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kimpossible
04-10-2003, 02:56 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows how to throw a good punch. I mean a good, technical boxing punch. Not kick aerobics or Tae Bo.

I know how to jab, cross, hook and uppercut. I can do doubles and combos but I haven't for quite a while. I've sparred a bit in the past. But that's it. I don't know anything fancier than that though I'm pretty good at shadowing or matching steps.

moschikat
04-10-2003, 03:03 PM
last time i threw a punch at a boy cuz' he was talking smack about me, i almost had to go to court.

*amazing what money can do in thailand!*

but no, i prefer the nail scratching, hair pulling and shirt ripping . . . :dance:

Napoleon Chynamite
04-10-2003, 03:05 PM
looks like ur doing alright for urself already kim...remind me not to mess with u


Probly have nuthin new to offer u....but dun think there is much to a good punch in terms of using words for description but, um..maintain loose and relaxed shoulders that easily rotate if the movement requires it, make sure the fist is tight and thumb folds over and outside the other fingers instead of remaining hidden inside unless ur training in a special style that uses this in order to prevent injury to the knuckles, hand, fingers, wrist etc, aim behind the target instead of to the target, one of my teachers taught me move my other hand towards the punching shoulder in order to produce counteraction and also if ur not plannin on being committed but you aren't planning on stepping forward then remember to pivot your feet and make sure the waist is able to also easily rotate just like ur shoulders so that everything moves smoothly..... :unsure: If ur talking about traditional martial art punches done from a standstill stance whether it be horse or whatever etc (full rotation of the arm which starts from your side/waist to the middle of ur chest or face level)yea those would be good for training and practice and coordination but if ur already coordinated then the more efficient punches are boxing punches, which as you mentioned already have experience in :)

teaz0r
04-10-2003, 03:07 PM
thai kickboxing since i was a little girl
trained at the camp my father comissioned.

not to serious. never fought. cuz girls aren't
allowed to fight in the thai kickboxing ring.
it's only for men. apparently my vagina will
de-sacredize the ring.

but yeah. i can throw a punch. my ex will vouch for that.

deez nuts
04-10-2003, 03:19 PM
my old man taught me how to box when i was like 8 till 14. and then from 14 till the end of college i trained at a gym and sparred with a partner 3-4 times a week.

Napoleon Chynamite
04-10-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Apr 10 2003, 01:56 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows how to throw a good punch. I mean a good, technical boxing punch. Not kick aerobics or Tae Bo.

I know how to jab, cross, hook and uppercut. I can do doubles and combos but I haven't for quite a while. I've sparred a bit in the past. But that's it. I don't know anything fancier than that though I'm pretty good at shadowing or matching steps.
shit never mind....sorry I was under the impression that you were asking for advice when you just wanted to know if anyone else knew how to do it. Sorry :dance: :luv: :ph34r: :blush:

kimpossible
04-10-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Apr 10 2003, 02:05 PM
looks like ur doing alright for urself already kim...remind me not to mess with u

Yeah I don't know how well I'd do in a by the rules fair fight but I imagine I'd get a royal ass kicking. I've sparred with fully grown men and I'm not a big girl. I took hits but I bruised like a mofo and I'll tell you it really hurt. One of the reasons I stopped, I was getting hurt too much.

So, I'd probably go for straight for the kill or just leave you alone altogether. Sleep well tonight.

Elizabeth A.
04-10-2003, 03:29 PM
I don't know. I never tried.

sandra
04-10-2003, 03:30 PM
i don't. that's why i fight dirty.

kimpossible
04-10-2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Apr 10 2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Apr 10 2003, 01:56 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows how to throw a good punch. I mean a good, technical boxing punch. Not kick aerobics or Tae Bo.

