Freakin' eyelids

[coagulated fat]

Driving me crazy. Do you know what I am referring to when I say "eyelid problems"? I'm too lazy to explain it if everyone knows what I'm talking about.

Is this an exclusively hapa problem? I hope so because I'm posting on the hapa forum.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 02:29 AM
Driving me crazy. Do you know what I am referring to when I say "eyelid problems"? I'm too lazy to explain it if everyone knows what I'm talking about.
uh, not quite clear what you're talking about, actually :P

[YuheiCarreau]

The only hapa-specific thing I can think of is that I have one eyelid that's folded, and one that's not... I know a couple of monoracials with that characteristic, though.

[Emperor_Mike]

Both my eyelids are folded. I'm confused as to where this thread is heading. :P

[Emperor_Mike]

Or perhaps the eyelid problem you're having, CoagulatedFat, is one borne out of some type of infection or something along similar lines?

In which case, pay your doctor a visit and see what he thinks.

[kimpossible]

I know what it means to me personally. Sometimes eye makeup is a bitch to figure out, one of my eyelids is more caucasian than the other and my flat lids don't match my face in general. My guess is the guys wouldn't spend a moment thinking about it though.

[coagulated fat]

Mike I Refuse To Call Emperor - This thread is heading nowhere.

My eyelids change every day. Sometimes one double eyelid is bigger than the other, sometimes they fold over so it looks like there's just one lid, sometimes there's one lid on one side and what could best be described as a triple eyelid on the other side. It looks nearly as bizarre as it sounds. I hoped that they would establish themselves as I got older, but no. HH what are "flat" lids?

[Emperor_Mike]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 11:48 AM
Mike I Refuse To Call Emperor - This thread is heading nowhere.

My eyelids change every day. Sometimes one double eyelid is bigger than the other, sometimes they fold over so it looks like there's just one lid, sometimes there's one lid on one side and what could best be described as a triple eyelid on the other side. It looks nearly as bizarre as it sounds. I hoped that they would establish themselves as I got older, but no. HH what are "flat" lids?
That's "Your Most Christian Imperial Majesty" to you, CoagulatedFat! And why the refusal to address me by my title? Doesn't the shiny plastic crown adorned with paste stones of my avatar impress you? Hmmph. :D

Actually, I have the third eyelid thing going somedays too when I'm tired. I don't know when it started, but it's bizarre in a "This Reminds of the Time When I" story type of way.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 03:48 PM
Mike I Refuse To Call Emperor - This thread is heading nowhere.

My eyelids change every day. Sometimes one double eyelid is bigger than the other, sometimes they fold over so it looks like there's just one lid, sometimes there's one lid on one side and what could best be described as a triple eyelid on the other side. It looks nearly as bizarre as it sounds. I hoped that they would establish themselves as I got older, but no. HH what are "flat" lids?
you are so cute.

[Hiroshi2]

I have never in my life heard about anyone, hapa or not, having such a problem. This sounds a bit weird to me quite frankly.......


And btw, aren't "Mongoloid" eyes (I don't know of another term for it, sorry) a dominant trait? Every person I've seen who was hapa always seem to adopt the "Mongoloid" eyes, if nothing else from their asian parent.

[Emperor_Mike]

Originally posted by Hiroshi2@Jun 17 2003, 01:39 PM
I have never in my life heard about anyone, hapa or not, having such a problem. This sounds a bit weird to me quite frankly.......


And btw, aren't "Mongoloid" eyes (I don't know of another term for it, sorry) a dominant trait? Every person I've seen who was hapa always seem to adopt the "Mongoloid" eyes, if nothing else from their asian parent.
Mongoloid eyelids? With no fold? Is that what it is?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Jun 17 2003, 12:26 AM
The only hapa-specific thing I can think of is that I have one eyelid that's folded, and one that's not... I know a couple of monoracials with that characteristic, though.
yea i'm monoracial/monoethnic too (although I don't believe in any type of pure Chinese blood or genetic homogenity) and although both of my eyes have folds, one eye seems to have a more prominent fold than the other, but on other days they are about the same *shrug* Maybe it's the grass-is-greener effect but I find monolids beautiful. Damn Mongolia-phile fetish.....

[nonamerasian]

I'm dopey on this subject. What does a third lid look like?

My family is predominately non-Asian, but a lot, if not most of us, work different variations of the epicanthic fold.

For some of those without it, the shape of their eyes are so deceiving that it seems they have one anyhow.

I don't know if it is dominate, recessive, or what--Although, like skin color, I believe it to be neither--However, I think almost everyone with one parent with the fold in my family ends up with it as well.

Several people even look East Asian.

[thaite]

I don't even know what you're talking about. Monolid? Double eyelid?

[BeTheReds]

Eyes with the epicanthic fold are present on everyone in the womb, The trait goes away in every non-asian as the fetus develops.

Dominant or Recessive as it may be, there are plenty of us (ME ME ME) who did not recieve that part of DNA from our Asian parents.

