So who here actually knows some martial arts?

[thaite]

I hated that shit in school. "Where ya from? Hey, do you know kung fu? Let's see something."

Fact is, I actually do practice martial arts, Wing Chun (www.wingchun.com) to be specific, and have been at it for several years.

I don't mention it much. I really hate when people want a demonstration, or ask "What would you do if I did this? Don't hurt me" and try to throw a punch. Neutralizing oncoming force requires equal force -- my punch is gonna come just as hard as yours did.

So who here practices? Or even better, who here ever [i:cceae2f823]pretended[/i:cceae2f823] they knew martial arts when people asked them :lol:

[achtungbaby]

Refresh my memory, but what movie was wingchun popularized in...? I could have sworn it was from a movie.

The most I've taken was about a month or so of Hapkido.

[thaite]

That would likely have been Wing Chun (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6304852770) (surprise! :P ) with Michelle Yeoh, though I was into it before I ever heard of the movie.

[ImrkevinpakI]

I am taking Hapkido right now...high red belt for 7 years and soon to be a black belt.

[achtungbaby]

[quote:9405bb182b="buoywonder"]...though I was into it before I ever heard of the movie.[/quote:9405bb182b]

Yeah sure!

So what's distinctive about Wing Chun?

[ImrkevinpakI]

Wing Chun is kinda like kung fu form of martial arts. I think Bruce Lee has mastered skill.

[thaite]

Hmmm, what's distinctive about Wing Chun... I guess probably that has the most ugliest Kung fu forms ever. It's straight up about fighting, using angles, lines and small circles. There's nothing fancy or extraneous about it, it's distilled, essential and practical fighting.

It was Bruce Lee's second martial art, the first being tai chi, and he learned only two of its three forms. That whole flowing-like-water thing, that's Wing Chun.

[DaBestSpooner]

did anyone watch that thing on bruce lee on American Movie Classics, basically it was all the restored and recovered footage from game of death. there was scenes where bruce fought an hapkido master

[ImrkevinpakI]

[quote:cf645c0930="DaBestSpooner"]did anyone watch that thing on bruce lee on American Movie Classics, basically it was all the restored and recovered footage from game of death. there was scenes where bruce fought an hapkido master[/quote:cf645c0930]

So you're saying Hapkido is bad?

[ImrkevinpakI]

[quote:d8287f3a44="DaBestSpooner"]did anyone watch that thing on bruce lee on American Movie Classics, basically it was all the restored and recovered footage from game of death. there was scenes where bruce fought an hapkido master[/quote:d8287f3a44]

So you're saying Hapkido is bad?

[DaBestSpooner]

umm I think my question was quite clear, but to answer your question, bruce will kick anyone's ass.

[quote:031280e9ad="ImrkevinpakI"][quote:031280e9ad="DaBestSpooner"]did anyone watch that thing on bruce lee on American Movie Classics, basically it was all the restored and recovered footage from game of death. there was scenes where bruce fought an hapkido master[/quote:031280e9ad]

So you're saying Hapkido is bad?[/quote:031280e9ad]

[princess]

i know a few moves but that doesnt count since i dont actually practice it. my brothers and friends taught me. everything i know is from judo and kendo.

[ImrkevinpakI]

[quote:ba87e5e516="DaBestSpooner"]umm I think my question was quite clear, but to answer your question, bruce will kick anyone's ass.

[quote:ba87e5e516="ImrkevinpakI"][quote:ba87e5e516="DaBestSpooner"]did anyone watch that thing on bruce lee on American Movie Classics, basically it was all the restored and recovered footage from game of death. there was scenes where bruce fought an hapkido master[/quote:ba87e5e516]

So you're saying Hapkido is bad?[/quote:ba87e5e516][/quote:ba87e5e516]

Not true. He lost a couple of matches with Chuck Norris.

