sleep your way to the top?

[teaz0r]

there's so many views on what's right and what's wrong. what's
appropriate and what's not. what do you believe in? how far are
the extents that you would take to reach your goal. whether it be
for school. for work. inside your own world, or outside in the real
world?

i totally think i'm selfish. cuz i think that in the end it's just me anyway.
everyone acts upon what wil benefit them most. like a friend on mine
said, cost benefit analysis in the humane sense.

i do what i have to do. to get where i wanna be. i don't know if the
world is fair or not. i do my own my own thing. at this point in my
life i don't care if i'm judged or not. maybe because i'm still young.
still naive about the world. but the things i've seen thus far, the things
i've been through personally, has fueled my beliefs to not care what
other people say. i'd totally use my femininity to get ahead. my sex.
i'll be quick and breezy. go for the kill. and take what i need.

where i stand today, i am proud of. not because i'm some woman
in a man's world. but because i did it. i'm keeping up with my
short term goals so i can hit the big goal. i will admit, i'll use
whatever means i behold to get what i want. my mind or my
physical self.

where do you draw the line? when it comes to getting what you
want. are there things you'd never do, or are you game for
anything and everything?

[sandra]

i don't know...i've thought about this before. e.g., what would i do if i had a client who i know is innocent on death row and i know that i could get her out only by sleeping with the judge. don't know what i would do. maybe tell the judge that i would, record conversations, then blackmail him?

[SunWuKong]

i would definitely sleep my way to the top

[sandra]

Originally posted by tazadar@Jan 27 2003, 11:05 AM
kasia, Won't you get dis-bar from that - you and the judge?

pipSy,
Do whatever you have to do - having sex with guys to get what you want isn't immoral - as long as you can live with yourself down the road. But, yeah, it is cheap.
many attorneys take actions that could get them disbarred. i guess an alternate route, in my case, would be to record him, take it to the state bar, and have him removed from the case.

yeh...actually, i don't think i could sleep my way to the top. i have this conscience thing where i feel like my grandfather is constantly watching me...

[kimpossible]

How about if I just sleep with a guy who is making it to the top?

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by tazadar@Jan 27 2003, 01:17 PM
You whore. Married him for money.
Wrong.

The term you're looking for is gold digger.

[sandra]

okay, what if the situation is this, though. say, a good number of women follow pipsy's line of reasoning and sleep with their bosses to get promoted. this may form an expectation on the part of male bosses. those of us who fail to meet this expectation, then, will be hurt.

so yeh...i think it's selfish.

[kimpossible]

Okay, an answer for real then.

In reality if it had to do with either keeping myself alive or keeping my family safe, I think I'd do just about anything and not really ponder the moral implications. Regarding professional development, I wouldn't rely on using my crotch or boobs [if I had decent ones] to get where I need to go. I'm not sure I'm so much morally outraged at the thought as it just wouldn't really occur to me to do it.

To a certain extent, I think everyone needs to present a pleasing version of themselves in order to succeed professionally. We wear ties, suits, dresses, makeup, groom, dye hair, get manicures, kiss ass, laugh at the boss's unfunny jokes, go to work parties we don't want to go to. There is a certain expectation we need to fill for the workplace. But... I think just plain out banging someone instead of working hard is a highly risky and messy way to get ahead. I personally don't care if someone does it, I don't think it reflects upon me but I think it's kind of foolish strategically. Just like many people have personal policies about not dating or screwing coworkers, or talking about politics at work - some policies are just more prudent.

[angel nympho]

I wouldn't. I'd like to think that, wherever I am, I earned it based on my own merits... second guessing myself would make me feel shitty about myself.

I have sex for fun, not money. I have sex to feel GOOD about myself, not like some nasty piece of turd. I pride myself on having standards. However low they might be...... LOL

[SunWuKong]

hmm
i tend to think that
if a guy was weak enough to promote a girl because she had sex with him
then all the more power to her

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 27 2003, 04:12 PM
hmm
i tend to think that
if a guy was weak enough to promote a girl because she had sex with him
then all the more power to her
That's weird because I just assumed we were talking if the boss was male or female.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 28 2003, 12:12 AM
hmm
i tend to think that
if a guy was weak enough to promote a girl because she had sex with him
then all the more power to her
If the boss was weak enough to give me a job if I slept with him/her, then what's stopping the boss from giving my job to somebody else if they sleep with him/her? Then I just had a random fuck that probably wasn't even good for no apparent reason.

If my boss was hot, on the other hand... that could be different.

[SunWuKong]

err... i don't know. i just wanted to show my support for women having lots of sex...

[VV o n g B a]

if u sleep your way to the top... or cheat or lie or steal then you are doing yourself and the company a disservice. why? because that achievement then becomes less meaningful (unless its something where sex is an integral part of it like politics maybe) and you are competing unfairly with others who cannot (if boss isn't interested) or will not (ethics or has a loved one) do what you are willing to do and that was not part of the job description.

if however, one somehow finds achievement in something like sex to get ahead and feels a need to get ahead at all costs, then thats fine. i can respect the determination if not the lack of ethics and personal sacrifice.

[blkazngirl]

Know too many that have and they have gotten some names for themselves (not nice ones). They reigned for awhile, but got kicked down. It's the ones that "earn" their way to the top, stay at the top.

[nonamerasian]

where do you draw the line? when it comes to getting what you
want. are there things you'd never do, or are you game for
anything and everything?

Definately not game for everything and anything.

If I did head down that road, what would I have to do to ensure job security, anyhow?

Keep fucking? Fear that if I refuse, I’m out?

Bad road.