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Old 03-27-2005, 12:49 PM
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btw, a favor, sorry its kind of silly, but hoy pare can you make me an honorary filipino? im already honorary chinese..
Done. Pare, you are now honorary Filipino! You probably know about Filipino history than me.

Gumby, I'm not disagreeing that politics differ according to place. When two groups become a certain size they tend to segregate and become xenophobic. Seattle has a good size Asian and Hispanic population.

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to be honest, i doubt many Filipinos in the Philippines identifies with being Hispanic.
Well, not Hispanic but maybe Spanish. I don't know, I think to a certain degree they do, despite resentment toward the Spanish. It's not like they can deny their history and culture, but it's probably more kinship rather identification.

asvenus, well, I never said Filipinos and Latinos were perfect - in relative terms.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:27 PM
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Re: Filipino/Hispanic and Filipino/Asian relations

Some filipinos looks like their ASIANS and some looks like their HISPANIC. This is a fact in many filipinos. Like my self, I am pure filipino and I am mistaken for a chinese person. It comes within the blood line. Pure filipinos would look like either Asians or Hispanic which I think is very cool. And I dunno why some hates it but I dont !
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Re: Filipino/Hispanic and Filipino/Asian relations

You're right in that most Filipinos tend to identify as Asian-American.

However I have known some Filipinos who gravitate more to Hispanics usually Mexicans. It's Mexicans that Filipinos have the most in common with I think. Those that do are not "self hating Asians" as some might suggest. To suggest that shows an ignorance of Filipino culture and history. There are striking resemblances between Filipino culture and Latin-American cultures so it can be easy for a Filipino to assimilate among other Hispanics. Filipinos have more in common culturally with Hispanics than Japanese or Koreans. The Asians that Filipinos are most similar to are Southeast Asians - Malaysians and Indonesians...If you were to go to a typical catholic church in Los Angeles, you'll find the congregation to be largely Latinos and Filipinos. There was a study done on inter-marriages among AsianAmericans and it found that Filipinos are 3 times more likely than other Asian groups to intermarry with Latinos which is attributed to strong cultural affinities.

While most Filipinos tend to more closely identify as Asian which is perfectly fine, some Filipinos will identify more closely with Hispanics which is also perfectly fine.


Filipinos are both Asian and Hispanic.

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Well once again, perhaps it's the state in which I live or the many Filipinos I've encountered in the past and present, but I've never met one that identifies with the Hispanic label at all, and virtually all of them I've seen identify themselves as either Asian or Pacific Islander or both. There are some who talk about having some Spanish lineage or blood, but that's not nearly the same thing. Anyways, i don't really wanna get into the discussion/debate about whether Filipinos are "Asian" or "Pacific Islander"~
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probably as a result of growing up in east texas, aka hell, where there weren't many flips around, with numbers pitifully short of any sort of critical mass that could be considered a real filam community in which to live, grow, and thrive (i digress)...i don't embrace one bit whatever historical influence that spain, a foreign euro imperialist colonizer bent on ruthless exploitation of my people for the selfish gain of their own euro kind, had on my mother country.

maybe it also has to do with the fact i speak very little tagalog (with all its spanish derivations), though through no fault of my own. blame my parents for being paranoid about us not learning unaccented english, as i did (blamed) with quiet, slow burning venom through my (troubled) formative years, but when you start to learn where they came from and what deteriorating living conditions they were used to seeing in the PI, it's hard to blame them for their fear driven motivations in wanting to give their kids what they felt was one component of a best chance for success here in white america (good english "untainted" by tagalog). naive, shortsighted, and sellout, maybe, but progressively more palatable, less nauseating, as i grow older. but i digress again.

re-railing: for example, i cringe a little inside every time i hear the names of filipino foods with spanish origins. it's like a little reminder from spain of how they raped/exploited my ancestors. like opening up a little harmless fortune cookie with "fuck you haha *wink*" written in tiny print on that little slip of paper.

i block out these hispanic vestiges with as much psychological force as i can muster. but they keep popping up and damn, it's tiring. i consider myself filipino first. from the eastern side of that big supercontinent.

seeing the ugly ass spanish mestizo looking celebrities (especially the ones that look full spanish and barely asian or not asian at all) on flip magazine covers makes me fuckin puke. seeing how flips idolize them makes me want to kill a small animal.

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Old 09-13-2006, 10:06 AM
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seeing the ugly ass spanish mestizo looking celebrities (especially the ones that look full spanish and barely asian or not asian at all) on flip magazine covers makes me fuckin puke. seeing how flips idolize them makes me want to kill a small animal.
The innocent small animals never did anything wrong. It's the self-hating sellouts who white worship that should be addressed.
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