[achtungbaby]

http://www.geocities.com/oldschoolwingchun/

[CrX3183]

Howcome banned people could still post??? well anyways i'll soon be learning martial arts... Anyone have opinions on which type of martial arts is superior in any way????

[bigwong235]

used to take jujitsu for a couple of years. never got very far cause i was never too good with the rolling.

as for the "best" martial art... i had a discussion w/my friend who is at pendleton right now. he insisted that muy thai was the best.

[SunWuKong]

to the best of my knowledge, wingchun was the first kungfu style or martial art that bruce lee learned. he studied under one of the most respected master of the style. its emphasis is using the attacker's force against the attacker. when bruce later went on to develop jeet kune do, he criticized wingchun to be too flashy and not practical in a real fight.

[thaite]

Geeze, I guess I'm gonna have to diagree with you both... and Master Bruce.

Muy Thai isn't bad. Most fighting breaks down to punching and kicking anyway, and though the Muy Thai system is tough, it has limited techniques and a lot of holes. And despite what the movies show, high kicks are bad.

I'd like to see documentation of Bruce saying that. (Bruce studied under Yip Man (http://www.wingchun.com/img/ymanbcd.gif), who was by no means a giant, btw) In [i:bb3504f141]my[/i:bb3504f141] practice of Wing Chun, the art has never been flashy. There is no jumping, no high kicks, no spinning around, no flying kicks; just straight angles attacks accompanied by circular or spiral-like attacks. As the legend goes, Ng Mui, the nun who developed the Wing Chun (named for her first student) stripped the Shaolin arts to their most basic and fundamental motions in order to be able to quickly teach fighting techniques to the people in a time of revolution. I disagree, Wing Chun is not at all flashy.

[i:bb3504f141]And,[/i:bb3504f141] I've personally seen it put to use in three real street fights -- two involving a smaller person against a bigger, taller person; in one he dominated, the other he held his own. Thethird fight involved a person against two people of the same size -- and he kicked both of their asses.

I'm quite happy with Wing Chun.

[SunWuKong]

[quote:bcf2facf26="buoywonder"]I'd like to see documentation of Bruce saying that. (Bruce studied under Yip Man (http://www.wingchun.com/img/ymanbcd.gif), who was by no means a giant, btw) In [i:bcf2facf26]my[/i:bcf2facf26] practice of Wing Chun, the art has never been flashy. There is no jumping, no high kicks, no spinning around, no flying kicks; just straight angles attacks accompanied by circular or spiral-like attacks. As the legend goes, Ng Mui, the nun who developed the Wing Chun (named for her first student) stripped the Shaolin arts to their most basic and fundamental motions in order to be able to quickly teach fighting techniques to the people in a time of revolution. I disagree, Wing Chun is not at all flashy.
[/quote:bcf2facf26]

woh, i'm not trying to diss wingchun here. but it's pretty much common knowledge that bruce lee developed jeet kune do because he thought traditional kungfu was not practical in a street fight - which included wingchun. note again, this is his opinion, not mine.

and i don't know if the man himself used the [i:bcf2facf26]english[/i:bcf2facf26] word "flashy", but some websites have said that this is what he thought.

[mizkisses]

guys at my school have this thing for wushu...

[CrX3183]

There is no better substitute then the good old fashion way of fighty dirty...

[mizkisses]

anybody know anything about wushu?

[SunWuKong]

[quote:a595511acc="mizkisses"]anybody know anything about wushu?[/quote:a595511acc]


it basically means "martial arts" in chinese. this is now the official name given by china for kungfu.

[mizkisses]

[quote:f493fff3cc="SunWuKung"][quote:f493fff3cc="mizkisses"]anybody know anything about wushu?[/quote:f493fff3cc]


it basically means "martial arts" in chinese. this is now the official name given by china for kungfu.[/quote:f493fff3cc]

wow i never knew that. my guy friends would be like "off to wushu now" as opposed to my other guy friends who would be like "off to taekwondo"..

what's the difference?

