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jimbo
09-12-2003, 07:01 PM
I think I'm going to scream or go postal, One or the other.

My situation is at the age of 31 and with 14 years of work experience I feel I am on the scrapheap, And Its really bringing me down in a seriously big way.

I am beginning to lose all motivation for anything and feel that I am very much alone with nobody else to turn to, Especially in a place as unfriendly as London.

My plan to go self employed is now on hold because I can't raise enough finances to make a proper go of it.

So at present lack of funds equals lack of any social life, so its got to the stage where I am posting this at 3 a.m gmt because I just can't sleep.

Sorry to be so depressing.

Tao
09-12-2003, 07:15 PM
there there, life is tough, but you are tougher

Irezumi Kiss
09-12-2003, 07:37 PM
I'm 33 and hardly a "success" myself.

This is the way I look at shit...

If you can eat once or more everyday, shit on a clean toilet in a clean bathroom, are able to take a shower/bath whenever you want, piss without having the sensation of broken glass running thru your dick, walk with both legs, have the use of both arms and the hands attached at the ends, are able to get it up when you get horny and have some privacy to jack off when you are, and wake up to having sunlight shine through your window, then you haven't failed!

Everything else is just icing on the cake, my man! Life doesn't have to "be" anything.

Tao
09-12-2003, 07:43 PM
I'm 33 and hardly a "success" myself.

This is the way I look at shit...

If you can eat once or more everyday, shit on a clean toilet in a clean bathroom, are able to take a shower/bath whenever you want, piss without having the sensation of broken glass running thru your dick, walk with both legs, have the use of both arms and the hands attached at the ends, are able to get it up when you get horny and have some privacy to jack off when you are, and wake up to having sunlight shine through your window, then you haven't failed!

Everything else is just icing on the cake, my man! Life doesn't have to "be" anything.

man, you are from the east village!

jimbo
09-12-2003, 07:49 PM
I'm 33 and hardly a "success" myself.

This is the way I look at shit...

If you can eat once or more everyday, shit on a clean toilet in a clean bathroom, are able to take a shower/bath whenever you want, piss without having the sensation of broken glass running thru your dick, walk with both legs, have the use of both arms and the hands attached at the ends, are able to get it up when you get horny and have some privacy to jack off when you are, and wake up to having sunlight shine through your window, then you haven't failed!

Everything else is just icing on the cake, my man! Life doesn't have to "be" anything.

I see where you're coming from, But as in a typical chinese family I'm always being compared to my cousins etc, They run a successful business have 2 properties are married with kids etc etc, whereas I don't have any of that.

I'm pretty much told that I'm a failure by my mum and that who is going to have you as you are etc.

Everybody else in the family and my so called friends seem to rely on me when in their hour of need, But I have nobody to turn to.

soupdragon
09-12-2003, 09:41 PM
hey cheer up! :beerchug:

You seem to want to be emotionally too independent..call your friends up and i'm sure they'll comfort you as you did for them..

SunWuKong
09-12-2003, 09:51 PM
you can always be FILTH.

Failed In London, Try Hongkong.

mrazntre
09-13-2003, 09:51 AM
i feel as you do..

ism
09-13-2003, 01:37 PM
A lot of us are hurting. My situation's pretty shitty and I've felt desperation and depression. It's kinda tough to get rid of the mentality that we're supposed to be somebody at a certain age, and with your parents reminding you all the time, yeah it sucks. It's like... they're criticizing you to try and motivate you to improve the situation, but it just makes you feel worse. I gave up trying to talk to the rents about it a long time ago. Fortunately, there are friends I can talk to, and it seems you do too. I'm sure they'd be willing to lend an ear.

golden_buns
09-14-2003, 06:23 PM
I think I'm going to scream or go postal, One or the other.

My situation is at the age of 31 and with 14 years of work experience I feel I am on the scrapheap, And Its really bringing me down in a seriously big way.

I am beginning to lose all motivation for anything and feel that I am very much alone with nobody else to turn to, Especially in a place as unfriendly as London.

My plan to go self employed is now on hold because I can't raise enough finances to make a proper go of it.

So at present lack of funds equals lack of any social life, so its got to the stage where I am posting this at 3 a.m gmt because I just can't sleep.

Sorry to be so depressing.

Have you thought about moving to another country for a change? I felt that way while I was in Austin, mainly cuz the economy was shitty and no one was hiring, so I've been traveling around. Trust me every time you get to a new place you're so busy setting up everything and looking for a job that you don't have time to get bored or depressed.

I suggest you come to asia. Don't worry if you can't find a job immediately, you can always make good money teaching english while you find something good.
That's pretty much my 2 cents.

Good luck

Faithless
09-15-2003, 12:18 AM
I think I'm going to scream or go postal, One or the other.

My situation is at the age of 31 and with 14 years of work experience I feel I am on the scrapheap, And Its really bringing me down in a seriously big way.

I am beginning to lose all motivation for anything and feel that I am very much alone with nobody else to turn to, Especially in a place as unfriendly as London.

My plan to go self employed is now on hold because I can't raise enough finances to make a proper go of it.

