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applehead
09-08-2003, 06:07 PM
what do most gay people think of bisexuals?
i'm straight but to me,
bisexuals are just confused.
not confused but
just, not sure.
are all bisexuals just experimenting.
or are there "bisexual bisexuals"??
sorry. this question isn't the most
well worded.
chris!
you know what i mean.
i hope...
Chris
09-08-2003, 06:43 PM
I know what you mean meena. :)
I like to think that I am a gay guy with bisexual tendencies. But yeah. People out there just "choose" to be bisexual for the hip factor. Why I don't know.
YuheiCarreau
09-08-2003, 06:46 PM
All the bisexuals I know are annoying. They're either straight girls who wanna be rebellious, or sexually confused guys who would better be described by the word 'slutty' than 'straight' or 'gay'. Plus I hate that little speech in Chasing Amy where the girl says she's a bisexual because she doesn't want to cut her options in half... Like those of us who are only attracted to one gender are just too dumb to do the math or something.
Deadpool
09-08-2003, 06:49 PM
People have told me a lot Homosexuals do not think very highly of Bisexuals. I think they think of them as tourists.
Emperor_Mike
09-08-2003, 08:29 PM
People have told me a lot Homosexuals do not think very highly of Bisexuals. I think they think of them as tourists.
A friend of mine accuses bisexuals of wanting to have their cake and eat it too, whatever that means.
YuheiCarreau
09-08-2003, 09:04 PM
A friend of mine accuses bisexuals of wanting to have their cake and eat it too, whatever that means.
Basically it means wanting to do two things that are mutually exclusive of each other. You probably would have understood your friend better if he had said the expression correctly - it's "eat your cake and have it too", not the other way around...
sdcheung
09-09-2003, 08:22 PM
LOL.
I like Bisexual girls.
they can bring their Bisexual friends to me any day.
3-some ...
Fireblade
09-10-2003, 11:01 AM
Personally I think you can be attracted to both sexes. Being bisexual doesn't mean limiting your options, or being confused. If you are attracted to a man, then so be it. If you are attracted to a woman, so be it. If you're attracted to both, that happens too. There are so many varibles in human sexuality nowadays, that you can't just pigeonhole bisexuals and say that they're just going through a phase or try to construct that they're one or the other. Besides, this all comes down to attraction right?
thus far, i agree with fireblade the most...
i see it as a spectrum:
gay/lesbian------bisexual------straight
one can fall anywhere in this spectrum. i think most bisexuals get a bad rap because they aren't always 100%. or the most part, they might lean one way or another.
bisexual girls who lean mostly to men, but do have their moments of being attracted to women, are judged to be 'confused' or 'rebellious' or 'attention seekers' or 'easy', etc. the worst is when a guy just automatically ASSUMES (at least in my case) that the bisexual woman is into 3-somes - it's that lack of sensitivity which has hurt my feelings, to be honest.
but sure... there are some people out there doing it just because it's a trend. and yes, they give other bisexuals a bad name.
the problem is that too many people focus on labels. and i think there lies most of the problem.
personally, all i can say is that even though i've never had a relationship with a woman (other then just physical), i have known about my attraction to other women since i've been a teen. and even now, i still do fantasize about other women, and check out some that walk by me... even though i'm in a relationship with man.
i am tired of labeling myself... because whenever i do, it always comes with a set of explanations... because ever person is so different, bisexual or not.
nicedream
09-11-2003, 10:08 AM
if you can truly love a person for who they are without worrying what sex they are, you are a better person for it.
YuheiCarreau
09-11-2003, 03:13 PM
if you can truly love a person for who they are without worrying what sex they are, you are a better person for it.
See... That's what I'm talking about. Comments like these seem positive on the surface, but if you follow the logic of the statement "you are a better person for being bi" then it leads to "you are a close-minded person for being straight or gay". Maybe I'm just playing the oversensitive straight guy, I know most people don't care, but those kinds of superior statements are what irks me about the bisexuals I know (no personal offense intended, nicedream).
frcegrl
09-11-2003, 04:55 PM
thus far, i agree with fireblade the most...
i see it as a spectrum:
gay/lesbian------bisexual------straight
one can fall anywhere in this spectrum. i think most bisexuals get a bad rap because they aren't always 100%. or the most part, they might lean one way or another.
bisexual girls who lean mostly to men, but do have their moments of being attracted to women, are judged to be 'confused' or 'rebellious' or 'attention seekers' or 'easy', etc. the worst is when a guy just automatically ASSUMES (at least in my case) that the bisexual woman is into 3-somes - it's that lack of sensitivity which has hurt my feelings, to be honest.
but sure... there are some people out there doing it just because it's a trend. and yes, they give other bisexuals a bad name.
the problem is that too many people focus on labels. and i think there lies most of the problem.
personally, all i can say is that even though i've never had a relationship with a woman (other then just physical), i have known about my attraction to other women since i've been a teen. and even now, i still do fantasize about other women, and check out some that walk by me... even though i'm in a relationship with man.
i am tired of labeling myself... because whenever i do, it always comes with a set of explanations... because ever person is so different, bisexual or not.
i like the way you put things, shy. labels just locks us into boxes that don't necessarily define us as individuals. the lesbian community does not like bisexuals. i've been told over and over to NOT go for bi-girls. but i think it's more an insecurity issue on the part of lesbians. a girl can be gay but not be able to handle society's pressures. so what if bisexuals enjoy both? i was attracted to men, i'd prolly date them too! to me, it's an open forum. i will date gay, bi or even straight or anything in between. personally, i don't like how the gay/lesbian community has tried to shut out the bisexuals, transgender etc...
