snotty ex-pat kids

[kimpossible]

So what's this all about? I've heard from more than a few people in real life and online that some of their first or only experiences with mixed race Asians were stuck up ex-pat kids in international schools. I personally met one or two and they were pretty nice (from the fancy international schools). The other mixed kids I met went to regular school, be it Japan, Taiwan or HK. Anyone else have different experiences?

[SunWuKong]

probably have to go on a case-by-case basis. but i would say that if the kid's family can afford to send him to international school, chances are that the family is pretty well off compared to the locals, and therefore it's probably more likely for him to become snotty, firstly because his family is well off, secondly because he's receiving/received an education that the locals look on with envy. another thing that might be considered is that some locals are bound to have an inferiority complex toward kids who go/went to international school, have overseas experience, etc etc. so the perspective that they're snotty might be stemming from that point of view.

[teaz0r]

i went to an international school most of my life.
the ex pats aren't really snotty, cuz their parents
worked for embassies/corporations that paid for
their school expenses. so unless the were the
ambassador's kid, or had the last name rockefeller
they weren't snotty.

the mixed kids that we had in our school, were mostly
from abroad, or had a parent working for their country's
govt, or a corporation. i don't think i ever met any local
hapas that went to my school. a lot of them went to
moschikat's school. her school had a lot of hapa's. but
none snotty i reckon. they were just good eye candy.

it's the locals that are snotty i would say. cuz international
schools are expensive. the one i went to, International
School of Bangkok was cost THB500,000 a year
(US$12,500) plus THB200,000 annual fees, (US$5,000).

so basically it's about US$17,500 a year.
keep in mind the average salary in thailand
is about US$500 (no typo, five hundred) a month.

so local kids are the snotty fucks.

the reson that international schools are so expensive in
thailand, is because they wanna keep local kids out, they
don't want to turn it into a thai school. from kindergarten
to fifth grade. i was the ONLY thai citizen that matriculated
in my grade.

[Craig]

Originally posted by pipSy@Apr 1 2003, 12:54 PM
so local kids are the snotty fucks.
Originally posted by pipSy@Apr 1 2003, 12:54 PM
from kindergarten
to fifth grade. i was the ONLY thai citizen that matriculated
in my grade.
:ph34r:

[teaz0r]

oh yeah. we were taught how to bribe people too when i hit sixth grade.
i'd bribe the guard with redbull and go smoke with my little followers.

and snicker at the kids that didn't have money to bribe the help.

i learnt great things at the international school.

[MellowDrama]

Half the people in my circle in college either went to TAS (Taiwan American School) or HKIS (HK Int'l School). From what my best friend (a hapa who went to both schools) tells me, they have their share of down-to-earth "normal" people as well as stuck-up snobs.

[teaz0r]

Originally posted by MellowDrama@Apr 2 2003, 05:35 AM
Half the people in my circle in college either went to TAS (Taiwan American School) or HKIS (HK Int'l School). From what my best friend (a hapa who went to both schools) tells me, they have their share of down-to-earth "normal" people as well as stuck-up snobs.
TAS! woo hoo. IASAS league.
tas boys are fuckin' hot.

but TAS doesn't let locals matriculate at their school innit?
like you can't hold taiwanese citizenship or sumthin.

HKIS kids are farhnee.

i love int'l school kids. i get along with them so well. third
culture kids.

[YuheiCarreau]

Hey, my roommate went to TAS.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Apr 1 2003, 06:19 PM
Hey, my roommate went to TAS.
Well... is he fuckin' hot like pip says?

[teaz0r]

the cutest boy i knew from TAS is Christopher Hwang, UC Berkeley '03

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Apr 1 2003, 08:21 PM
Well... is he fuckin' hot like pip says?
No.

He does have an enormous stuffed penguin with a 50-inch waist, however.