[thaite]

[quote:3bf667b367="SunWuKung"]woh, i'm not trying to diss wingchun here. but it's pretty much common knowledge that bruce lee developed jeet kune do because he thought traditional kungfu was not practical in a street fight - which included wingchun. note again, this is his opinion, not mine.

and i don't know if the man himself used the [i:3bf667b367]english[/i:3bf667b367] word "flashy", but some websites have said that this is what he thought.[/quote:3bf667b367]

I wasn't jumping on you, and I know the reasons BL developed his own art. Let it be known, however, that BL learned only two of the three Wing Chun hand and food forms -- he didn't learn the entire system and he eventually had to improvise.

My reaction was incredulous because BL saying that WC was 'flashy' seems a bit ludicrous. If someone's got proof of that, then hey, let's see it.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Morientes@Aug 11 2002, 02:00 PM
Can someone please explain why Wing Chun is'nt useful in tournament fighting like UFC or Pride? As far as I know there have never been any champions that uses this style of fighting. As far as I know there also is'nt a JKD champion -- although this is a moot point since many would argue what JKD actually is: a fighting method or a concept of fighting?
i don't know much about UFC or Pride, but i know that they're not 100% free fighting. there are rules against certain nerve strikes or moves that are unfair. i know that many martial arts have no qualms about using nerve strikes.

but personally, i think in a real fight, you're more than likely to end up rolling around on the ground anyway, so i think grappling will be more effective.

[kimpossible]

Anyone watch that martial arts special on cable this weekend?

[Hanuman]

I've studied martial arts since I was 11 years old. My father was a pretty good Muay Thai fighter when he was younger, so wanted to make sure that I knew how to handle myself. He didn't have the time to train me so asked one of his friends to teach me Tae Kwon Do and Shotokon. Both are excellent stlyes, but I took more to the shotokan then the TKD (too flashy and impratical). Then in college I studied Aikido, which I loved.

By the time I was 21 I thought I was pretty bad ass and went off to Thailand to study. I had the opportunity to work out with some of the best fighters there....and I got my ass kicked royally. The worst part is, Thai people tend to be pretty small, but I'm pretty big for a thai person so it was that much more embarrassing. I know they have much better conditioning and all that, but it was humbling.

I now study Kenpo (Hawaiian martial arts), which I like a lot. I feel that it's more well rounded, having roots in Chinese Kung-fu and still having some aspects of other martial arts mixed in.It all comes down to which style best suits you. Some people don't have the endurance or stamina that Muay Thai or kick-boxing requires, or the flexibility that TKD needs, so I think different martial arts work well for different people.

[bluecollarjap]

Originally posted by buoywonder@Jun 28 2002, 07:24 PM
I hated that shit in school. "Where ya from? Hey, do you know kung fu? Let's see something."

Fact is, I actually do practice martial arts, Wing Chun (http://www.wingchun.com) to be specific, and have been at it for several years.

I don't mention it much. I really hate when people want a demonstration, or ask "What would you do if I did this? Don't hurt me" and try to throw a punch. Neutralizing oncoming force requires equal force -- my punch is gonna come just as hard as yours did.

So who here practices? Or even better, who here ever [i:cceae2f823]pretended[/i:cceae2f823] they knew martial arts when people asked them :lol:
i got that kinda shit too. when i was growing up, i didn't know anything. i finally learned a bit in the military but thats not real stuff i guess. they teach you the quick subdue and kill stuff, not practical for street fighting where the law frowns on murder. but am looking around to see whats out there to learn. any suggestions, (looking for some cultural aspects of martial arts, not being able to kick ass).

[thaite]

bluecollarjap, I think if you really want to get into a mindful and cultural martial art, Aikido is up your alley.

Hey, Tawee, what part of Thailand are you from? I was born in Udorn.

