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>> the article is written by a girl who feels that because she is an asian female, an attractive one at that, life is a little more easier. do you think this is true? would you ever flaunt your looks to get something?
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life can be easy for attractive women if they know how to handle the sometimes unwanted attention.

but what happens if the women are unattractive? not so peachy anymore...

but what do i know? i'm not a woman.



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>> upon meeting a stranger, would you treat a woman who was attractive better than one who wasnt?
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Old 08-16-2002, 10:11 PM
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>> the article is written by a girl who feels that because she is an asian female, an attractive one at that, life is a little more easier. do you think this is true? would you ever flaunt your looks to get something?
Actually, I'm glad you brought this topic to our attention. I was at Circuit City getting a new plan for my cell phone. While I was in there, there's this guy who immediately greeted me and my other Asian friend. While I was talking to him and by the way he looked at me speaks "oooh exotic beautiful asian girl." But I thought to myself, "maybe I'm just reading into this way too much." So, I brushed it off. After he referred me to the Sprint PCS personnel, I could tell by my peripheral vision, he was still lingering around looking at me. My friend nudged me to confirm my speculation. Anyway, I don't necessarily think every Asian woman thinks they have it easy going all the time. It depends who I encounter, I suppose. When I walked into Best Buy a month ago, they gave me despiccable service. :angry: So, whether that has anything to do with ethnicity is out of my control. Personally, I don't use my ethnicity and flaunt it. Life is relative. So as an Asian American, life may be easier one moment, but other times, more challenging.



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>> upon meeting a stranger, would you treat a woman who was attractive better than one who wasnt?
while i would love to say otherwise, to be perfectly honest with you, i would probably treat an attractive woman better. but it won't be because of conscious effort. what i mean is that attractive women will undoubtably affect my thinking by virtue of them being attractive. however, this is not to say that i am a jerk to women i find unattractive. it's just that i would be lying if i said with 100% certainty that i would not subconsciously treat an attractive woman better.

this is not to say that attractive women all have it made of course. one of my ex-girlfriends was absolutely beautiful, but she could not handle all the attention (which was usually unwanted) that was given to her. on the other hand, it made her even more insecure. it made her think that people only appreciate her for her looks. while she didn't like that, mentally she was also trapped by that.

there had been studies on the relationship between beauty and self-esteem. the study found that they relate like a bell curve. the most confident people were the average looking people, while the very attractive people and the very unattractive people were less confident in themselves.

but still, i think attractive women have it better than unattractive women.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:03 PM
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but still, i think attractive women have it better than unattractive women.
Well, it depends if attractive women have it "better" than unattractive women. Analogous to this bell-curve phenomenon, it's possible that attractive women (however you define it) may not have it better in terms of the respect they deserve for their intelligence and/or personality. "Average" women may have the most respect, and the most "unattractive" women may also be underestimated in terms of intelligence/personality. So, really, how we determine what's attractive and how we react to our perceptions of attractiveness is relative. Therefore, whether one has it "better" than another person may very well be contigent to our schema of beauty and its relation to intelligence.



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Would I flaunt my good looks to my advantage? Damn straight I would!