I know how to jab, cross, hook and uppercut. I can do doubles and combos but I haven't for quite a while. I've sparred a bit in the past. But that's it. I don't know anything fancier than that though I'm pretty good at shadowing or matching steps.
shit never mind....sorry I was under the impression that you were asking for advice when you just wanted to know if anyone else knew how to do it. Sorry :dance: :luv: :ph34r: :blush:
Hey, don't apologize. It's not like I wouldn't take your advice seriously.

TyroneK(prettypretty)
04-10-2003, 06:58 PM
I plan on taking some self-defense classes because I only have instincts for choking, kicking and gouging. Seriously.

I want to learn how to punch and actually survive a fight and not just hurt the opponent. I'm thinking of taking Krav Maga.

achtungbaby
04-10-2003, 07:19 PM
I scratch like a mofo.

amietron
04-10-2003, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@Apr 10 2003, 06:19 PM
I scratch like a mofo.
Me, too. :) Apparently, when I elbow, it hurts a lot. Ask Nick. :lol: =X

kitty
04-10-2003, 07:24 PM
considering I'm part of a big karate demo on saturday, I'd hope I know how to throw a punch :) we were actually working on that... so many people throw bar punches which are so slow they are hardly effective. Plus they're easily blocked.

ChinaLama
04-10-2003, 07:47 PM
i wish i knew how to fight. then i wouldn't have gotten my ass kicked by someone 4 yrs younger than me in high school.

YuheiCarreau
04-10-2003, 08:24 PM
I am a completely inept fighter. No strength, no reflexes, no speed. And yet for some reason, in the two fights I was in in grade school, the first guy got a concussion and the second guy got a black eye. Both times I walked away without a scratch :huh: . Couldn't tell you why.

bigwong235
04-10-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by amietron@Apr 10 2003, 06:22 PM
Me, too. :) Apparently, when I elbow, it hurts a lot. Ask Nick. :lol: =X
:o <--- me after receiving an elbow.

:cry: <---- me again after receiving the elbow.

:gross: <--- me for an hour after elbow.

tvbdude
04-10-2003, 09:41 PM
I do. I love sparring

Adaon
04-10-2003, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Apr 10 2003, 06:47 PM
i wish i knew how to fight. then i wouldn't have gotten my ass kicked by someone 4 yrs younger than me in high school.
oucheth.....man, only in NYC :o

punching is good, kicking is better....need to work on my kicks :)

thaite
04-10-2003, 10:21 PM
http://www.wingchun.com/img/ym.gif

ChinaLama
04-10-2003, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Adaon@Apr 11 2003, 05:02 AM
oucheth.....man, only in NYC :o

punching is good, kicking is better....need to work on my kicks :)
woulda happened anywhere. yup, i'm that weak. :(

alt. when i lived in missouri, no one really treated me very poorly. then again we were at the stage of childhood where childhood cruelty only manifest itself to really different people. for instance, these kids in my class who were sorta my friends used to taunt an older retarded girl. they'd go up to her and kick her in the ass and do other mean things.

yeah...so anyone who says children are innocent and sweet is living in denial. kids are MEAN or even downright VICIOUS. :pissed: it's only as adults do we become good ppl. :)

oh...and back on topic-- would being able to use a weapon be even better than punching and kicking?

Napoleon Chynamite
04-10-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Apr 10 2003, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Adaon@Apr 11 2003, 05:02 AM
oucheth.....man, only in NYC&nbsp; :o

punching is good, kicking is better....need to work on my kicks :)
woulda happened anywhere. yup, i'm that weak. :(

alt. when i lived in missouri, no one really treated me very poorly. then again we were at the stage of childhood where childhood cruelty only manifest itself to really different people. for instance, these kids in my class who were sorta my friends used to taunt an older retarded girl. they'd go up to her and kick her in the ass and do other mean things.

yeah...so anyone who says children are innocent and sweet is living in denial. kids are MEAN or even downright VICIOUS. :pissed: it's only as adults do we become good ppl. :)

oh...and back on topic-- would being able to use a weapon be even better than punching and kicking?
Nothing like a sawed-off grenade launcher to scare off street thugs.

kimpossible
04-11-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by thaite@Apr 10 2003, 09:21 PM
http://www.wingchun.com/img/ym.gif
that looks like trapping rather than punching, lessee if I can remember... pak sau lap sau?