[Jookie]

I started studying Eagly Claw Kung Fu a couple years ago. I also took some Aikido in college but I really wanted to learn some Kung Fu since I am Chinese. Some co-workers asked me to show them some moves and I was happy to demonstrate. One good tornado kick was enough.

One thing that I have noticed though is that Asians are underepresented in competative martial arts. I went to an International Kung Fu tournament in Florida and out of about 300 competitors, there were maybe 20 asians. I really think that martial arts are an important part of our culture and heritage.

Cheers,
Jookie

[bluecollarjap]

Originally posted by Jookie@Oct 23 2002, 07:47 PM
One thing that I have noticed though is that Asians are underepresented in competative martial arts. I went to an International Kung Fu tournament in Florida and out of about 300 competitors, there were maybe 20 asians. I really think that martial arts are an important part of our culture and heritage.

Cheers,
Jookie
yeah i noticed that too. i visited some dojos and websites of places and you see all white people, even the instructor, nothing wrong with that, but would like to see some similar faces. also i meet white guys at work who are into martial arts, it creeps me out that they are so into asian culture, i'm afraid to go visit their houses, they might come out wearing a kimono and the house might be decked out in tatami mats. maybe i should be asking them for cultural advice.

[Jookie]

Originally posted by bluecollarjap@Oct 23 2002, 07:59 PM
also i meet white guys at work who are into martial arts, it creeps me out that they are so into asian culture, i'm afraid to go visit their houses, they might come out wearing a kimono and the house might be decked out in tatami mats.  maybe i should be asking them for cultural advice.
Yeah I know. One of the competitors in the beginner group with me was kind of odd. I was the only Asian in the group and he came talk to me almost with reverence. I think its cool that non Asians embrace our culture but it is wierd when it seems like they want to be Asian more than we do.

Jookie

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by buoywonder@Oct 23 2002, 07:28 PM
Hey, Tawee, what part of Thailand are you from? I was born in Udorn.
I was actually born here in NY. I've been back a few times though, the most recent was to be ordained as a monk (that tradition that Thailand has for young single men to be monks for a monsoon season, at least once in their lives.)

My brother was born in Thailand, but I don't think I could tell you where, but I do know it was a subburb of Bangkok.

[BeTheReds]

I play Tekken...


When I was a kid I tried Taekwondo for a year or so but it wasn't up my alley.

I don't think I am much of an athlete. I played v-ball in high school.

I suck at almost everything else.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 22 2002, 05:07 PM
I've studied martial arts since I was 11 years old. My father was a pretty good Muay Thai fighter when he was younger, so wanted to make sure that I knew how to handle myself. He didn't have the time to train me so asked one of his friends to teach me Tae Kwon Do and Shotokon. Both are excellent stlyes, but I took more to the shotokan then the TKD (too flashy and impratical). Then in college I studied Aikido, which I loved.

By the time I was 21 I thought I was pretty bad ass and went off to Thailand to study. I had the opportunity to work out with some of the best fighters there....and I got my ass kicked royally. The worst part is, Thai people tend to be pretty small, but I'm pretty big for a thai person so it was that much more embarrassing. I know they have much better conditioning and all that, but it was humbling.

I now study Kenpo (Hawaiian martial arts), which I like a lot. I feel that it's more well rounded, having roots in Chinese Kung-fu and still having some aspects of other martial arts mixed in.It all comes down to which style best suits you. Some people don't have the endurance or stamina that Muay Thai or kick-boxing requires, or the flexibility that TKD needs, so I think different martial arts work well for different people.
Impressive.

[Hanuman]

I'm glad I've studied, but sometimes I wonder if I enjoyed it so much because I was good at it, or because it was expected that I would be good at it (feeding into the stereotype).

I played hockey and I wrestled for a bit in highschool, but I was only mediocre, and I wonder if I had those same expections in these sports, maybe I could have been an awesome hockey player or gotten a wrestling scholarship.

