-2002, 11:29 AM
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Well... i never said it was a big deal. It was just an observation i was making... when it comes to the attention i receive when i make that effort to make myself look good. And i admit.... depending on how i dress.. it all kinda changes my attitude about myself.. like when i dress in a business suit.. i feel professional. Or when i wear a dress and make up.. it makes me feel feminine... or when i wear like a black leather jacket... i feel tough... And i feel how i present myself... kinda changes my attitude... and as a result... kinda changes the attention i get...
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Old 08-18-2002, 08:35 PM
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I don't think I'm the nicest looking, but it seems like I'm fine enough to get attention. Not trying to be conceited or anything. But it is kind of funny how you sometimes get "special treatment" from lusty eyed guys. I admit that I sometimes do manipulate people. But I don't take it too far. What's the harm in having them fetch something for me? I wouldn't work them like dogs or lure the money out of anybody. It's kind of funny when in class, a guy tells some other person (male or female) to shove it when they ask for a favour. Then they often obey when I ask. Then again, if you think about it, it's kind of sad. Brush away an ugly person for being ugly. It's not as if they could choose to be fugly or super model yummy when they're born. But Kasia also has a good point. Unattractiveness caused by bad hygiene is blech. Keep yourselves clean, people.
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Old 08-18-2002, 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Saiko@Aug 18 2002, 10:35 PM
I don't think I'm the nicest looking, but it seems like I'm fine enough to get attention. Not trying to be conceited or anything. But it is kind of funny how you sometimes get "special treatment" from lusty eyed guys. I admit that I sometimes do manipulate people. But I don't take it too far. What's the harm in having them fetch something for me? I wouldn't work them like dogs or lure the money out of anybody. It's kind of funny when in class, a guy tells some other person (male or female) to shove it when they ask for a favour. Then they often obey when I ask. Then again, if you think about it, it's kind of sad. Brush away an ugly person for being ugly. It's not as if they could choose to be fugly or super model yummy when they're born. But Kasia also has a good point. Unattractiveness caused by bad hygiene is blech. Keep yourselves clean, people.
I couldn't agree with you more. :D
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is that why i get treated like shit?

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http://iistix.com/_stixandstones/itmustsuc...ktobeamale.html

>> the article is written by a girl who feels that because she is an asian female, an attractive one at that, life is a little more easier. do you think this is true? would you ever flaunt your looks to get something?
i wonder what that chick looks like.

most guys that yell "holla" are usually black and according to my unofficial census, black guys hit on anything that's female. I mean ANYTHING. ANYTHING. fat, skinnny, ugly, booty, trashy, slutty, dirty and all combinations thereof.

IS that author a korean chick?


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beauty is quite subjective. I've heard someone say that Margaret Cho was fine. *bEEEARF*


GUYS-- haven't you ever messed around in traffic before? when you just check out WHATEVER the hell is around you? because there's absolutely nothing else to do? I usually like to mess with girls who make little gestures to try to look cute. it's all good. I bet the hispanic guy was just being sarcastic.
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there's this saying... "girls who think that they're intelligent want to be thought of as beautiful. girls who think that they're beautiful want to be thought of as intelligent."

what do you think?
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Old 09-01-2002, 10:53 PM
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I'm actually really interested in this whole 'survival of the prettiest', thing. In Psychology Today, or was it Discover magazine? there was one issue on beauty and attraction. It was really interesting. I wish I had a copy of it.
 

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