harry potter star to lead evangelion?

[VV o n g B a]

August 08, 2003 - Could young Harry Potter go from waving his wand in wizard school to battling space invaders from the cockpit of a mech robot? Rumors are out there. Futurizmo Network reports that according to an unnamed source, English boy actor Daniel Radcliffe may be under serious consideration for the part of Shinji Ikari, the child around whom the Evangelion saga centers.

Gainax, ADV Films, and Lord of the Rings effects house WETA are collaborating to bring the hit anime series to life. The producers are expected to seek out an international cast, and children will fill many of the key roles.

The Radcliffe rumor, if true, seems a little odd. By the time Evangelion goes into production – assuming it ever does – Radcliffe will be a bit too old to play the 14-year-old Shinji; and what's more, Shinji is Japanese (as are most of the Evangelion characters). Nevertheless, Radcliffe would garner the film a lot of attention. We'll let you know when any firm casting announcements are made.
-- Paul Davidson

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/432/432931p1.html

[kimpossible]

<!--QuoteBegin-VV o n g B a+Aug 12 2003, 02:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VV o n g B a @ Aug 12 2003, 02:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Shinji is Japanese (as are most of the Evangelion characters). [/b][/quote]
I'm not a big anime fan so pardon my possible ignorance but despite most anime characters being 'Japanese' aren't they usually drawn to look anything but Japanese?

[VV o n g B a]

<!--QuoteBegin-Hello_Hapa+Aug 12 2003, 05:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hello_Hapa @ Aug 12 2003, 05:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not a big anime fan so pardon my possible ignorance but despite most anime characters being 'Japanese' aren't they usually drawn to look anything but Japanese? [/b][/quote]
u could say that, but the original story had an international cast of characters and shinji was japanese. but this may not be bad news actually since shinji's character is pretty damn weak and pathetic and might just serve to perpetuate stereotypes.

i'm just concerned that they will keep shinji as a japanese character but have potter boy play him. basically new yellowface. but the studio heads couldn't be THAT stupid could they? <_<

[YuheiCarreau]

Huge surprise. I already said my piece on this subject on the Comicon Pulse (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/pulse.cgi?http%3A//www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi%3Fubb%3Dget_topic%26f%3D39%26t%3D00 0015) boards, but it comes as no great shock to me that they're looking for White actors to fill Japanese roles.

HH, the "Japaneseness" of anime character design depends on your opinion of what is and isn't Japanese. If you only look at the big eyes, then yes, the characters don't look particularly Japanese. IMO the small noses, high cheekbones of their faces, plus the distinctly Japanese body language most anime characters display is evidence that they are very Japanese. In my experience it's only White people who think the Japanese are imitating Whites by drawing their characters with big eyes; if you ask most Japanese illustrators who use the style, they'd just say it looks prettier.

[kimpossible]

Whoah there, hoss. I didn't say they were trying to be white. I'm not that radical. And yeah, I understand that anime characters are context- culturally Japanese. While I'm not an anime expert it's not like I don't watch my share or haven't sat around watching the tube in Japan.

But it's not unusual for anime characters to have blonde, red, blue or pick your hue hair color, and it's not unusual to have anime characters that are specifically not ethnically Japanese to still speak Japanese and act culturally Japanese in anime. I'd liken it to Brit movies about the French. Funny how the French in Brit movies go around talking in British accented English with each other.

But when it comes down to it, I look more like the average anime character than any full blooded Japanese. Minus the big hooters. If this is going to be a US live action movie and not a Japanese production, what's the big deal about choosing a non-Japanese actor? It's not like the script is in Japanese. Why would I want to see a bunch of Japanese actors running around speaking to each other in English?

[DragonKnight]

<!--QuoteBegin-Hello_Hapa+Aug 12 2003, 03:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hello_Hapa @ Aug 12 2003, 03:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why would I want to see a bunch of Japanese actors running around speaking to each other in English? [/b][/quote]
Ouch...well we have little films of French speaking in English (granted with an accent). Why can't we have Japanese speaking in English (maybe without the accent, but whateverz clever).