[nonamerasian]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jun 17 2003, 08:17 PM
Eyes with the epicanthic fold are present on everyone in the womb, The trait goes away in every non-asian as the fetus develops.
Actually, you can find populations in Western Africa, as well as other areas on the continent, with the same trait.

While it's very much associated with Asians, it's not exclusive to Asians in the least.

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 12:48 PM
Mike I Refuse To Call Emperor - This thread is heading nowhere.

My eyelids change every day. Sometimes one double eyelid is bigger than the other, sometimes they fold over so it looks like there's just one lid, sometimes there's one lid on one side and what could best be described as a triple eyelid on the other side. It looks nearly as bizarre as it sounds. I hoped that they would establish themselves as I got older, but no. HH what are "flat" lids?
Weird... Actually for me, I'm monolid (no folds) until I open my eyes really wide and then a fold appears. It's really weird. When I was younger, my eyelids were always changing... and apparently my fold is more persistant on my right eye, than my left. It's really weird.

[nonamerasian]

Originally posted by thaite@Jun 17 2003, 07:08 PM
I don't even know what you're talking about. Monolid? Double eyelid?
A mono-lid is the shape of eyes you see if you look at Fireblade's picture.

A double lid is the type of eyes associated with Caucasians.

[Chester]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 11:48 AM
My eyelids change every day. Sometimes one double eyelid is bigger than the other, sometimes they fold over so it looks like there's just one lid, sometimes there's one lid on one side and what could best be described as a triple eyelid on the other side. It looks nearly as bizarre as it sounds.
Eh, it's not bizarre at all. My right eye has an epicanthic fold and the left doesn't. Every day, I think -- I don't pay much attention to it and I don't think anyone has ever remarked to me about it.

Of course, that's probably because they're mesmerized by my grotesquely-wide cranium.

[Emperor_Mike]

Originally posted by nonamerasian@Jun 17 2003, 04:50 PM
A mono-lid is the shape of eyes you see if you look at Fireblade's picture.

A double lid is the type of eyes associated with Caucasians.
The picture's too small and hurts my eyes. But I think I know what mono/Mongol...erm...lid means.

[Chester]

Man...now I'm confused again. Dammit, are y'all talking about epicanthic folds or not?

If you're not talking about epicanthic folds, I'm just gonna go home...

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by Chester@Jun 17 2003, 05:25 PM
Man...now I'm confused again. Dammit, are y'all talking about epicanthic folds or not?

If you're not talking about epicanthic folds, I'm just gonna go home...
u can't go home 'til we both figure out a way to stare at a woman's breasts continuously without having to resort to dressing up like blind men with big hats.

[kayla]

I sometimes have the triple eyelid too. Usually after staying up all night. Its kinda weird and its usually very apparent since I already have prominent double eyelids. (like my daddy)

And since we're on the subject on eyelids, does anyone else have eyelids where you look like you wear eyeshadow but you don't? I got that from my mom. Its weird cuz i dont know anyone else who has it. And i was somewhat "teased" by my friends in grade school cuz they all thought I wore makeup and it was supposedly a "bad" thing to do. kids. =)

[nonamerasian]

What do triple lids look like?

[kayla]

three folds = triple eyelids

yeah. i dont know how else to explain it.

[mrazntre]

Originally posted by kayla@Jun 18 2003, 02:25 AM
I sometimes have the triple eyelid too. Usually after staying up all night. Its kinda weird and its usually very apparent since I already have prominent double eyelids. (like my daddy)

And since we're on the subject on eyelids, does anyone else have eyelids where you look like you wear eyeshadow but you don't? I got that from my mom. Its weird cuz i dont know anyone else who has it. And i was somewhat "teased" by my friends in grade school cuz they all thought I wore makeup and it was supposedly a "bad" thing to do. kids. =)
i definitely need to see a picture of that.

[Tao]

Originally posted by kayla@Jun 17 2003, 10:53 PM
three folds = triple eyelids

yeah. i dont know how else to explain it.
yeah sometimes i get those, like when i sleep with my face on the pillow in such a way as to distort the lid folding. usually when that happens I try to squint a lot to make it less apparent.

[coagulated fat]

Originally posted by Tao@Jun 17 2003, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by kayla@Jun 17 2003, 10:53 PM
three folds = triple eyelids

yeah. i dont know how else to explain it.
yeah sometimes i get those, like when i sleep with my face on the pillow in such a way as to distort the lid folding. usually when that happens I try to squint a lot to make it less apparent.
Amen to that. If I sleep on my face weird, my eyelids get messed up.

I think the best way to describe a triple eyelid is one that folds over twice, because a "double" eyelid really just has one fold.

[nonamerasian]

I want to see that.

I still can't visualize it.

Now I bet I'm going to start staring people down in search of a triple lid.

[coagulated fat]

One of the hot guys Jaley posted on the Hot Guy Thread sorta has it.

http://images3.fotki.com/v24/photos/4/43335/253194/c27-vi.jpg

It looks good on him, obviously, so I think he's a good spokesperson for triple lid havers.