Adaon
04-11-2003, 08:34 AM
That's what it looks like to me, HH. :D Yip Man was da man. :P

And Jing, I still lmao at the thought of you trying to throw potential muggers off with a Kamehameha

Fireblade
04-11-2003, 11:08 AM
eh... I can't really punch worth for shit... I tend to do some other obscene stuff. Like slam the heel of my palm into the temples of the forehead, or use my forearm to slam into the guy's nose.

I think if you get one of those weighted punching bags, and can punch hard enough to juggle it in the air, you can throw a punch pretty damn well.

angel nympho
04-11-2003, 11:10 AM
I've only had to do it once... I did good. The guy bled. :) But then again, I had a golf ball in my hand at the time......

Fireblade
04-11-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Apr 11 2003, 10:10 AM
I've only had to do it once... I did good. The guy bled. :) But then again, I had a golf ball in my hand at the time......
fighting dirty.... the only way to win a fight.

I LUV IT!!! :D

angelwiththesword
04-11-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by thaite@Apr 10 2003, 09:21 PM
http://www.wingchun.com/img/ym.gif
that looks like grandmaster Yip Man training someone in wing chun.

Napoleon Chynamite
04-11-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 11 2003, 12:08 PM
that looks like grandmaster Yip Man training someone in wing chun.
looks like a pic of the dragon getting pwned

angelwiththesword
04-11-2003, 01:10 PM
i once was able to punch a locker door off it's hinges.
it was neat, because it was all bent up and stuff.

my hand hurt for a while after that

Saiko
04-11-2003, 01:52 PM
I punched the wall quite hard last night, while it was still healing from the last time. Anger management, gr.
Anyways, the knuckles of my pinky and ring finger are kinda bruised and swollen. Fun.

AznYam
04-11-2003, 02:02 PM
i can't punch worth a damn. but im good at running.

himura-dono
04-11-2003, 02:13 PM
i got my amatuer liscense at 16, had 4 bouts (3ko's, 1 decision win [i thought the dude was gonna kill me]), then i had to quit to work overtime.

dang kim, i guess this is making me want to teach Cindy more than just how to throw a basic punch and make her learn some actual boxing punches. i'd feel safer knowing she could knock out a rapist if needed rather than rely on her fake gung fu (she knows a few stances, but nothing else). she already now painfully knows the best (worst) ways to take a guy down cojones style, but i think she'd benefit more from the boxing.

himura-dono
04-11-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Saiko@Apr 11 2003, 12:52 PM
I punched the wall quite hard last night, while it was still healing from the last time. Anger management, gr.
Anyways, the knuckles of my pinky and ring finger are kinda bruised and swollen. Fun.
now try with your head ^_^. i used to do that to the door and frame.

kimpossible
04-11-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by himura-dono@Apr 11 2003, 01:13 PM
dang kim, i guess this is making me want to teach Cindy more than just how to throw a basic punch and make her learn some actual boxing punches. i'd feel safer knowing she could knock out a rapist if needed rather than rely on her fake gung fu (she knows a few stances, but nothing else).
What? I'd get my ass kicked in an even one on one fist fight with a guy. I'd do my best to take out an eye and make him pay dearly for messing with me but even knowing how to throw a punch wouldn't make too much of a difference. Course, I'd never get into a one on one fist fight with a potential rapist or any guy on the street. Running, shoving my knife in his guts or ripping off Mr. Happy and His Friends would be on my immediate to-do list. Feel even better with a nice Remington 870 in my hands.

