he/she/he/she...

[MellowDrama]

Does anyone in your family or friends fuck up on using the pronoun he/she?

My parents still do that shit. My mom, worse than my dad, and she's been here since 1968 and virtually has no accent. It gets on my nerves sometimes. Yeah, yeah... I know, they didn't grow up w/ gender specific personal pronouns, but still...
:rolleyes:

[princess]

a lot of my friends do, but i dont really notice anymore. i think theyve had more of an influence on me grammatically than ive had on them cause sometimes i catch myself making THEIR mistakes rather than the other way around.

[Chris]

My dad does it all teh time. When you write it out it different but when you say it it the same. "ta"

[BeTheReds]

Koreans and JApanese do that all the time, but I don't understand why they do, since gender specific pronouns do exist.

I guess because it isn't important to say the subject of a sentence like it is in english.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Chris@Jan 23 2003, 10:29 PM
My dad does it all teh time. When you write it out it different but when you say it it the same. "ta"
Same here. I know most of them mean 'ta' so I usually ignore it.

[iris]

Yep, mum and dad still do it though they've been here since the 70's. If they don't care, I don't either.

[MellowDrama]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jan 24 2003, 01:15 AM
Koreans and JApanese do that all the time, but I don't understand why they do, since gender specific pronouns do exist.

I guess because it isn't important to say the subject of a sentence like it is in english.
I think it's cuz they just drop it most of the time, or at least in Japanese it's dropped almost all the time. Like who the hell says kanojo or kare unless you're talkin bout someone's gf or bf?

[sandra]

my mom used to do it a lot while i was a kid, but, being the brat i was, i just kept correcting her about it. she almost never makes that mistake anymore. it's cool, though, i probably make a lot more mistakes when i'm speaking chinese.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by kasia@Jan 24 2003, 04:08 AM
it's cool, though, i probably make a lot more mistakes when i'm speaking chinese.
listen to more LMF

[enygma]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jan 23 2003, 11:15 PM
Koreans and JApanese do that all the time, but I don't understand why they do, since gender specific pronouns do exist.

I guess because it isn't important to say the subject of a sentence like it is in english.
this is embarassing to admit, but there are gender specific pronouns in korean? are you sure? since i grew up speaking korean, i might not have noticed, but i don't think there are.

my dad gets our NAMES confused, it's bad enough when he calls me my sister's name, but my brother's? :(

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by enygma@Jan 24 2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by BeTheReds@Jan 23 2003, 11:15 PM
Koreans and JApanese do that all the time, but I don't understand why they do, since gender specific pronouns do exist.

I guess because it isn't important to say the subject of a sentence like it is in english.
this is embarassing to admit, but there are gender specific pronouns in korean? are you sure? since i grew up speaking korean, i might not have noticed, but i don't think there are.

BTR might have just mean Japanese. They exist but like MellowDrama pointed out, people don't use them very often unless they're talking about a boyfriend or girlfriend or a guy or a girl. It's not usually about he or she. Either you use the person's name somehow in some form or the subject is understood.

[SunWuKong]

ta is gender specific when written :)

<img src='http://www.chinalanguage.com/cgi-bin/char.cgi?4ed6.gif[/img] and http://www.chinalanguage.com/cgi-bin/char.cgi?5979.gif

[sandra]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 24 2003, 11:59 AM
listen to more LMF
they say bad words.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by kasia@Jan 24 2003, 04:19 PM
they say bad words.
you should too

diu lei loh mo hum ga chan

[sandra]

hey! right back atcha!

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I thought 'keu neun' is 'he' in Korean and 'keu-nyeo neun' would be 'she'...but that's just what ma teacher tells me???. But yea usually 'he' or 'she' is not emphasized or they just say the name of the subject.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by princess@Jan 24 2003, 12:06 AM
a lot of my friends do, but i dont really notice anymore. &nbsp;i think theyve had more of an influence on me grammatically than ive had on them cause sometimes i catch myself making THEIR mistakes rather than the other way around.
That's what's called the lowest common denominator. Whoever has the worst English (or whatever language) in your group will probably do more damage to you and your friends' English (over time) than you will help to correct his.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by enygma@Jan 24 2003, 02:15 PM
my dad gets our NAMES confused, it's bad enough when he calls me my sister's name, but my brother's? :(
Everyone's dad does that. Hell, I once called my father and started the conversation with "Hi, Dad!" and he said "Who's this?"... I said "How many guys are there that call you up and say 'Hi Dad'?!" :blink: (I'm the only boy in my family, for those of you who don't know)

[Napoleon Chynamite]

My mom is really weird...I don't know how she does it. She can have her back turned to me in the kitchen and when I used to walk in the door she could tell whether it was my dad, my brother, or me. Maybe she memorized our trudging rhythms or step patterns or sounds....i.e. when I come in usually there is the sound of me tripping over my bag and falling over my face on the stairs...etc.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Jan 24 2003, 03:10 PM
Everyone's dad does that. Hell, I once called my father and started the conversation with "Hi, Dad!" and he said "Who's this?"... I said "How many guys are there that call you up and say 'Hi Dad'?!" :blink: (I'm the only boy in my family, for those of you who don't know)
Maybe you have a brother you don't know about. :o

[lethal]

Originally posted by enygma@Jan 24 2003, 03:15 PM
my dad gets our NAMES confused, it's bad enough when he calls me my sister's name, but my brother's? :(
My dad calls me by my brother's name too :(

Otherwise, I don't think my parents mix up she/he...but then again I rarely hear them speak English.

[iris]

My usual phone conversation with my mother:

Me: "Hi Mom."
Her: "Who's this?"
Me: "Your kid mom."
Her: "Iris, Sister's Name, Brother's Name?" - all this without pausing or thinking.
Me: "The GIRL mom!! The GIRLL!!!"
Her: "Sister's Name?"

*click*

[lethal]

Originally posted by iris@Jan 24 2003, 10:40 PM
My usual phone conversation with my mother:

Me: "Hi Mom."
Her: "Who's this?"
Me: "Your kid mom."
Her: "Iris, Sister's Name, Brother's Name?" - all this without pausing or thinking.
Me: "The GIRL mom!! The GIRLL!!!"
Her: "Sister's Name?"

*click*
Man...I don't have the balls to hang up on my parents...but you don't have balls at all, so that probably explains why you can do that :)

[iris]

Hahaha :lol:

I no bad daugher. I call back in like a minute with "sorries sorries sorries"

Of course, when she picks up the second time, she's still going "Sister's Name?"

[applehead]

my parents have more problems, omitting prepositions when they speak english.
it's cute.

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by iris@Jan 24 2003, 10:58 PM
Hahaha :lol:

I no bad daugher. I call back in like a minute with "sorries sorries sorries"

Of course, when she picks up the second time, she's still going "Sister's Name?"
HAHAHA!!! that's so funny.

My parents still can't get their grammer right, and they've been in the U.S. longer then they've been in Thailand. I remember being in Thailand for 7 months then coming back to the U.S. and having trouble with english!!!!! It's a funny, funny thing. I got fobbisized from being there too long!