kobe's alleged rape victim

[sandra]

as much as i like kobe (he's my favorite), i can't help but feel like a sell-out for not speaking up when the fans in l.a. say that she's fabricating the story, that she's a lying loser. why would kobe need to rape her, they ask? and going a step further, even if kobe raped her, she should be thankful, they say.

here, i don't know who to believe. but in general, i tend to think that most women won't go through the humiliation of claiming they were raped when they really were not. even most women who really were raped don't come forward. i don't know. what are your feelings on this?

[Everglaze]

She's probably just another fraud trying to thief his wealth.

But like you said, it's questionnable who to believe.

[moschikat]

*ka-ching*

Spurs fan that I am, I'm gonna have to side w/ Kobe . . . . maybe she's bribed the town and all - I mean, if the payoff's good no??

Reminds me of that movie - Wild Things . . . *rawr!*

[nonamerasian]

Although I tend to look at Kobe as squeaky clean, I also I tend to look at alleged rapists as guilty until proven innocent.

I’m torn.

I’ll leave any speculation on the matter up to journalists.

[Deadpool]

Its no secret to to Prosports stars that you get an incredible amount of groupies and golddiggers following you. They deal with fucked up people very often. They are a magnet for freaks, unlike movie stars.
When something like this arises involving mega rich, young and handsome supoerstars like Kobe, it raises my suspicions of the alleged victims unfortunantly.

[sandra]

<!--QuoteBegin-Everglaze+Jul 22 2003, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Everglaze @ Jul 22 2003, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> She's probably just another fraud trying to thief his wealth.

But like you said, it's questionnable who to believe. [/b][/quote]
it's a criminal case. the state brings the charges. if they win, kobe goes to jail. she gets nothing.


anyhow, let's hear from just the girls though. i think we're a little more sensitive to the issue of rape. not just being raped, but the humilation that comes along with being in the public eye, announcing to the world that you're "unchaste", etc.

[mr. x]

speaking as a non-female id say both are guilty of at least SOMETHING (well no shit sherlock to me)

what i mean to say is if she was my guess is she had instinctively crossed a line knowing there would be some action of some sort

[angel nympho]

I'm not a huge Kobe fan, but I think it's impossible for him to rape anybody even if he wanted to.&nbsp; I don't know a single 19 year old girl who wouldn't willingly have sex with him if he asked.&nbsp; I don't like him, but I'd probably have sex with him just to brag about it.&nbsp; LOL, okay, all jokes aside... I believe in *innocent until proven guilty* and he hasn't yet been proven guilty.&nbsp; So for now, I'll just believe that this girl saw her opportunity.&nbsp; I thought, even before he admitted to porking her, that they had consentual sex and she's just cashing in.

[tapestrybabe]

i dunno... i mean, what does she have to gain by coming out in public with this story... like its been mentioned... if charges are brought on him... in the end, she's not gonna receive anything... maybe it started out as consentual... but things got a little out of hand... who knows... i think its really easy to want to believe someone is innocent... with a reputation of some sports figure like kobie... i'm not trying to take any sides or anything... i mean, right now... know one really knows for sure... and yeah, he's innocent until proven guilty...

[littlebutfierce]

I don't get why so many people seem to think that she's probably making it up. Why? Because famous people are somehow immune to violent behavior & therefore he just couldn't have done it?

It's one thing to say "I will wait to see what the court says," it's another to have so many people disparaging this woman by saying that she's obviously just trying to bring him down or get money. I think it reflects a larger attitude in society--the remnants of the "you were asking for it, what were you wearing, why did you do that" school of thought when it comes to sexual assault. Women still seem to be believed much less than men, & that's pretty disgusting.

[Cipherous]

<!--QuoteBegin-kasia+Jul 22 2003, 05:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kasia @ Jul 22 2003, 05:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Everglaze+Jul 22 2003, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Everglaze @ Jul 22 2003, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> She's probably just another fraud trying to thief his wealth.

But like you said, it's questionnable who to believe. [/b][/quote]
it's a criminal case. the state brings the charges. if they win, kobe goes to jail. she gets nothing.


anyhow, let's from just the girls though. i think we're a little more sensitive to the issue of rape. not just being raped, but the humilation that comes along with being in the public eye, announcing to the world that you're "unchaste", etc. [/b][/quote]
Oh she gets something alright...

you can bet that CNN, ESPN or whatever networks will be willing to shell out big bucks for exclusive interviews and maybe even movie rights.

I won't jump the gun and call her a gold digger nor shall I call Kobe a rapist until the dust is settled and cleared.&nbsp;

[mrazntre]

I tend to believe that probably 98% of the female population would willingly have sex with Kobe....

but then again.. the chick did say that she felt sick to her stomach when Kobe gave his press conference doing his "i commited adultery, not a sin" bit and said "no money in the world would make up for what he did and she wanted him to go to jail."