Boxing is just for fun. :dance: Unless you're Angel with the Sword.

hahahaha... how the hell does she do fake gung fu? All I can do is picture some Charlie's Angel shit or her bouncing around making Bruce Lee noises.

Napoleon Chynamite
04-11-2003, 02:53 PM
yea when it comes to self-defense, bullets hit harder than most things.

himura-dono
04-11-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Apr 11 2003, 01:50 PM

hahahaha... how the hell does she do fake gung fu? All I can do is picture some Charlie's Angel shit or her bouncing around making Bruce Lee noises.
she knows like 3 stances, but as soon as she does something else, it's totally like a 3 year old after watching a jet li flick. it's just funny :lol:

Adaon
04-12-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 11 2003, 12:10 PM
i once was able to punch a locker door off it's hinges.
it was neat, because it was all bent up and stuff.

my hand hurt for a while after that
Yo man, I give ya props and all, but.......DUH YOUR HAND WOULD HURT....... :rolleyes:

kimpossible
04-12-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Adaon@Apr 12 2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 11 2003, 12:10 PM
i once was able to punch a locker door off it's hinges.
it was neat, because it was all bent up and stuff.

my hand hurt for a while after that
Yo man, I give ya props and all, but.......DUH YOUR HAND WOULD HURT....... :rolleyes:
Well he's slowly working his way up. He started with ripping doors off hinges now. Someday he'll fly, shatter mountains and vaporize foolish mortals with his battle aura.

maldito
04-13-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Apr 10 2003, 01:56 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows how to throw a good punch. I mean a good, technical boxing punch. Not kick aerobics or Tae Bo.

I know how to jab, cross, hook and uppercut. I can do doubles and combos but I haven't for quite a while. I've sparred a bit in the past. But that's it. I don't know anything fancier than that though I'm pretty good at shadowing or matching steps.
Definitely not me. For that exact reason, I learned of certain points where to hit. But, it's like I learned it for nothing...b/c I really can't use it. Not unless my life was on the line.

CrX3183
04-13-2003, 03:04 PM
Join the marines, they'll teach you how to fight...

angelwiththesword
04-13-2003, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Apr 12 2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Adaon@Apr 12 2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 11 2003, 12:10 PM
i once was able to punch a locker door off it's hinges.
it was neat, because it was all bent up and stuff.

my hand hurt for a while after that
Yo man, I give ya props and all, but.......DUH YOUR HAND WOULD HURT....... :rolleyes:
Well he's slowly working his way up. He started with ripping doors off hinges now. Someday he'll fly, shatter mountains and vaporize foolish mortals with his battle aura.
bwaha!

*turns super saiya-jin*

angelwiththesword
04-13-2003, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by CrX3183@Apr 13 2003, 02:04 PM
Join the marines, they'll teach you how to fight...
i am considering joining the canadian armed forces general infantry

BeTheReds
04-13-2003, 08:26 PM
I've never been in a fight in my life.

Been on the recieving end and knocked out 2 times.

So no. I can't throw a punch.

Azn Retribution
04-14-2003, 01:42 AM
I think i can throw a punch... but my punches are more on the quick-side then really powerful.
I gotta be quick cause I know two or three good hits would put me down...
sucks being so light/skinny.

I prefer elbows and palm strikes cuz they dont hurt as much when I do them..

no formal martial arts training though.. just a year or two of taek-won-do when i was a lil kid..
been meaning to try and take classes though.

angelwiththesword
04-14-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Azn Retribution@Apr 14 2003, 12:42 AM
I think i can throw a punch... but my punches are more on the quick-side then really powerful.
I gotta be quick cause I know two or three good hits would put me down...
sucks being so light/skinny.