See... That's what I'm talking about. Comments like these seem positive on the surface, but if you follow the logic of the statement "you are a better person for being bi" then it leads to "you are a close-minded person for being straight or gay". Maybe I'm just playing the oversensitive straight guy, I know most people don't care, but those kinds of superior statements are what irks me about the bisexuals I know (no personal offense intended, nicedream).
i see where you are coming from... nicedream probably intended well from what heshe said, but i can see how that would make judgement calls on those who are straight. and there's nothing wrong w/ that either.
i guess it's better to say that one would be a better person for not judging some one else for who they love based on the sex of the person that they love.
no... you are not close-minded because you are a straight man.
i like the way you put things, shy. labels just locks us into boxes that don't necessarily define us as individuals. the lesbian community does not like bisexuals. i've been told over and over to NOT go for bi-girls. but i think it's more an insecurity issue on the part of lesbians.
thanks frcegrl...
yeah, it's too bad that there's a division between some of the lesbians and some of the bisexuals.
really, in the end of the day, if a lesbian finds a bisexual that will give her love and commitment, it really shouldn't matter if said person is bisexual or not.
a commitment is a commitment...
i have dated guys who've been insecure about me being attracted to other women. which is weird, because while we were in a relationship, i was always loyal to them. i always am loyal to the one i'm committed to. i strongly am devoted to monogamy.
Irezumi Kiss
09-12-2003, 09:43 PM
Shy...what if...
...you wanted to have the occasional sex romp with a woman while keeping the relationship with the man IF it were alright with him?
Would you indulge or does that offend your convictions?
Shy...what if...
...you wanted to have the occasional sex romp with a woman while keeping the relationship with the man IF it were alright with him?
Would you indulge or does that offend your convictions?
tough question...
when i was a lot younger, while i was with my 2nd serious relationship, my then bf 'encouraged' me to explore my sexual interest w/ other women. it took awhile for me to think about it... i was young and inexperienced then.
i believed my bf was being supportive. so at one very wild party, i went into the hostess' room to fool around with her. i ended up stopping it though because i felt really guilty. she was good about it... and understood. plus it was my first real time w/ another woman so i was somewhat nervous.
afterwards, my then bf suggested we do something together with her... a threesome. i explained that i wasn't comfortable with that... to be honest, seeing him w/ another woman would have really made me jealous. just as seeing me w/ another man would have made him jealous.
he got really upset saying that what i did, then, was unfair. that if if i'm to have any sexual relations w/ another woman, it should involve him because he is my bf.
it was very frustrating as i tried to explain to him that i didn't think his 'supportiveness' into this realm was just so he could work his way into getting some action...
anyway, that was the only time i was 'encouraged' to explore that side of me. i know he can't represent 'all men' but if it had happened again w/ some one else, i think i would have been more leery. i learned a lot of tough lessons from my then relationship.
and my fiance now, would never do it because this time, i made sure him and i have the same idea about what monogamy should be. if he were to ask me now, i would be offended because we've already communicated to each other about this near the beginning of the relationship... plus, he should know i could never do this... sure fantisizing about it great! and checking out other women is great too... but that's as far as it will go.
SunWuKong
09-13-2003, 12:10 PM
tough question...
when i was a lot younger, while i was with my 2nd serious relationship, my then bf 'encouraged' me to explore my sexual interest w/ other women. it took awhile for me to think about it... i was young and inexperienced then.
i believed my bf was being supportive. so at one very wild party, i went into the hostess' room to fool around with her. i ended up stopping it though because i felt really guilty. she was good about it... and understood. plus it was my first real time w/ another woman so i was somewhat nervous.
afterwards, my then bf suggested we do something together with her... a threesome. i explained that i wasn't comfortable with that... to be honest, seeing him w/ another woman would have really made me jealous. just as seeing me w/ another man would have made him jealous.
he got really upset saying that what i did, then, was unfair. that if if i'm to have any sexual relations w/ another woman, it should involve him because he is my bf.
it was very frustrating as i tried to explain to him that i didn't think his 'supportiveness' into this realm was just so he could work his way into getting some action...
hahhah! he was trying to be slick trying to get two women in bed with him. but he just wasn't slick enough. hehheh.
i have a friend who was in the reverse situation with her boyfriend. the only way she'd actually have full-blown sex with a woman was if her boyfriend was in on it, too. but her boyfriend wanted her to do it alone, because he didn't feel comfortable with the idea of having sex with another woman. and she felt that she would be unfaithful if she had sex with another woman if he was not also involved, even if she had his approval.
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