Apparently. we have two spinsters. 1 on each side.

I wonder if Johnnie Cochran has been notified.

[sandra]

<!--QuoteBegin-littlebutfierce+Jul 22 2003, 06:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (littlebutfierce @ Jul 22 2003, 06:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's one thing to say "I will wait to see what the court says," it's another to have so many people disparaging this woman by saying that she's obviously just trying to bring him down or get money. I think it reflects a larger attitude in society--the remnants of the "you were asking for it, what were you wearing, why did you do that" school of thought when it comes to sexual assault. Women still seem to be believed much less than men, & that's pretty disgusting. [/b][/quote]
my thoughts exactly.&nbsp; it seems like everything we were taught doesn't matter just because it's kobe.&nbsp; innocent 'til proven guilty is one thing.&nbsp; calling her a golddigging hoe is quite another.

[AngryABCGirl]

I'm very suspcious on both sides now.

If he did rape her though, he should definitely go to jail for it, and I'll have definite sympathy for her and the scrunity she's facing and the courage she has to report the crime.

Then again there's always the fact that, 98% of women would probably have sex with Kobe Bryant and that he's rich and famous and maybe she just wants to profit off a mutual error in judgement.

One thing that seems to have been missing from the entire case I haven't heard is was there any alleged use of alchohol or drugs, that would change everything.

[coagulated fat]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 22 2003, 06:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 22 2003, 06:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm not a huge Kobe fan, but I think it's impossible for him to rape anybody even if he wanted to. I don't know a single 19 year old girl who wouldn't willingly have sex with him if he asked. [/b][/quote]
Not me.&nbsp; Chris webber on the other hand...

And I agree with what you guys are saying -- I don't think we're in any position to speculate about who is in the wrong considering we know very little about the case or the people involved (even though some people will never admit that they don't have any idea if Kobe's really a good guy or not).

[Everglaze]

<!--QuoteBegin-coagulated fat+Jul 22 2003, 09:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (coagulated fat @ Jul 22 2003, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not me. Chris webber on the other hand...

And I agree with what you guys are saying -- I don't think we're in any position to speculate about who is in the wrong considering we know very little about the case or the people involved (even though some people will never admit that they don't have any idea if Kobe's really a good guy or not). [/b][/quote]
Yeah, on second thought...this reminds me of R.Kelly, a famous guy doing disturbing things.

Until further notice, I'm not gonna accuse either fully.

Oh yeah, and did you know that some women have sex with the man and then accuse him of rape cause she wants money? it happens, just a thought.

But yeah, I'm gonna leave it be till further notice.

[angel nympho]

<!--QuoteBegin-littlebutfierce+Jul 23 2003, 02:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (littlebutfierce @ Jul 23 2003, 02:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't get why so many people seem to think that she's probably making it up. Why? Because famous people are somehow immune to violent behavior & therefore he just couldn't have done it?

It's one thing to say "I will wait to see what the court says," it's another to have so many people disparaging this woman by saying that she's obviously just trying to bring him down or get money. I think it reflects a larger attitude in society--the remnants of the "you were asking for it, what were you wearing, why did you do that" school of thought when it comes to sexual assault. Women still seem to be believed much less than men, & that's pretty disgusting. [/b][/quote]
Because women who accuse celebrities have much more to gain.

[kimpossible]

I'm torn too. On one hand he just doesn't come across as the type of guy who would rape a woman, but I know that's a stupid thing to think and I probably think that because he is famous, successful and looks like a nice guy. On the other hand, the woman isn't suing him, she's testifying to an alleged violent crime against her. If it was a dollar issue I'd completely dismiss her but I find it compelling that she's willing to put herself on the stand. The courts aren't exactly gentle with rape victims.

[Arex]

I don't really know who to believe.&nbsp; I wouldn't imagine someone of Kobe's reputation would do something so utterly stupid.&nbsp; Then again, I didn't think he'd be so quick to commit adultery either.=P&nbsp; Of course, rape and infidelity are two completely different things.&nbsp;

But to those who question what the girl has to gain by fabricating these charges...let's not forget that if he's convicted in the criminal action, she stands to make a helluva lot of $$$ in the civil suit which is sure to follow.&nbsp; The incentive is definitely there.


Alex

[Danny]

this harkens to shades of Kirby Puckett, thought to be the nicest guy in MLB his entire career, now after he leaves and his sexcual assault case, news comes out of how he would cheat on his wife with welfare women becuase they were easy... he once gave some woman I believe a head of lettuce or something for Christmas and laughed it off saying that he gave her something.

Nobody knows Kobe, he is a private person, does that make him squeaky clean and ag ood guy? No, it just means that if he has done something that he was never caught at it.