I prefer elbows and palm strikes cuz they dont hurt as much when I do them..

no formal martial arts training though.. just a year or two of taek-won-do when i was a lil kid..
been meaning to try and take classes though.
not sure of your ethnicity, but if you are Korean, and you wish to stay within the boundaries of your cultural martial arts, i suggest you take Hapkido, and not Tae Kwon Do, since tkd is just the art of flying around and landing in ridiculous poses.
if you are chinese, i suggest you take a martial art that is derived from tai chi. the internal styles are generally the best to try to master, but if you get bored easily, try taking wing chun or any shaolin style.
if you are japanese, i highly recommend kenpo. very versitle and the use of pressure point manipulation can make you a formidable opponent.

there are a few more, but i am too lazy to go on. PM me, and i can go into more detail in what you are interested in taking

himura-dono
04-14-2003, 05:05 PM
hapkido was fun. i was in the club at UCD for a year.

Napoleon Chynamite
04-14-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 14 2003, 06:57 AM
not sure of your ethnicity, but if you are Korean, and you wish to stay within the boundaries of your cultural martial arts, i suggest you take Hapkido, and not Tae Kwon Do, since tkd is just the art of flying around and landing in ridiculous poses.

blah angel, c'mere and lemme show you how wimpy tkd can be

:lol: oh well yea tkd has a bad rep *shrug* that's what happens when shit gets commercialized

angelwiththesword
04-15-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Apr 14 2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 14 2003, 06:57 AM
not sure of your ethnicity, but if you are Korean, and you wish to stay within the boundaries of your cultural martial arts, i suggest you take Hapkido, and not Tae Kwon Do, since tkd is just the art of flying around and landing in ridiculous poses.

blah angel, c'mere and lemme show you how wimpy tkd can be

:lol: oh well yea tkd has a bad rep *shrug* that's what happens when shit gets commercialized
i sat in on a black belt tae kwon do class once, i've been to tournements with mixed martial arts, and watched tae kwon do matchups, and about half my martial arts friends do tae kwon do.
i can pretty much start inprov'ing tkd stuff, and convince people it's tkd.

trust me. it's complete crap.

all my martial arts friend who have done it, and have switched to something else, have switched because it's crap. those tourney's that i went to; they were just pathetic.
i watched two tkd people hop around for five mins, the smaller one went to try to kick, failed miserable, and they both hopped around for another five mins.
those black belts i saw could more then likely be murdered by the intermediate students at my martial arts gym. it was really quite sad.

artsfartsyjanet
04-15-2003, 11:52 AM
i can break pencils with a swift one-hand karate chop and people would fear me.... *back in 4th-5th grade*, and I can pull hair like mad. now, I just put my index finger in someone's ear, and dig into their arm pit, and that usually does the trick.

Napoleon Chynamite
04-15-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 15 2003, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Apr 14 2003, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 14 2003, 06:57 AM
not sure of your ethnicity, but if you are Korean, and you wish to stay within the boundaries of your cultural martial arts, i suggest you take Hapkido, and not Tae Kwon Do, since tkd is just the art of flying around and landing in ridiculous poses.

blah angel, c'mere and lemme show you how wimpy tkd can be

:lol: oh well yea tkd has a bad rep *shrug* that's what happens when shit gets commercialized
i sat in on a black belt tae kwon do class once, i've been to tournements with mixed martial arts, and watched tae kwon do matchups, and about half my martial arts friends do tae kwon do.
i can pretty much start inprov'ing tkd stuff, and convince people it's tkd.

trust me. it's complete crap.

