Your experiences with sexism with Asian men

[sandra]

Originally Posted by ric 3

Thank you kasia

women should try to blame themselves instead of scapegoating men in mans world.

that's not what i said. i believe it is more of an unfortunate state of affairs - that both sides are responsible for.

[ellsworth81]

Originally Posted by rice cracker

Guys, I don't think the term "free will" was used to imply that women can do whatever they want, without regards to logic or nature. More like free will to have the same liberties and opportunities as men. At least, that's what it looked like to me.

i wasn't looking at it that broadly. more like, within the scope of being able to freely pick and choose your mate

[rice cracker]

Originally Posted by ellsworth81

i wasn't looking at it that broadly. more like, within the scope of being able to freely pick and choose your mate

Oh, me too then :D

Note: my above post does not apply to everybody :)

[AngryABCGirl]

Some of my older male relatives are very chauvanistic. They don't like me because I won't respect to the ridiculous amount of authority the think they have over me.

[coagulated fat]

Originally Posted by ric 3

HMMMMM. free will? we really have that or is that external influences are just manifestion itself to allow you merely have a perception of having freewill

Holy mother of crap, listen to yourself!

[SunWuKong]

Originally Posted by d-boy

i dont like this thread.

do you believe Asian men are more sexist than men in general?
say Black men or Latino men or Arab men?
most AA men i know go out of their way to be extra-polite to women.
what utter tripe.

i'm from Asia and i definitely think men in Asia are more sexist than men in America. there's reason to believe that at least some of that carried over to Asian American men, unless they are very Americanised.

but then again, i think women in Asia are also more sexist than women in America. you have no idea how many female friends i know in HK who want to stop working when they get married. people in Asia just have concepts of gender roles that are more clearly defined.

[Cipherous]

from what I see, the only way Asian women can get respect is how Asian guys get respect...by rising into power and money.

Since power and money for the most part is controlled by men, its highly unlikely that Women can take the positions of those men.

[moJo]

Originally Posted by Cipherous

Please share your experiences,

although not many people would want to air their dirty laundry out, I believe the best way to solve a problem is to talk about it.

I see this all the time, Asian guys referring to Asian women as our women and calling her a sell out if she dates a White guy.

What are some of your gripes and experiences with sexism of Asian men.

Also, for the Asian men reading this thread please keep in mind that when I say "Asian men", I am not saying all Asian men per se just the Asian men who has perpetuated the stereotype of being a wife beater and what not.

Asian men or Asian American men? Asian American men - I don't see them exihibiting sexism any different than other [insert race]-American men. In real life, that is. On internet forums, it's a whole different story. Asian men - i don't know any other than older family members, and even then, I don't see them exhibit much (if any) sexism.

[kitty]

Originally Posted by moJo

Asian men or Asian American men? Asian American men - I don't see them exihibiting sexism any different than other [insert race]-American men. In real life, that is. On internet forums, it's a whole different story. Asian men - i don't know any other than older family members, and even then, I don't see them exhibit much (if any) sexism.

Asian American men are originated from the Asian culture. I guess the question really is -- is the Asian culture any more/less/equally sexist as any other culture?

[ric 3]

Originally Posted by kasia

that's not what i said. i believe it is more of an unfortunate state of affairs - that both sides are responsible for.

well do hear women complain mor eabout being a woman than guys complaining about being a man. women do buy into their gender roles and ideals of beauty more so than men. YES, men do have these same things but its not as much or as diverse as women have

[ric 3]

Originally Posted by rice cracker

Guys, I don't think the term "free will" was used to imply that women can do whatever they want, without regards to logic or nature. More like free will to have the same liberties and opportunities as men. At least, that's what it looked like to me.

well yea, but are those really our choices we are making or is it someone elses?

[kitty]

Originally Posted by ric 3

well do hear women complain mor eabout being a woman than guys complaining about being a man. women do buy into their gender roles and ideals of beauty more so than men. YES, men do have these same things but its not as much or as diverse as women have

I'm sorry... maybe i'm not understanding, but are you arguing that it's the woman's fault for 'buying into their gender roles and ideals of beauty'? You know these are the same gender roles and beauty myths that are placed upon women by this male-dominated, male-empowered society.

[kitty]

Originally Posted by ric 3

HMMMMM. free will? we really have that or is that external influences are just manifestion itself to allow you merely have a perception of having freewill

you know... free will as in a woman's ability to make choices outside of what culture or society wants of her? the choice to rebel? The same free will that men take for granted. I didn't think this was such an ambiguous term in this context.

[applehead]

Originally Posted by ric 3

well yea, but are those really our choices we are making or is it someone elses?

uuuuuuh.
ours.
if we're making our choices, like you said.
then who is making our choices.
us.

i don't get your question.

[ric 3]

Originally Posted by kittygirl

I'm sorry... maybe i'm not understanding, but are you arguing that it's the woman's fault for 'buying into their gender roles and ideals of beauty'? You know these are the same gender roles and beauty myths that are placed upon women by this male-dominated, male-empowered society.

why do you follow them if they are so unfair then? if you have FREEWILL why not say screw it , I define myself.