[kimpossible]

<!--QuoteBegin-DragonKnight+Aug 12 2003, 03:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DragonKnight @ Aug 12 2003, 03:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ouch...well we have little films of French speaking in English (granted with an accent). Why can't we have Japanese speaking in English (maybe without the accent, but whateverz clever). [/b][/quote]
Oh you can. But I don't understand why you (meaning anyone) would want to prefer English to Japanese in a movie like that. With a cast of characters that are culturally Japanese, in what I assume is set in Japan - what's wrong with using Japanese? It is like the Brits doing the French thing... especially since I used that example. I don't see why The Count of Monte Cristo was in British English (Napoleon speaking British English with other French? Right). I would have been equally desirous to watch if it were in French, i.e. it would not have represented a barrier to me.

It's not even about human race to me. I thought the new Star Wars were dumbed down to English rather than using more alien language with subtitles like they did in episodes 4-6. Instead of the aliens using alien language, the aliens just spoke English with stupid accents.

[YuheiCarreau]

<!--QuoteBegin-Hello_Hapa+Aug 12 2003, 06:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hello_Hapa @ Aug 12 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But when it comes down to it, I look more like the average anime character than any full blooded Japanese. Minus the big hooters. If this is going to be a US live action movie and not a Japanese production, what's the big deal about choosing a non-Japanese actor? It's not like the script is in Japanese. Why would I want to see a bunch of Japanese actors running around speaking to each other in English? [/b][/quote]
Well, let me just start by saying that I'm almost totally opposed to the idea of a live-action Evangelion film, with or without Japanese actors. I'm not the biggest Eva fan in the world, but the story is really just too long and complex to compress into 2 or 3 hours.

That having been said, I think it's important that at least Shinji Ikari should be Japanese, because the character's personality and his struggle seem very uniquely Japanese. It's not like it's impossible for a non-Japanese to play the role, I just think it works best with a Japanese person.

[Ogumo]

"HH, the "Japaneseness" of anime character design depends on your opinion of what is and isn't Japanese. If you only look at the big eyes, then yes, the characters don't look particularly Japanese. IMO the small noses, high cheekbones of their faces, plus the distinctly Japanese body language most anime characters display is evidence that they are very Japanese. In my experience it's only White people who think the Japanese are imitating Whites by drawing their characters with big eyes; if you ask most Japanese illustrators who use the style, they'd just say it looks prettier."

This is correct. But only for anime that happens inside of japan or for characters that are racially japanese. Inu-yasha by rumico takahashi is a good example of this. But does it really matter if this person is doing the voice of a japanese character? I do not think it should matter so much just as long as they are not exagerating the accent of japanese people. It does not matter because i do not like that series anyway.

[YuheiCarreau]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ogumo+Aug 15 2003, 11:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 15 2003, 11:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is correct. But only for anime that happens inside of japan or for characters that are racially japanese. Inu-yasha by rumico takahashi is a good example of this. But does it really matter if this person is doing the voice of a japanese character? I do not think it should matter so much just as long as they are not exagerating the accent of japanese people. It does not matter because i do not like that series anyway. [/b][/quote]
We are not discussing voice acting for the English dub of the animated series. We are discussing the proposed live action remake of Evangelion as a movie by an American company. In other words, it would be Harry Potter's face as well as his voice representing the character Shinji Ikari.

Also, try to make use of the quote function, as it helps separate your words from the post you are responding to. It can be accessed by clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of each post.

[himura-dono]

<!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 15 2003, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 15 2003, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, try to make use of the quote function, as it helps separate your words from the post you are responding to. It can be accessed by clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of each post. [/b][/quote]
*smirks*


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as for there even being a live action movie......*shudders* having harry fuckwit as shinji is just.... :gross: :cry: :HH:

[Ogumo]

<!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 15 2003, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 15 2003, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We are not discussing voice acting for the English dub of the animated series. We are discussing the proposed live action remake of Evangelion as a movie by an American company. In other words, it would be Harry Potter's face as well as his voice representing the character Shinji Ikari.

Also, try to make use of the quote function, as it helps separate your words from the post you are responding to. It can be accessed by clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of each post. [/b][/quote]
I see...this is a ridiculous idea then. The character does not have to be a japanese person but atleast a asian.