all my martial arts friend who have done it, and have switched to something else, have switched because it's crap. those tourney's that i went to; they were just pathetic.
i watched two tkd people hop around for five mins, the smaller one went to try to kick, failed miserable, and they both hopped around for another five mins.
those black belts i saw could more then likely be murdered by the intermediate students at my martial arts gym. it was really quite sad.
No need to inform or lecture me on the typical tkd-is-crap atittude.......funny u mention that b/c I switched from practical self-defense classes and kung fu to taekwondo. The people at my old kung fu kwoon kept talking about how their beginner students could waste and ruin the shit out of most tkd black belts....and I agree with that. Minus the testosterone-laden mentality among the members, my school was badass and we encompassed all facets of training including chi sao, sparring, forms, weapons, grappling and self-defense, etc....however I left because I felt that I wanted to zero in on certain aspects of martial arts training which could be more in the acrobatic or form-related range. I wanted to refine certain areas and return to more basic practice as well. After training for at least 3 hours a day and trying 6 hours for a few weeks and noticing that my body and health couldn't take it, I realized that I did not want to spend the rest of my life training to beat someone's ass. I went into taekwondo knowing all the stigma and reputation attached with the most popular martial art in the world. proficient taekwondo requires peak fitness, flexibility, and reflexes (which 95% of all tkd students don't care to improve upon because they treat it as a pastime), and there are also many divisions within the art including sport (usually what you are describing) and practical application. Most students of sport taekwondo don't even put up their arms while they spar, while people like me and you would only see this as second nature. Their kicks lack power and suffer from poor form or technique as a result of poor warm-up and training methods as well as not going through the necessary time and effort to painfully practice and refine their movements. It's because they suck and they don't train other than like the obligated one-hour class three times a week where they throw half-assed moves and attempts because they are tired from coming home from work, it's not because taekwondo is garbage. Fact is that taekwondo, good taekwondo, whether sport or practical or traditional, is fucking hard to excel at and most people don't have what it takes whether it be in terms of explosiveness, timing, flexibility, power, etc. However, another fact is that taekwondo is the most commercialized so therefore you have the most people taking it for fun so therefore they won't be as hard-core about it. Plain and simple, the vast majority of tkd practitioners worldwide are both poor fighters and poor athletes and are not conditioned or equipped to excel in either area simply because they don't take it seriously enough. Most schools in the US are powered by money-making mentalities as well. In my eyes, the art does not suffer in credibility if the students suck, if that makes sense. I have had exposure to a variety of different martial arts, modern or traditional, from Japanese budo schools to a quarter in modern wushu to that hard-core battered-and bruising kung fu school that operates out of a basement....and when it comes down to it, I'd still choose taekwondo *shrug*

If you are talking about practical self-defense application, I feel there is no one art that is better than the other, because practical and applied traditional taekwondo is just as deadly as any other practical art, but obviously if you are referring to sport taekwondo then there is no comparison because sports are not real life and therefore the techniques in sports cannot be applied to real-life combat. Even so, also you should take into consideration that martial arts is practiced nowadays for a variety of number of reasons besides learning how to fight, including health and wellness or leisure or fitness or fun. Those who practice for leisure will obviously pick something like taekwondo since it is so popular in our society, and these people will be half-assed. Those who practice for health and wellness or fun will not focus so much on application. Not to mention that you can be a good fighter and still be fat and out-of-shape, it doesn't take peak physical condition to know how to apply holds, gouges, grabs, groin kicks, etc, and all the most practical movements in order to make it out of a deadly situation. So how do you judge an art or a martial artist? You can't really because there are so many angles to it. A sport tkd'ist is in peak physical condition but can't fight his way out of a paper bag. Meanwhile, my fat overweight uncle can beat the shit out of him because he can just grab one of his high kicks and throw his ass to the ground. *shrug* However fact remains that it takes way more effort and dedication to become an elite sport taekwondo athlete than someone who takes wing chun for a month for the sake of practical application and can ruin any sport tkd guy's shit in a real-life situation. A sport tkd'ist, in order to make it into the elite level, needs to be unparalleled in speed, agility, and flexibility as well as power, however because of the rules he or she does not train for practical combat and therefore is restricted from kicking people in the nads, back of the head, back of the body for that matter, or applying strikes to the limbs. He/she is clueless when it comes to take-downs, grabs, wrist manipulations, arm bars, leg and knee and joint manipulations, eye gouges, holds, chokes, etc because they are not allowed in the game. All you need to beat one of these guys if they attacked you on the street is a good low front kick to the family jewels that I could train my grandma to do after a few weeks of muscle-memory engraining. For me personally, I train to the best of my ability physically (as many others do not) but I don't necessarily train for the purpose of self-defense, but more out of well-being, enjoyment, and to let out my pent-up energy.

