Who do you consider Asian ?

[Craig]

Out of the following groups, which ones do you consider Asian ?

North East Asians

South East Asians

Malays

Central Asians

South Asians

Southwest Asians

Mixed Asians

Siberians

Inuit

If I missed any groups, feel free to add.

[wylin]

I break them up

East Asians: japanese, red chinese, koreans, taiwanese, chiu chow, choisan, guandong ren, shang hai ren, mongolians, tibetans, machurians

South east asians: Vietnamese, thai, malay, cambodian, laotian, hmong(keys), mien

Russians/ Slavic: Okinawans (japanese held island)

Islanders: indonesians, micronesians, flips, tongans, guamians, samoans (tho these last few might be considered ogre's or giants)

Causian type East Indians: Pakistani, sri lankans, and indians

Arabs: west asian

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Uh, what's Southwest Asians? Other than that, I think Malays would consider themselves as Southeast Asians ... Dr. M certainly considers himself as one.

Personally, I'd consider almost all those groups as "Asians" (except Inuits) as long as people are clear this doesn't mean that they all belong to the same racial group. But when I say "we Asians" in my speech or writing, I'm almost always referring to Northeast Asians. I don't feel any special connection with a Pakistani or an Indonesian just cuz they came from the same tectonic plate as me, cuz their culture and race is completely different, and it's annoying to be lumped into the same category with them and hear people (whether whites or Asian-Americans) saying or assuming we all share some common interest and destiny as "Asian-Pacific Islander Americans"

[Craig]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Jan 14 2003, 03:26 PM
Uh, what's Southwest Asians? Other than that, I think Malays would consider themselves as Southeast Asians ... Dr. M certainly considers himself as one.
Basically, west of Pakistan and south of the former U.S.S.R. Central Asian republics. (Arabs, Syrians, Turks, Armenians, Georgians, Kurds, Lebanese, etc.)

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by Craig@Jan 14 2003, 04:31 PM
Basically, west of Pakistan and south of the former U.S.S.R. Central Asian republics. (Arabs, Syrians, Turks, Armenians, Georgians, Kurds, Lebanese, etc.)
uh sure, I don't see why they shouldn't be considered Asian since they're on our continent, but if anyone ever suggested forming a political coalition with them so we could fight for "issues facing APIAs" I'd laugh in his face. Also I'm not sure they consider themselves Asian. A lot of them are too busy trying to define themselves as the sole bearers of the Muslim identity (e.g. haranguing non-Arab Muslims for not knowing how to speak some dialect of modern Arabic, which resembles Quranic Arabic about as much as English resembles Saxon). Even redneck Americans realize the difference between Northeast Asians and South/Southwest Asians, though they often mistake South Asians for Southwest Asians and Southwest Asians for plain old whites (or occasionally, blacks).

[VV o n g B a]

asians to me are everyone south of siberians and north of australians, west of the inuits and east of iranians. not including the ppls and countries mentioned.

if i want to be specific, then i'll mention specifically which type of asians i'm talking about (east, southeast, south...)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Craig@Jan 14 2003, 04:31 PM
Basically, west of Pakistan and south of the former U.S.S.R. Central Asian republics. (Arabs, Syrians, Turks, Armenians, Georgians, Kurds, Lebanese, etc.)
i think they'd laugh if you tell them they're asian :lol:

[Craig]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 14 2003, 05:10 PM
i think they'd laugh if you tell them they're asian    :lol:
I don't consider that group Asian, but I have known others Asians calling them Asian. In my opinion, the definition is being stretched way too far in that case.

I remember once one guy I know (from Hong Kong) called a Syrian guy Asian and I was thinking "what the fuck?". It also didn't help in my mind that the Syrian guy had extremely pale skin, freckles, red hair and blue eyes.

On an additional note, I have known some middle easterners who consider themselves Asian also.

[angel nympho]

Whoever considers THEMSELVES Asian, I will too.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by wylin@Jan 14 2003, 03:21 PM
Russians/ Slavic: Okinawans (japanese held island)

Causian type East Indians: Pakistani, sri lankans, and indians
Okinawans are Russian or Slavic? Could you elaborate? Also, I believe a number of current anthropologists disagree with the theory that India was invaded by Caucasians.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

I always heard Okinawans were related to Taiwanese aborigines ...

[Chris]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Jan 14 2003, 03:52 PM
Whoever considers THEMSELVES Asian, I will too.
Agreed.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Jan 14 2003, 08:03 PM
Also, I believe a number of current anthropologists disagree with the theory that India was invaded by Caucasians.
really?
actually i'd like to read about that. do you happen to know some sites?

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 14 2003, 07:27 PM
really?
actually i'd like to read about that. do you happen to know some sites?
I'll try to scare some up for ya. I clearly remember seeing it on a BBC documentary while I was in England, if that gives it any more credibility.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@Jan 15 2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jan 14 2003, 07:27 PM
really?
actually i'd like to read about that.  do you happen to know some sites?
I'll try to scare some up for ya. I clearly remember seeing it on a BBC documentary while I was in England, if that gives it any more credibility.
no no i'm not questioning the credibility at all. i've just always been a little interested in the indus valley civilisation.

[kayla]

East Asians: japanese, red chinese, koreans, taiwanese, chiu chow, choisan, guandong ren, shang hai ren, mongolians, tibetans, machurians


red chinese?? what or who exactly are red chinese? i've never heard of that term before.

[BaiginLong]

red is slang for Communist
he's referring to mainland Chinese people

[contra_diction]

siberian, i don't know about that one... but maybe. how about eskimo, or did someone mention that?

[Craig]

Originally posted by contra_diction@Jan 16 2003, 04:55 AM
siberian, i don't know about that one... but maybe. how about eskimo, or did someone mention that?
eskimo => Inuit

[contra_diction]

o i c, that's cool, i'm learning so much here.