[ChinaLama]

<!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 12 2003, 10:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 12 2003, 10:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> my experience it's only White people who think the Japanese are imitating Whites by drawing their characters with big eyes; if you ask most Japanese illustrators who use the style, they'd just say it looks prettier. [/b][/quote]
how about the caucasian-toned faces and the anything-but-black hair? no i guess that's not "white," it's just that japanese people like to wear a lot of makeup and dye their hair, right? makeup and hair-dying that makes them look white.

[Ogumo]

<!--QuoteBegin-ChinaLama+Aug 16 2003, 04:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChinaLama @ Aug 16 2003, 04:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how about the caucasian-toned faces and the anything-but-black hair? no i guess that's not "white," it's just that japanese people like to wear a lot of makeup and dye their hair, right? makeup and hair-dying that makes them look white. [/b][/quote]
Not all anime use this "anything but black" hair. (most do). But for ones that do they try to make the character stand out. It's just animation though...sometimes I think people look to far into it...

[YuheiCarreau]

<!--QuoteBegin-ChinaLama+Aug 16 2003, 08:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChinaLama @ Aug 16 2003, 08:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> how about the caucasian-toned faces and the anything-but-black hair? no i guess that's not "white," it's just that japanese people like to wear a lot of makeup and dye their hair, right? makeup and hair-dying that makes them look white. [/b][/quote]
It's just variation, man. For every anime character that has blonde hair, there's two with purple or pink. And it's not like every single anime character is Japanese, just the vast majority of them; so there are some White characters. As for the skin tone, I know many Japanese who are whiter than most White people I know. Animators take certain liberties with appearance because it's much, much easier to do so when you're drawing the characters (as opposed to using makeup), but that doesn't mean they're trying to make them look White.

I have never, ever heard a Japanese person say "we draw all our comic book and animation characters to look like White people." I've heard it from plenty of Whites who study Japanese, and Asians in the US, but never from someone who grew up reading Japanese comics and watching Japanese animation.

And also, if it is just a case of White-worshiping, those Japanese comics are often translated into Chinese and Korean - and many Chinese countries, and especially Korea, have their own comic book industries that draw their characters in the same style. So any attempt to pin this 'affliction' to Japan's heavy exposure to the US, or Japan's perceived White-worshipping, should be reexamined.

[Tao]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ogumo+Aug 16 2003, 10:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ogumo @ Aug 16 2003, 10:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not all anime use this "anything but black" hair. (most do). But for ones that do they try to make the character stand out. It's just animation though...sometimes I think people look to far into it... [/b][/quote]
Yep I concur

[MellowDrama]

It's just a rumor. Chill.

[ChinaLama]

<!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 16 2003, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 16 2003, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have never, ever heard a Japanese person say "we draw all our comic book and animation characters to look like White people." I've heard it from plenty of Whites who study Japanese, and Asians in the US, but never from someone who grew up reading Japanese comics and watching Japanese animation.

And also, if it is just a case of White-worshiping, those Japanese comics are often translated into Chinese and Korean - and many Chinese countries, and especially Korea, have their own comic book industries that draw their characters in the same style. So any attempt to pin this 'affliction' to Japan's heavy exposure to the US, or Japan's perceived White-worshipping, should be reexamined. [/b][/quote]
just because people don't say it doesn't mean it isn't. also, i didn't say hong kongers and mainlanders weren't white-washed. i mean come on, communism? capitalism? not exactly homegrown doctrines. i won't even talk about korea. aka "Please Save Us from the Evil Northerners Hello-San" aka "I need eyelid surgery for health reasons". oops, i guess i just did talk about Korea. Sorry, Corea. Anyway maybe the sexually deviant porn is a sign of white-washedness in Japan. Unless Japanese people are "culturally" into vomit and shit. It's all good. I mean it's not really much more gross than golden showers. oh wait hentai does that all the time. hmmm.....
alright i'd accept Japanese culture is not white-washed, just really not friendly to women.

i could launch into how the whole world's westernized aka whitewashed but nahhhhhh don't feel like trying to sound smart and look stupid. i got enough omg you're an idiot looks from my friend today. ;)

P.S. Please don't get offended. Well, ok, please don't bitch about being offended. As you can tell, I'm on a "I don't care and I'm being completely careless in my remarks" day.