One thing about a youth studying martial arts instead of tradional sports, is that he's still isolated from his peers. There's no homecoming, no cheerleaders, no Varsity Jackets, so if you study, you study alone.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 24 2002, 02:00 PM
I'm glad I've studied, but sometimes I wonder if I enjoyed it so much because I was good at it, or because it was expected that I would be good at it (feeding into the stereotype). ?
I played hockey and I wrestled for a bit in highschool, but I was only mediocre, and I wonder if I had those same expections in these sports, maybe I could have been an awesome hockey player or gotten a wrestling scholarship.

One thing about a youth studying martial arts instead of tradional sports, is that he's still isolated from his peers. There's no homecoming, no cheerleaders, no Varsity Jackets, so if you study, you study alone.
I'm thinking about taking up boxing again partly for self defense, but mostly for cardio. I lift weights 4x a week hardcore since 18-19 for the last 9 years. The cardio
it's getting monotonous (stairmaster, jogging, treadmill) and I wanna get even more shredded and cut aka burn more calories without being bored to death.

Right now I'm at 5'11 200-220lbs depends on if I'm doing cut or bulk cycle. My bodyfat % never goes above 12%. So I've been doing research what interests me is that new Israeli self defense style, the shoot fighting and the Gracie Jiujitsu?

Which one should I take to supplement my weight training? I'm not looking to be an expert like you, but I wanna get some training under my belt, in the process of doing my cardio. Been boxing since I was 15, but stopped when I started med school, but not sure if it's the way to go.

So basically I'm looking for what is most effective on a 2 day a week training and what is most efficient since my time is kinda limited. If I do this, I'm prolly gonna cut my weight training to a 3 day cycle, if I get too burnt.

Any suggestions Tawee?



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[angel nympho]

I took one class. I was bad. I cried.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:56 PM
I took one class. I was bad. I cried.
Which class?

[Grass Monkey]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 09:56 PM
I took one class. I was bad. I cried.
Hey, don't worry about it! You can always use others as a human shield! :lol:

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 25 2002, 01:47 PM
what interests me is that new Israeli self defense style,

You mean krav magaw? If I ever started up with any sort of martial art again, it would be krav magaw. Although arguably, it may not really count as a martial art. I believe it's not a scholar/warrior type of lifelong martial arts that stresses philosphy as well as fighting, it's more along the lines of geared to incapacitate a foe, nothing more.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Oct 25 2002, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 25 2002, 01:47 PM
what interests me is that new Israeli self defense style,

You mean krav magaw? If I ever started up with any sort of martial art again, it would be krav magaw. Although arguably, it may not really count as a martial art. I believe it's not a scholar/warrior type of lifelong martial arts that stresses philosphy as well as fighting, it's more along the lines of geared to incapacitate a foe, nothing more.
Yeah that's it. Some friend's are taking it and it kinda interested me because I saw J-Lo in "Enough" last nite. She was kicking ass and looked good doing it. What a bootay on her. Sorry I digress.

Incapaciting a foe is good.



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[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 25 2002, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by angel nympho@Oct 25 2002, 04:56 PM
I took one class. &nbsp;I was bad. &nbsp;I cried.
Which class?
Taekwondo, of course.

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 25 2002, 09:47 PM

I'm thinking about taking up boxing again partly for self defense, but mostly for cardio. &nbsp;I lift weights 4x a week hardcore since 18-19 for the last 9 years. &nbsp;The cardio &nbsp;
it's getting monotonous (stairmaster, jogging, treadmill) and I wanna get even more shredded and cut aka burn more calories without being bored to death.

Right now I'm at 5'11 200-220lbs depends on if I'm doing cut or bulk cycle. &nbsp;My bodyfat % never goes above 12%. &nbsp;So I've been doing research what interests me is that new Israeli self defense style, the shoot fighting and the Gracie Jiujitsu?

Which one should I take to supplement my weight training? I'm not looking to be an expert like you, but I wanna get some training under my belt, in the process of doing my cardio. &nbsp; Been boxing since I was 15, but stopped when I started med school, but not sure if it's the way to go.