Uh, that is if I had good looks to flaunt. :blink:
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Wellz, i was considered not so attractive in high school. It was difficult in terms of not measuring up with the rest of the girls... and feeling very unwanted when it came to the guys... But i remember when it came to my high school prom... i actually wore a dress, make up, nice shoes and what not... And i remember that night... There were some ppl that were just totally surprised to see me all decked out like that... is that really you?? And me, this is what i've learned... i receive far greater attention from ppl when i'm looking at my best as opposed when i'm looking average with no make up, wearing my hair in a bun and just wearing jeans and a tshirt.
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Old 08-16-2002, 11:34 PM
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Wellz, i was considered not so attractive in high school. It was difficult in terms of not measuring up with the rest of the girls... and feeling very unwanted when it came to the guys... But i remember when it came to my high school prom... i actually wore a dress, make up, nice shoes and what not... And i remember that night... There were some ppl that were just totally surprised to see me all decked out like that... is that really you?? And me, this is what i've learned... i receive far greater attention from ppl when i'm looking at my best as opposed when i'm looking average with no make up, wearing my hair in a bun and just wearing jeans and a tshirt.
I would rather want a guy who liked me as an "average" person rather than spending all that time getting all decked out for an occassion and finally being noticed. Even though a first impression is important, I'd rather be noticed as an average person rather than someone who doesn't consistently look all "decked out." per se. I tend to think our looks deviate or fluctuate from our average looks anyway. One moment, we look like crap. The other moment we look glamourous. And most of the days, we look like any other common folk out there who may not really stand out from the crowd. Either crappy or glamourous, it's inevitable that more attention (whether positive/negative) occurs. I think people who get all souped up with their looks or boast themselves may very well have a better chance of attracting more mates,... Does Natural Selection ring a bell? :huh: But as human beings with intrinsic capacities, the quality rather than the quantity of relationships should also be taken into consideration. In other words, even if someone thinks I'm attractive on a day I'm decked out, I don't necessarily like him enough until he accepts me for being "normal" or "crappy"-looking. When I say I crappy, I don't mean when someone looks consistently crappy or have a lack of hygeine. I mean someone who's ill, angry, or sad.



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Well, we aren't really talking about using your looks to LAND a man. Just to get ahead a little bit. Why wouldn't you appreciate a little attention every now and then?
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Because it's in my personality to have a tendency towards anonymity. I don't like to be noticed physically nor caught in the spot light in a public place. I only like to be in the spot light when I'm comfortable and prepared. For instance, I've conducted and participated in numerous meetings without regard to what other people are thinking in the top of their heads. I don't think attention is a bad thing necessarily, but I don't like to rely on that to measure how I feel about myself entirely. I'd rather be noticed in the end for my personality, contribution, and my intelligence rather than my looks because our youth too shall pass while the other faculties remain. :)



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there's this saying... "girls who think that they're intelligent want to be thought of as beautiful. girls who think that they're beautiful want to be thought of as intelligent."

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On occasion, the thought that cute people (of any ethnicity) have it easier in life has crossed my mind (damn them <_< ).....but I never thought Asian had anything to do with it specifically. However, it (the "exotic"/attention factor) may also depend on where you are (-->the volume of Asians present).

I think that most women looking lost in automotive store would get assistance - not just Asian females. I find that being nice/friendly usually gets me the best service - which I like to think is independent of my being an Asian female.

If I had good looks to flaunt, I wouldn't see a problem using them (but for good and not evil :) ). I don't actually believe they'll get you _that_ far on their own anyway, but may provide an advantage for the little things.
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there's this saying... &nbsp;"girls who think that they're intelligent want to be thought of as beautiful. &nbsp;girls who think that they're beautiful want to be thought of as intelligent."

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I think women want everything. Well, I actually think that most girls/women would like to be perceived as both, so if they think they've already got one down, then of course they want the other. It's human nature to always want more...
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>> there's a lot of truth to that saying. who wouldnt want to be thought of as "having it all". beauty and brains...what more could you want? aside from supernatural sex skills...kidding...kidding...

>> i really worry when it comes to first impressions. if i get all decked out and whatnot and look my best that day...are they going to be disappointed when they see me some other day looking like i normally do? with this in mind id wonder whether i should dress down so when im dressed normally ill look better....ok rambling...ya'll get my point.

>> artsyfartsyjanet: your posts never cease to make a lightbulb appear over my head haha...and i agree...id much rather be remembered for a sparkling personality than for looking good in a tube top and a miniskirt.

>> so when judging a person purely on how they look...do you tend to think that attractive girls are more caught up in themselves, more self-centered...confident...etc.? and for the less attractive ones...do you think they tend to live in a pretty girl's shadow?



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