[d-boy]

not a hapa. hope that's cool.....

anyways, the way to tell if they are snotty is whether they always mention their "experience" attending international schools (sort of like name-dropping) in casual conversation.

it always makes my inner self laugh its ass-off when some punk says, "oh..i attended a private school in (insert random country name here). most "normal/un-punkish" people rarely mention it, unless its the topic of the discussion for some reason, as is the case now.

i went to ASIJ (American School In Japan) and NIS (Nischimachi Int'l School) when I lived in Tokyo. (ASIJ, yeah baby!)

a lot of kids thought they were hot sh*t. as someone said, the local kids seemed more snotty on average than the expat kids from the U.S./Canada/Australia/etc.

keep in mind that, also as someone said, most of the expat kids were middle class and not rich. rather, their father (or mother) worked for a multinational that picked up the school's tab, along with their apartment rent (very expensive in Tokyo) and membership in any local expat clubs.

funny thing is, despite that expensive education, a lot of my former classmates seemed to end up at crappy colleges in the U.S. (yeah, i realize that sounds snobby in its own right.)

[moschikat]

not a hapa either. . . but . . .

i had to go to an international school cuz' I didn't know how to read and write Thai, and my parents were kind hearted enough not to force me into Thai school . . . (aww i wuv mum n' dada)

plus, they didn't want me to pay attention to last names and rankings and things like that - which was the culture of the Thai society . . . (i think? Pips? is that right?)

<- is an airhead . . . anyway . . .

from my experience, i don't think the kids were snotty or bratty . . . and my classmates are (for the most part) pretty down to earth . . .

we DID get the occasional hoity-toity show off . . . . and that's when we would beat that person's ass down . . . *snicker snicker*

and yeah like Pips said - most of the hapa kids went to my school . . . lots and lots of good eye candy!!! and most of them ended up becoming models or pop singers :P

[Fireblade]

Damnit.. I wanna be in an international school. So I can date so and so model or pop singer. :lol:

I've met a few ppl who've experienced international schools. There's a friend of mine who went to ASB in Bangkok. She said that there weren't a lot of snobby ppl in her school, but eh, I didn't get much out of her.

So what has better education? The international schools or the local private schools?

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Apr 2 2003, 02:07 PM
So what has better education? The international schools or the local private schools?
Local private schools may tend to offer a better environment for studying, since usually their entrance is by examination, as opposed to international schools where all you need to get in is a foreign passport and cash up the wazoo or indentured servitude to a corporate empire which has offered to pay your kids' tuition, so you get a lot of kids who don't give a damn about being there and just wanna party.

However since the international schools provide the ideal environment for learning English, they're thus the route to higher paying jobs, regardless of actual educational content. It's really a depressing reflection of the mentality in many Asian countries ... translate something (a pamphlet, a list of traffic regulations, a school curriculum) into English and suddenly it's respectable, no matter how bullshit it was in the original language.

Hence, for example, in Malaysia, out of the boards of Dong Jiao Zong and all the other Chinese educationist movements advocating the continuation of mother tongue education for Malaysian Chinese kids, most of those board members have actually sent their kids to international schools and overseas schools, and some of them speak really shitty Chinese.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Apr 2 2003, 04:00 PM
Local private schools may tend to offer a better environment for studying, since usually their entrance is by examination, as opposed to international schools where all you need to get in is a foreign passport and cash up the wazoo or indentured servitude to a corporate empire which has offered to pay your kids' tuition, so you get a lot of kids who don't give a damn about being there and just wanna party.

However since the international schools provide the ideal environment for learning English, they're thus the route to higher paying jobs, regardless of actual educational content. It's really a depressing reflection of the mentality in many Asian countries ... translate something (a pamphlet, a list of traffic regulations, a school curriculum) into English and suddenly it's respectable, no matter how bullshit it was in the original language.

Hence, for example, in Malaysia, out of the boards of Dong Jiao Zong and all the other Chinese educationist movements advocating the continuation of mother tongue education for Malaysian Chinese kids, most of those board members have actually sent their kids to international schools and overseas schools, and some of them speak really shitty Chinese.
yeah that kind of gets me thinking. a school like La Salle in HK is very excellent. but a kid wouldn't learn to speak fluent english there. so what's really more important? i don't know.