So basically I'm looking for what is most effective on a 2 day a week training and what is most efficient since my time is kinda limited. &nbsp;If I do this, I'm prolly gonna cut my weight training to a 3 day cycle, if I get too burnt.

Any suggestions Tawee?
Boxing? Man, that's some of the best cardio you can do. I never looked into Krav Maga, but I've heard great things about it. Gracie Juijitsu is pretty good too, but not if you're looking for cardio.

Sounds like you're already in pretty good shape, I think Boxing might be the way to go with you. If you really want to step it up look into Muay Thai, or if that's not availible around you kick-boxing. Great cardio in both those places. You have to have great stamina to go even 4 rounds with someone.

I train at the dojo twice a week, the gym three times a week, and 1 time a week I study with a friend whose got a belt in Juijitsu, so we swap techniques. My weakest point is cardio too. I say all around boxing has got to be the best way to get ripped....

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Tawee@Oct 25 2002, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 25 2002, 09:47 PM

I'm thinking about taking up boxing again partly for self defense, but mostly for cardio. I lift weights 4x a week hardcore since 18-19 for the last 9 years. The cardio
it's getting monotonous (stairmaster, jogging, treadmill) and I wanna get even more shredded and cut aka burn more calories without being bored to death.

Right now I'm at 5'11 200-220lbs depends on if I'm doing cut or bulk cycle. My bodyfat % never goes above 12%. So I've been doing research what interests me is that new Israeli self defense style, the shoot fighting and the Gracie Jiujitsu?

Which one should I take to supplement my weight training? I'm not looking to be an expert like you, but I wanna get some training under my belt, in the process of doing my cardio. Been boxing since I was 15, but stopped when I started med school, but not sure if it's the way to go.

So basically I'm looking for what is most effective on a 2 day a week training and what is most efficient since my time is kinda limited. If I do this, I'm prolly gonna cut my weight training to a 3 day cycle, if I get too burnt.

Any suggestions Tawee?
Boxing? Man, that's some of the best cardio you can do. I never looked into Krav Maga, but I've heard great things about it. Gracie Juijitsu is pretty good too, but not if you're looking for cardio.

Sounds like you're already in pretty good shape, I think Boxing might be the way to go with you. If you really want to step it up look into Muay Thai, or if that's not availible around you kick-boxing. Great cardio in both those places. You have to have great stamina to go even 4 rounds with someone.

I train at the dojo twice a week, the gym three times a week, and 1 time a week I study with a friend whose got a belt in Juijitsu, so we swap techniques. My weakest point is cardio too. I say all around boxing has got to be the best way to get ripped....
Heh heh Muai Thai that's hardcore stuff. I'll look into it though. Prolly might just lean towards boxing since I have a foundation in that. Thanks for the 411.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Morientes@Oct 26 2002, 07:39 AM
boxing is a great workout for conditioning and overrall fitness. i like the equipment they use to increase your punching power like the heavy bag, as well as increasing your reaction time with the speed bag. it's also very useful for its practical application of self defence. the only problem i have with boxing is that the boxer is very susceptible to leg kicks, and also takedowns. a boxer needs leverage to maximise power in his punches but if he ain't got leverage then he's gonna be in trouble. hell, i'd even state that any boxing champion will have a hard time on the streets with one mean streetfighter utilising different techniques. being a world boxing champ means jack on the streets.

i guess the same problem goes - in terms of real life self defence applications - with other martial arts too: taekwondo for being all show and no substance; wushu for being a more flashy than helpful; karate for being too static. aikido for being too predetermined (do you really think that an aikido master would last 2 minutes on the streets?), and my martial art judo for not having any striking techniques -- it is a sport what do you expect?

however, in saying this, i still believe that boxing is the best form of fighting you can use on the streets since it allows you to have a good balance and range when unloading your punches.
Yeah man I loved the heavy bag and the speed bag. My dad boxed when he was in the army and kinda pushed me into it when I was young.

