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In China, blame for the USC victims

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In China, blame for the USC victims
Hateful comments toward two Chinese graduate students killed near the campus spotlight the growing divide between haves and have-nots in China.
April 26, 2012|By Mei Fong

After USC graduate students Ming Qu and Ying Wu were shot and killed earlier this month, the Chinese student community in America was saddened, shocked and frightened.

The reaction back home was very different. The killings, which happened while Qu and Wu were sitting and talking in a BMW, unleashed a torrent of Internet vitriol in China, and it wasn't directed at the pair's attacker.

A comment on the popular site 163.com was typical: "Studying in America, driving BMW, a male and a female, let them die."

Never mind that the BMW was a secondhand model and not the $60,000 luxury model the Associated Press erroneously reported initially. Or that Qu and Wu were not especially rich or well connected: Qu's father is a manager at an insurance company, his mother a teacher. Wu's father is a police investigator and her mother a retired textile worker.

Another commenter on 163.com posted this: "We should think about why a lot of families, even the poor ones, spend a lot to send their children abroad. This is meaningless. Studying abroad only contributes to American GDP…. Stop cheating us."

The malevolence this tragedy generated grows out of deep divisions within China. The chasm between haves and have-nots is growing ever wider, and with it has come resentment that extends to the approximately 160,000 students a year — enough to populate three schools the size of UCLA — who elect to study in the United States.

Disdain for American-educated students has come only recently. During China's economic expansion in the 1980s, students educated abroad were feted and valued for the skills and knowledge they acquired, which were then scarce in China. The students were dubbed hai gui, or "sea turtles," as opposed to "land tortoises," the term for those who stayed home to get their education.

Now, thanks to a vast expansion of the higher education system, China is awash in domestically educated college graduates. And increasingly, employers in China see graduates returning from the United States as problematic hires with unrealistic salary expectations. They don't even come back with the same kind of English skills they used to because there are now so many Chinese students on U.S. campuses that they can socialize almost exclusively among themselves.

The result has been a new term to describe returning students who can't find work — hai dai, or "seaweed."

Having come from abroad to study in the United States myself (as a Malaysian citizen), I have great sympathy for the difficulty foreign students face trying to chase their dreams in an alien country.

Most Chinese graduate students come to the United States straight from college, with little or no work experience. They have usually been far more sheltered than American students of the same age. Most of those who make it to the United States to study have spent their childhoods cramming, always pointed toward the nationwide gao kao university entrance exam, a test so important that construction work is stopped, traffic diverted and parents take work leave to coddle or bully their kids through the ordeal. (Some parents have even been known to put their daughters on birth control pills so they won't be distracted with menstrual cramps during the test.)

Even the most media-savvy Chinese students have a touching naivete about what it means to study in America. A few years ago, one of the sharpest and smartest researchers at the Beijing Wall Street Journal bureau won a full scholarship to Columbia. I warned her to expect bad cellphone reception and rats and urine on the subway. She was incredulous, disbelieving. To her, America meant lattes and luxury cars.

Most Chinese students I've worked with as a lecturer in USC's Annenberg School or interviewed as a reporter have hoped to work in the United States for a few years after graduation. Many no longer succeed in that goal. The U.S. job market is brutal, and attitudes and stereotyping compound the problem.

In this clash of cultures, it is helpful to remember America's historical openness to China scholars, and the dividends it has paid. More than a century ago, the Boxer Rebellion led to the U.S. government sponsoring the first group of Chinese scholars to attend U.S. colleges. This first wave returned home to build China's railroads and steamships, won at least one Nobel Prize and helped to build Tsinghua University, China's equivalent of MIT. The first wave of sea turtles following China's economic opening in the 1980s — people such as Charles Zhang, founder of Sohu, and Robin Li, founder of Baidu — built China's Internet and helped open up the nation's information pathways.

So what about this generation, this seaweed tide?

Unlike the earlier generations of China scholars, they are not just majoring in the hard sciences. They are in creative writing programs, in art schools, even in journalism, despite media restrictions back home.

This is no small thing. Even as many Americans make the mistake of viewing China as a monolithic superpower, the Chinese, too, tend toward one-sided views of America. America the imperialist oppressor; America the violent. It's a view that Qu's and Wu's tragedy unfortunately reinforces.

But there is also another dimension to the Chinese view of America. It is a country many admire as a place of hope and possibilities and opportunity, the land that created Steve Jobs and Jeremy Lin. This is the America that draws ever-growing numbers of Chinese students, who then take home a view of the United States that refutes the stereotypes.

Such an exercise of informal diplomacy on a grand scale cannot help but change U.S.-China relations. It may even change the world.

Mei Fong, formerly a China correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, is now a lecturer at USC's Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism.


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Re: In China, blame for the USC victims

Mei Fong is looking at American history through rose color lenses -- It is not an American stereotype but the truth: (1) American society is more violent and has more violent crime than Chinese or Japanese Society. (2) Since 1800s, in its international affairs the USA has been prone to using gunboat diplomacy. (3) before 1970s there were not that many Chinese foriegn scholars/students in the US ( and between 1959 to 1972 - there were none). It also pays to remember that the USA was one of the western powers along with the Great Britian to divide China into multiple neo-colonial regions (known as China's the Open Door Policy ) which lead to the Boxer Rebellion (which the USA, Great Britian, France, Germany, and Japan promptly dispatched). Within its borders the USA has a long history of anti-Chinese violence and racial discrimination, too.

Most foreign students hope to make money in an *open* labor market and are not restricting themselves to returning to china or staying in the USA. What's more important to (foriegn) graduates is getting relevant and appropiate work experience in one's field whether in the USA, China, or elsewhere. Currently 1 in 2 College graduates in America are unemployed. The value of a college education in the USA has diminshed in value escecially after the Global Recession. The gap between rich and poor is even wider in the USA than in China. After all that time in school - do these schools really prepare their graduates for the real world? Employers are asking what do these newly minted college graduates bring to my workplace? Are US colleges still a good value or not to students?
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Re: In China, blame for the USC victims

Thousands of jobs went to China from the U.S. and these muppets are worried about students "stealing" from China to go study in the U.S.? Sad.
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