Ultimately tho IMHO if you are willing to spend countless hours sweating and training for the sake of ur personal safety rather than other reasons such as spiritual or physical health (I'm not saying that you are, angel ^^), I'd suggest that buying some type of firearm would be more efficient and easier. However, you will probably answer with the notion that you are not just training for solely self-defense, but rather to train your body and mind and increase your tolerance for discipline right? So then I feel you should not judge martial arts (even those that may be more leisure or sport-related) by how well they are applied in real-life combat, but by how well that particular art tailors to your needs and reasons for training. Frankly if it's for discipline or health or fun, any martial art will do depending on who you are, your body shape and structure, etc. The degree of intensity, health, or leisure depends upon the person and not the art.

deez nuts
04-15-2003, 02:29 PM
my dad can kick your dad's ass.

kimpossible
04-15-2003, 02:33 PM
my pikachu can take your jigglypuff

Fireblade
04-15-2003, 02:34 PM
my gundam can take your go-bot.

angelwiththesword
04-15-2003, 04:46 PM
i respect your opinions of tae kwon do. i was just making my point on the uselessness of the art as a martial art.

it makes for a good workout, and it makes for a good competition sport, but in terms of actually applying anything that you learn from tae kwon do, it's really rather useless. ^_^

anywho, i see that i got you off on a huge rant, so, sorry if i offended you or anything.

personally, i tend to try to look for things that are as spiritually and physically healthy as they are applicable in real life situations.
a good example would be my sparring session with some dude who had no idea what he was doing, and was just improvising his whole way through. through his incoherent randomness, i was able to block about 85% of the stuff he was throwing at me, mostly because most of the stuff he was throwing at me was pretty predictable, and it had been hammered into me as an autoresponse. the other stuff that i managed to block was from a combination of actual application of training, and plain luck

actually, i recently (within the last year) started an internal style, ba qua chang.
the external hard power straightline stuff of wing chun was great, but i wanted something more challenging, yet applicable and effective.
since ba qua is derrived from tai chi, this further increases my training in discipline, mental and physical health.

anywho, i am going to end off now, because i don't want a post as bloody long as yours :D

Chris
04-15-2003, 05:02 PM
I can't punch for shit.

But kicks are another story for me. :)

Napoleon Chynamite
04-15-2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 15 2003, 03:46 PM
i respect your opinions of tae kwon do. i was just making my point on the uselessness of the art as a martial art.

it makes for a good workout, and it makes for a good competition sport, but in terms of actually applying anything that you learn from tae kwon do, it's really rather useless. ^_^

anywho, i see that i got you off on a huge rant, so, sorry if i offended you or anything.

personally, i tend to try to look for things that are as spiritually and physically healthy as they are applicable in real life situations.
a good example would be my sparring session with some dude who had no idea what he was doing, and was just improvising his whole way through. through his incoherent randomness, i was able to block about 85% of the stuff he was throwing at me, mostly because most of the stuff he was throwing at me was pretty predictable, and it had been hammered into me as an autoresponse. the other stuff that i managed to block was from a combination of actual application of training, and plain luck

actually, i recently (within the last year) started an internal style, ba qua chang.
the external hard power straightline stuff of wing chun was great, but i wanted something more challenging, yet applicable and effective.
since ba qua is derrived from tai chi, this further increases my training in discipline, mental and physical health.