[YuheiCarreau]

<!--QuoteBegin-ChinaLama+Aug 17 2003, 12:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChinaLama @ Aug 17 2003, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 16 2003, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 16 2003, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have never, ever heard a Japanese person say "we draw all our comic book and animation characters to look like White people." I've heard it from plenty of Whites who study Japanese, and Asians in the US, but never from someone who grew up reading Japanese comics and watching Japanese animation.

And also, if it is just a case of White-worshiping, those Japanese comics are often translated into Chinese and Korean - and many Chinese countries, and especially Korea, have their own comic book industries that draw their characters in the same style. So any attempt to pin this 'affliction' to Japan's heavy exposure to the US, or Japan's perceived White-worshipping, should be reexamined. [/b][/quote]
just because people don't say it doesn't mean it isn't. also, i didn't say hong kongers and mainlanders weren't white-washed. i mean come on, communism? capitalism? not exactly homegrown doctrines. i won't even talk about korea. aka "Please Save Us from the Evil Northerners Hello-San" aka "I need eyelid surgery for health reasons". oops, i guess i just did talk about Korea. Sorry, Corea. Anyway maybe the sexually deviant porn is a sign of white-washedness in Japan. Unless Japanese people are "culturally" into vomit and shit. It's all good. I mean it's not really much more gross than golden showers. oh wait hentai does that all the time. hmmm.....
alright i'd accept Japanese culture is not white-washed, just really not friendly to women.

i could launch into how the whole world's westernized aka whitewashed but nahhhhhh don't feel like trying to sound smart and look stupid. i got enough omg you're an idiot looks from my friend today. ;)

P.S. Please don't get offended. Well, ok, please don't bitch about being offended. As you can tell, I'm on a "I don't care and I'm being completely careless in my remarks" day. [/b][/quote]

Bouncing your head around so much must be killing all your braincells.

That tomato is Whitewashed!

[ChinaLama]

why yes. the tomato is whitewashed. but you know, "takes one to know one." how can i tell if entire CULTURES are whitewashed if I'm not whitewashed myself? duh!

[Ogumo]

<!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 16 2003, 09:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 16 2003, 09:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ChinaLama+Aug 17 2003, 12:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChinaLama @ Aug 17 2003, 12:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+Aug 16 2003, 03:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ Aug 16 2003, 03:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I have never, ever heard a Japanese person say "we draw all our comic book and animation characters to look like White people." I've heard it from plenty of Whites who study Japanese, and Asians in the US, but never from someone who grew up reading Japanese comics and watching Japanese animation.

And also, if it is just a case of White-worshiping, those Japanese comics are often translated into Chinese and Korean - and many Chinese countries, and especially Korea, have their own comic book industries that draw their characters in the same style. So any attempt to pin this 'affliction' to Japan's heavy exposure to the US, or Japan's perceived White-worshipping, should be reexamined. [/b][/quote]
just because people don't say it doesn't mean it isn't. also, i didn't say hong kongers and mainlanders weren't white-washed. i mean come on, communism? capitalism? not exactly homegrown doctrines. i won't even talk about korea. aka "Please Save Us from the Evil Northerners Hello-San" aka "I need eyelid surgery for health reasons". oops, i guess i just did talk about Korea. Sorry, Corea. Anyway maybe the sexually deviant porn is a sign of white-washedness in Japan. Unless Japanese people are "culturally" into vomit and shit. It's all good. I mean it's not really much more gross than golden showers. oh wait hentai does that all the time. hmmm.....
alright i'd accept Japanese culture is not white-washed, just really not friendly to women.

i could launch into how the whole world's westernized aka whitewashed but nahhhhhh don't feel like trying to sound smart and look stupid. i got enough omg you're an idiot looks from my friend today. ;)

P.S. Please don't get offended. Well, ok, please don't bitch about being offended. As you can tell, I'm on a "I don't care and I'm being completely careless in my remarks" day. [/b][/quote]

Bouncing your head around so much must be killing all your braincells.

That tomato is Whitewashed! [/b][/quote]
That is damn funny.

[Ogumo]

Ughh. There are about 12 dragon ball z movies. They came out before 1995. Or is america making their own now?