So at present lack of funds equals lack of any social life, so its got to the stage where I am posting this at 3 a.m gmt because I just can't sleep.

Sorry to be so depressing.

Depending upon what you are doing, you can try a totally different career. Maybe that's what you need the capital for? How about a partnership with a friend or two?

SunWuKong
09-15-2003, 12:43 AM
so you don't like London? you want to trade? i live in DC. US capital for UK capital? i've never lived in London before and would love to try.

punkdrummer56
09-15-2003, 02:39 AM
i'm 21. i feel young and naive. but to totally just ignore what you guys are saying... i have a lotta love for london, but i don't know how long i'd want to live there for.
i'm graduating from college this may; any words of advice? (sorry if this is off topic)

ellsworth81
09-15-2003, 06:56 AM
I kind of liked London for the week I was there. It's a happening place, though rather expensive. How is it unfriendly?

Why do you need money to have a social life? Friends are the cheapest source of entertainment out there. Stick to your buds and things might smooth out. (except for $2 crack whores, but that's a different story). And if you don't like your current job, move into something else. Try not to get complacent, and more importantly, don't buy too many durable goods (car, electronics, etc) Those things can hold you down...

ellsworth81
09-15-2003, 06:58 AM
i'm 21. i feel young and naive. but to totally just ignore what you guys are saying... i have a lotta love for london, but i don't know how long i'd want to live there for.
i'm graduating from college this may; any words of advice? (sorry if this is off topic)


advice: find out what you want to do. what you could see yourself doing everyday for the rest of your life comfortably. preferabbly something that is beneficial to society, but that's askin' too much :mellow: once you get that figured out, things will fall into place.

Emperor_Mike
09-15-2003, 11:02 AM
What is it with Asian parents and their obsession with cookie-cutter definitions of success anyway? There are many ways to measure it and money is only a part of the equation.

Having said that, my parents are like that too. Well...my father is at any rate. He wants an exceptional son who can make millions and my mother wants me to be content with life and not be too ambitious. Sometimes the conflicting interests gets pretty confusing. :confused:

Pookie_gal
09-16-2003, 06:34 AM
Was drawn to this 'cos I recognised a fellow Londoner.

I think what Jimbo is getting at is that London can be a very lonely city - despite there being loads of people, and plenty of Chinese at that, Londoners tend to stick to themselves especially while commuting to and from work.

I understand what you mean about feeling like a failure but hey, things aren't all that bad! If you want a social life, you have to spend money - if you don't want to spend too much, then you end up just staying at home or not doing anything worthwhile. Things can be expensive and even a night out can set you back £50 easily.

But I'm sure you have plenty of friends who will listen to your problems as you have listened to them, and your family will support you 'cos that's what they are there for. Don't worry about being 31 and not achieving what you wanted - goals change all the time, life changes all the time. What matters is that you make the most of what you have and live life to the full - do what makes you happy and what makes you smile. So that if anything happened tomorrow, you can look back and say, "I did it for myself."

jimbo
09-16-2003, 06:35 AM
I kind of liked London for the week I was there. It's a happening place, though rather expensive. How is it unfriendly?

Why do you need money to have a social life? Friends are the cheapest source of entertainment out there. Stick to your buds and things might smooth out. (except for $2 crack whores, but that's a different story). And if you don't like your current job, move into something else.

London is unfriendly in the sense that it is very difficult to meet new people and a lot of people are very unapproachable.

The main problem is with London is that the vast majority of us are dotted all over the place and therefore the logistics in arranging to meet up can be a total nightmare.

I'm not currently working because of the current economic climate and I don't see it getting any better hence my desire to quit London and move as and when I secure the funds required to start up my new business.

I'm looking at leaving the country and hope to be flying out to h.k in the next week or so and see how things develop from there.

ellsworth81
09-16-2003, 08:22 AM
London is unfriendly in the sense that it is very difficult to meet new people and a lot of people are very unapproachable.

The main problem is with London is that the vast majority of us are dotted all over the place and therefore the logistics in arranging to meet up can be a total nightmare.

I'm not currently working because of the current economic climate and I don't see it getting any better hence my desire to quit London and move as and when I secure the funds required to start up my new business.

I'm looking at leaving the country and hope to be flying out to h.k in the next week or so and see how things develop from there.

i'm no expert when it comes to HK, but i hear job situation there is pretty shitty as well. maybe someone can confirm this?

not to dismiss your comment, but what specific places are there on this planet where it is easy to meet to new ppl?

SunWuKong
09-16-2003, 09:14 AM
i'm no expert when it comes to HK, but i hear job situation there is pretty shitty as well. maybe someone can confirm this?

not to dismiss your comment, but what specific places are there on this planet where it is easy to meet to new ppl?

yeah the job situation in HK is pretty shitty. but native English speakers may have a niche.

jimbo
09-16-2003, 12:32 PM
I'll be working for myself so theres not really an issue with the current job climate, As regards to meeting new people I have a lot of new contacts in h.k so thats not a problem, I just feel that london is a very lonely place at times.