[nonamerasian]

ohhh

[sandra]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 11:48 AM
Mike I Refuse To Call Emperor - This thread is heading nowhere.

My eyelids change every day. Sometimes one double eyelid is bigger than the other, sometimes they fold over so it looks like there's just one lid, sometimes there's one lid on one side and what could best be described as a triple eyelid on the other side. It looks nearly as bizarre as it sounds. I hoped that they would establish themselves as I got older, but no. HH what are "flat" lids?
i used to have that problem - up til i turned 23? fairly recently. i always got it when i didn't get enough sleep. very annoying. i'd sit in front of my mirror during the mornings with a washcloth on one eye trying to make it go double again. my mom told me it would go away once i hit my mid-20's...i didn't believe her, but it seems to be true. haven't had that problem for a long while. something for some of you to look forward to?

[Deadpool]

Im not even hapa but I seem to get double lid when I open up my eyes wide. and I can relax and keep the double lid look. LoL :lol:

[kayla]

Originally posted by Deadpool@Jun 18 2003, 03:17 AM
Im not even hapa but I seem to get double lid when I open up my eyes wide. and I can relax and keep the double lid look. LoL :lol:
you don't have to be a happa to have double eyelids. a lot of asians have double eyelids. not that i'm saying happas arent asians.

[coagulated fat]

Originally posted by kasia@Jun 18 2003, 12:31 AM
i used to have that problem - up til i turned 23? fairly recently. i always got it when i didn't get enough sleep. very annoying. i'd sit in front of my mirror during the mornings with a washcloth on one eye trying to make it go double again. my mom told me it would go away once i hit my mid-20's...i didn't believe her, but it seems to be true. haven't had that problem for a long while. something for some of you to look forward to?
Weird that it would take over 20 years for the lids to settle down, or up, or however they're going to be. But I look forward to it. Looks like mine will probably turn out as small double lids, so yay, I can wear eyeshadow. But you can put your money on monolids or triple lids, or any combination of monolids, double lids, or triple lids. Anyone wanna bet me?

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by kayla@Jun 18 2003, 01:04 PM
a lot of asians have double eyelids.
An article posted around here a while ago pointed out that as many as 70% of southern Chinese naturally possess a double eyelid anyway ... see if I can dig it up ...

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by coagulated fat@Jun 17 2003, 11:48 AM
HH what are "flat" lids?
From what I've seen. many Caucasian women have a bit of a recess above their eye. It's a reference point for a lot of eye makeup techniques. Most likely it's just my pet term for monolid. I didn't grow up with correct Asian American terminology.

[BeTheReds]

I only have eyelid problems when I get eye infections.

[nonamerasian]

I finally saw triple eyelids in person today.

Once on an older Black woman, the other on a younger Black man.

The guy only had one eye like that, though.

[kuanyin]

sometimes the whole eyelid issue (changing so sporadically) ocurrs due to diet. when you eat dampening food (alcohol for example, your eyes get puffy. your face swells a bit. affects the eyelids.

but yeah, i got that problem too. and y'all would never know.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by kuanyin@Jul 1 2003, 01:22 PM
sometimes the whole eyelid issue (changing so sporadically) ocurrs due to diet. when you eat dampening food (alcohol for example, your eyes get puffy. your face swells a bit. affects the eyelids.

but yeah, i got that problem too. and y'all would never know.
"Dampening foods"? What, like liquids?

[Hiroshi2]

I still have no idea what you guys are talking about. Is there any way somebody could provide a photo or something? :confused:

[princess]

eeesh my eyelids are funky. my right one is always a double and my left one does whatever it feels like. it has a mind of its own. i wish i could make it behave.

[coagulated fat]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Jul 1 2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by kuanyin@Jul 1 2003, 01:22 PM
sometimes the whole eyelid issue (changing so sporadically) ocurrs due to diet. when you eat dampening food (alcohol for example, your eyes get puffy. your face swells a bit. affects the eyelids.

but yeah, i got that problem too. and y'all would never know.
"Dampening foods"? What, like liquids?
:lol:
I don't think that's what kuanyin meant, but I am going to call liquids "dampening foods" from now on.

Hiroshi, I will try to explain. Kay. Um... look at the guy's picture that I posted. He has triple eyelids, there's one main fold and then a sort of fold in the middle of that fold. We're talking about when a person has one of those and a regular double eyelid, or a double eyelid and a monolid/stereotypical Asian "hooded" eyelid. I hope that makes sense.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Jul 1 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by kuanyin@Jul 1 2003, 01:22 PM
sometimes the whole eyelid issue (changing so sporadically) ocurrs due to diet. when you eat dampening food (alcohol for example, your eyes get puffy. your face swells a bit. affects the eyelids.

but yeah, i got that problem too. and y'all would never know.
"Dampening foods"? What, like liquids?
eh, food/drink having a depressant effect, maybe?

[AngryABCGirl]

A few days ago one of my eyelids didn't do the double eyelid and was liek folded back halfway like up toward my forehead. It was a bit frightening but it straightened itself out. I think I wasn't getting enough sleep.