[golden_buns]

I went to a local private catholic school for boys only, where all the rich sons of politicians, businessmen, etc, etc went. I have to say that about 80% of the people there were really snootty. I remember one time we were sitting at a park and decided to go to a friend's place (which was only 2 blocks away) to chill, so we started walking and one of the guys said; "why don't we take the car, are we gonna walk like the poor?"

There was also a french private school where the enviroment was pretty much the same as my school, except that most of the students there were french or lebanese.

On the other hand the canadian school, which was full of canadians and americans didn't have this enviroment

[BeTheReds]

At the school where I teach there is one 1/2 Japanese 1/2 French girl who I have never gotten the chance to talk to.

All the guys I have talked to think she is so hot, but I think she is average. Most girls consider her to be Japanese before anything else. She seems quiet, and basically is the only girl who doesn't sheepishly giggle when I say hi to her.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Apr 3 2003, 08:57 AM
She seems quiet, and basically is the only girl who doesn't sheepishly giggle when I say hi to her.
so it's true that japanese girls sheepishly giggle a lot?

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 3 2003, 04:22 PM
so it's true that japanese girls sheepishly giggle a lot?
yup

Even if you say something as simple as... HI..

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Apr 4 2003, 02:33 AM
yup

Even if you say something as simple as... HI..
wow
that sounds cute
yet annoying
what a conundrum

[d-boy]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 3 2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by BeTheReds@Apr 4 2003, 02:33 AM
yup

Even if you say something as simple as... HI..
wow
that sounds cute
yet annoying
what a conundrum
if they're pretty/beautiful, it's cute.

otherwise, it's annoying.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by dzoo@Apr 4 2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 3 2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by BeTheReds@Apr 4 2003, 02:33 AM
yup

Even if you say something as simple as... HI..
wow
that sounds cute
yet annoying
what a conundrum
if they're pretty/beautiful, it's cute.

otherwise, it's annoying.
no, it can be annoying even if they look good, if that's all they ever do or they do it too much.

[moschikat]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 4 2003, 12:04 PM

no, it can be annoying even if they look good, if that's all they ever do or they do it too much.
esp during sex.

*sigh* ;)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by moschikat@Apr 4 2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 4 2003, 12:04 PM

no, it can be annoying even if they look good, if that's all they ever do or they do it too much.
esp during sex.

*sigh* ;)
oh in that case that'll just be a turn-on.

do you do that?

[moschikat]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 4 2003, 02:00 PM

oh in that case that'll just be a turn-on.

do you do that?
:rolleyes:

*sheepishly giggles*

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by moschikat@Apr 4 2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 4 2003, 02:00 PM

oh in that case that'll just be a turn-on.

do you do that?
:rolleyes:

*sheepishly giggles*
can we auction mp3s of your sheepish giggle?

[MellowDrama]

Originally posted by moschikat@Apr 4 2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Apr 4 2003, 12:04 PM

no, it can be annoying even if they look good, if that's all they ever do or they do it too much.
esp during sex.

*sigh* ;)
especially if she starts breaking out into giggles after seeing your package.

:lol:


That would not be cool. :frown:

[Tao]

why do they giggle? is it cause they're attracted to you, or is it cause they think you're funny looking?

[YuheiCarreau]

For a westerner, giggling means "oh that's funny". For a Japanese person, especially a woman, giggling means "I'm embarassed / nervous".

[moschikat]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Apr 5 2003, 03:49 PM
For a westerner, giggling means "oh that's funny". For a Japanese person, especially a woman, giggling means "I'm embarassed / nervous".
either that or - "oh what a lame joke. i guess i'll just giggle so i don't embarass the guy."


uhm. truth hurts don't it?

and no mp3 files of me giggling. i'm low tech that way. :lol: