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Lynn Swann, governor?
The Swann move would appear to bear the fingerprints of Karl Rove. When Rove hitched his consultant's wagon to George W. Bush he knew that the Texan had solid name identification in coming from one of America's two leading political dynastic families, the other being the Kennedys, which Schwarzenegger married into.
Swann has delivered that same tired line that the Rove-Bush team has exhausted. He declares that the Democratic Party has been taking African Americans for granted. What Swann and the Republicans do not wish to hear is why African Americans vote against them in such large numbers. Lynn Swann Candidacy Reminscent of Schwarzenegger QUOTE:
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Chottamatte,
I don't know where you get your sources from, but I would be more willing to believe them if they were more fair and balanced than this example. Its a trobuling trend in America where it seems more and more people are turning to sources that merely confirm their beliefs, instead of challenging them. We're seeing that with FoxNews, and how it panders to the Right. The Governator has made many mistakes as Governor. But, its simply parinoid and ludicrous to make the accusation that Karl Rove controls Arnold S. Arnold S. is a different type of republican than Geore Bush, with a different agenda than Bush. As for Lynn Swan, it would probably have been more helpful if he had played for Phil Eagles rather than Pittsburg Steelers. Philly is the biggest city, with the most voters, in Penn. Swan doesn't necessairly need to win Philly, but he has do well enough where he doesn't get blown away by Philly votes that would overwhelm his support from other parts of the state. And, since Pittsburg Steelers are the rivals for Phil Eagles, I don't see how well his football career would help him with Philly voters. |
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
helplesshobo,
I don't know what you mean by "where I get my sources", since I posted something that seemed valid in at least indicating that Lynn Swann was indeed running for a governorship. http://www.swannforgovernor.com/ As for whether he's a crackpot like Arnie, I think only the press on him in the coming months will tell. I think you maybe reacting to the article indicating that a Karl Rove like effort is out to promote him. And yes, I would believe that. Lynn's got name recognition. Some of his republican allies believe that -- http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...06dnews-01.asp And since he's got those ill-fated conservative beliefs, so much the better for them. And according to this article, he's got a good chance of getting the republican spot over some dude named Scranton. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...governor_x.htm The question is, even if he does win the top repub spot, does he have enough to beat the current governor, Ed Rendell? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005...ember%2012.htm We'll see. But as far as the Rove like effort to push him into the Penn gov seat, the shit-talking against he potential dem counterpart starts here -- www .swannblog .com
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Chottamatte,
Its a disappointment that you are stooping to the level of Martino with the name calling, especially since that same poster mocked and ridiculed your previous posts before. The article you posted was simply more than something that indicated Swann was going to run for governor. I wouldn't have disagreed if the article's thrust was that Swann's personal popularity was driving his campaign. Instead, what I'm questioning about the original article as how it seems that the writer had an agenda beyond simply reporting Swann was going to run for governor. The article seemed more of an attack on the Republican Party and George Bush rather than about Swann. I also think that the writer is way off when he writes that Rove wants Swann because he views Swann as a submissive candidate that he can control, just like Rove has supposedly controlled Arnold. As I pointed out, Arnold has different agenda than Bush, and is more liberal on social issuses. How exactly is Arnold being controlled and manipulated? I don't disagree that Swann will get support from the Republican Party, just like Arnold got support too. But, they weren't getting this support simply because they could be manipulated by somebody like Rove. Instead, they represented the best shot for the Republican Party to win in a primarily Democratic state. If Ben Affleck is the best chance for the Democratic Party to win Virginia, then they'll support him just like they would back somebody more anonymous if that person is their best bet of victory. To me, that article was a partisan article, with no attempt at being balanced or reflective. This is what I mean when I questioned your sources. I see this as part of a larger, more trobuling trend in America where it seems people are increasingly turning to sources that only confirm their own views, instead of challenging them. |
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Dear HelplessHobo,
It seems you have a problem with screen names, as well, even when they are spelled right-there in front of your face. You've done it twice, sweety. I think Martino may have realized something about the previous poster and her attempts at mockery and redicule that I had failed to realize until recently -- namely that said poster spends most of her time on this board being argumentative -- if nothing else -- coming from the arrogant stand point of having the truth tucked inside her pocket. You have a keen eye in realizing that the writer of the article has a particular bent when it comes to Swann's potential governorship. That being said, what is wrong with him having an opinion? It certainly makes for more interesting look at Swann than a simple byline of facts. The opinions are already out there -- left and right. You find the "right" one, since you are dearly looking for balance. Chances are -- you will find one that fits with your own political views.
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Chottomatte,
Sorry about misspelling your name, but I wasn't doing it just for the sake of namecalling. I'm not a good speller. I was actually commenting how Martino had mocked your posts before, and that why would you want to follow the same tack as somebody like that. I'm simply pointing that the original article was coming from such a extremist point of view that I tended to write off most of the things in it as it corrupted all the analysis in the article. And, that its dangerous when people only read partisan articles like that no matter if the articles are skewed to the far right or far left. I think its trobuling when people on the right only watch FOXNews or listein to Rush Limbaughbecause they think all the other media is tilted to the left, just like I think its trobuling when people on the left tend to get their news from partisan left articles like this. It tends to become an echo chamber of groupthink. I don't want to read something merely because I agree with it. I want to read something that is well written, with interesting ideas. I don't understand why balanced and truly analytical is now considered to be something wrong. It didn't have to be a simple byline of the facts. It could have been a analytical piece from somebody like Ronald Brownstein, who is probably more to the left and center than right, which would have examined and analyzed the issuses without the corruption of the analysis. After all, isn't every analytical piece a opinion, where the writer is interpreting the facts before him. But, one could have still analyzed Swann running for governor, without all the cheap shots that Rove only wanted Swann to run because Rove could then control Swann fromt the White House. Those cheap shots had nothing to do with any analysis, but served merely as an attack on Swann, Arnold, and Rove. |
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Swann has almost no chance of defeating the sitting Gov., Ed Rendell (D). Swann may not even make it out of the Republican primary.
Unlike in CA, Rendell is currently popular while Davis was very unpopular.
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
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And it seems the right-wing has glommed (sp?) onto this idea that he is anti-tax and pro-life, etc. http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/...s/13230353.htm He calls himself conservative and pro-life, says he's out to cut business taxes, cap government spending and ditch the property tax. But when asked how exactly he makes up for $8 billion to $9 billion the property tax provides, he says he has a plan he's "in the process of flushing out." Rendel. Maybe, unless people are feeling this way (convincing arguments, by the way): The Worst Governor in the United States QUOTE:
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Man, I forget what the earlier arguments were about here, since they were queer, but anyways Swanny was dropped by the good voters of Penn.
I guess Heath Shuler ran, too, and got elected "... for a congressional seat from North Carolina", receiving "... nearly 54 percent of the vote to defeat Republican incumbent Charles Taylor". Swann fails in bid to become Pennsylvania governor QUOTE:
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Re: Lynn Swann, governor?
Swann had no chance this year in the democratic tidalwive that swept all those Republicans out of office. I was flipping through the channels, and Rendell was being pretty complimentary about Swann. Although, its much easier to be so gracious when you've won. Rendell complimented Swann for not running a ugly campaign, where Swann could have tried to use issues like gay marriages as a wedge issue.
See, this is what I was talking about. Heath Shuler is also an ex-jock, with no political experience either. (Although, I would also disagree with the original article that Gov. S. had no political knowledge before running for office. Its been an open secret for many years that Gov. S was fascinated by politics, and always considered running. He had been involved with the Republican Party for years, back when the father Bush was president, and he helped spearhead a proposition in CA that passed. But, hey, we're not going to let facts get in the way of cheap political points) But, I'm not going to call Shluler 'submissive' or try to portray Rahm Emanuel as some shadowy puppermaster controlling him. Both political parties are going out to reach out to anybody who they think has a shot of winning. |
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