anywho, i am going to end off now, because i don't want a post as bloody long as yours :D

yea usually I have noticed that internal styles seem to have the tendency to be more effective than hard styles in general but yet take much longer to learn how to apply it effectively

and btw no i still do not think that tkd is useless even as a practical martial art (traditional not sport) unless you are referring to watered-down money-making family and little kid-catering institutions that they actually like to call dojangs that plague modern privileged societies

do canadians use 'bloody' was well as the brits and the aussies? well if i can't annoy u with my super long posts i just hafta resort to canadian jokes :cry: :lol:

angelwiththesword
04-15-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Apr 15 2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 15 2003, 03:46 PM
i respect your opinions of tae kwon do. i was just making my point on the uselessness of the art as a martial art.

it makes for a good workout, and it makes for a good competition sport, but in terms of actually applying anything that you learn from tae kwon do, it's really rather useless. ^_^

anywho, i see that i got you off on a huge rant, so, sorry if i offended you or anything.

personally, i tend to try to look for things that are as spiritually and physically healthy as they are applicable in real life situations.
a good example would be my sparring session with some dude who had no idea what he was doing, and was just improvising his whole way through. through his incoherent randomness, i was able to block about 85% of the stuff he was throwing at me, mostly because most of the stuff he was throwing at me was pretty predictable, and it had been hammered into me as an autoresponse. the other stuff that i managed to block was from a combination of actual application of training, and plain luck

actually, i recently (within the last year) started an internal style, ba qua chang.
the external hard power straightline stuff of wing chun was great, but i wanted something more challenging, yet applicable and effective.
since ba qua is derrived from tai chi, this further increases my training in discipline, mental and physical health.

anywho, i am going to end off now, because i don't want a post as bloody long as yours :D
do canadians use 'bloody' was well as the brits and the aussies? well if i can't annoy u with my super long posts i just hafta resort to canadian jokes :cry: :lol:
canadians use a combination of pretty much every idiom out there, including: by jove!, cor blimey!, bloody hell!, bugger!, oy nutter!, and many other such explicatives.

i, personally, use many british exclaimation remarks. why? who knows ^_^

as for the internal/external, soft/hard power comparisons, it's very easy to bulk up the your muscles to have much strength in a punch. but in the end, your punch is only as strong as your muscles.
with internal styles, it teaches the manipulation of not only all the muscles and organs in your body to absorb and deal out power, but the energy (or chi) flowing through your body to destroy someone elses.
generally, internal styles take as much as ten times as long to learn as an external style.
wing chun is sort of half and half, as it teaches the manipulation of the physics of your own body to deal out power, but in terms of absorbsion, it teaches only the deflection of the force into a different direction away from your centerline, rather then taking the hit and letting your entire body absorb the hit, rather then that one spot, which is normally what happens.

you just PMed me on AIM, so i'll cut this short

Adaon
04-16-2003, 06:52 PM
my smurf can kick your snork's ass.

angelwiththesword
04-16-2003, 07:03 PM
KA-ME-HA-ME-HAAAAAAA

Shuriken
04-17-2003, 03:03 PM
can you throw a punch?

No, but I can throw...

• a fight

• a tantrum

• in the towel

• up

• caution to the wind

:D

CrX3183
04-17-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by angelwiththesword@Apr 13 2003, 10:14 PM
i am considering joining the canadian armed forces general infantry
You should have tried to join them... What made you not?

angelwiththesword
04-17-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by CrX3183@Apr 17 2003, 02:58 PM
You should have tried to join them... What made you not?
i said i was considering. i haven't said i am definately not going yet.

i haven't join, though, because i am still in school. i want to have a shot at my secondary school diploma. if i can't get it, then i am hopping into the recruiting office to register as a grunt.

if they allow me to continue my education in a military school or something along those lines, i will do so if i so choose.

chances are, i am either going to go career in the military, or i am going to do this until i am discharged, and then use this experience to my advantage in getting other jobs out there.

Deadpool
04-21-2003, 06:00 AM
I have an upcomming Mauy Thai fight in June.
I hope I can punch.
*crosses his fingers*