But back then, I was 5'11 150-160 more agile and I trained around that. Now from years of lifting, I'm 5'11 200-220, gonna have to make some adjustments. Prolly lost alot of speed, foot work and draw time on my punches. I'm hopping by my old boxing stomping grounds to see how things are. Thanks for the 411 also, Morientes

[Hanuman]

Yeah, there's a ton of street fighters out there who's never stepped foot in a gym, dojo or ring, who can whoop ass. Some are just good scrappers, and some just get their retard strength going.

But it's still better to be trained and be some what prepared, then to not have any training at all. As far as for working out boxing rocks, lots of endurance training and I still think it's great overall. The best punches get their power from your legs, not from your arms, so you need to have strong legs as well as upper body strength to be a well rounded fighter.

[deez nuts]

Bottomline, I give props to anyone who has the discipline to spend so many years perfecting an art. Whether it be weight training, martial arts, school, their chosen sport, tweaking cars, music, art, career or whatever they choose.

For anyone to constantly raise that bar to near perfection, got heart and dedication in my book and gets my respect hands down.



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[mrazntre]

I have dedicated my life to becoming the best YWMWS member that I can be.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by mrazntre@Oct 26 2002, 04:53 PM
I have dedicated my life to becoming the best YWMWS member that I can be.
And the prez of YWMWS!

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Oct 26 2002, 09:46 PM
For anyone to constantly raise that bar to near perfection, got heart and dedication in my book and gets my respect hands down.
Well said.

[BaiginLong]

nice thread but looks like it's been dormant for a while so I'll revive it
I think we should actually discuss fight mechanics now
I'll start off with the question of
what's the craziest move/combo (that worked) you were able to pull off in an actual fight/sparring match?

mine well
move: 3 hit bicycle kick to a throw with my legs wrapped around his neck
either that or the really nice right to left sweep (that flipped the guy around clockwise 270 degrees) to leading left double hook kick
combo:??? hmmmm I dunno but my main flaw is that most of my really nice powerful moves/combos has a leading right kick or punch
need to strengthen my left side definitely

[iris]

When I was younger, people used to come up to me and ask me if I knew or was related to Bruce Lee - the only Asian anyone ever knew back then. What the hell is up with that? Because I'm Asian I'm automatically part of Bruce Lee's family? They'd also do the "coming at me with fake karate moves bit" and ask me if I knew any martial arts. I'd say yes.

TaeKwonDo since I was 8 years old.
Six days a week right after ballet class :rolleyes: up until college.

Then in college, it was Wu Shu and JKD with an emphasis on weapons - specifically swords, staff/bo/kali sticks, whips, scarves, and knives.

Now in Hong Kong, I do........Tai Chi........with the fabulous geriatrics. It's so relaxing and fun. I also continue my weapons training here.

[SunWuKong]

i do Kik Shin Do
it emphasizes kicking someone in the shins and then running for it

[iris]

SWK, you silly fool! :lol: But somehow, coming from you, I can believe you practice it.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 05:00 AM
When I was younger, people used to come up to me and ask me if I knew or was related to Bruce Lee - the only Asian anyone ever knew back then. What the hell is up with that? Because I'm Asian I'm automatically part of Bruce Lee's family? They'd also do the "coming at me with fake karate moves bit" and ask me if I knew any martial arts. I'd say yes.

TaeKwonDo since I was 8 years old.
Six days a week right after ballet class :rolleyes: up until college.

Then in college, it was Wu Shu and JKD with an emphasis on weapons - specifically swords, staff/bo/kali sticks, whips, scarves, and knives.

Now in Hong Kong, I do........Tai Chi........with the fabulous geriatrics. It's so relaxing and fun. I also continue my weapons training here.
Wow not only can you bring home the bacon for me, HH and Karizma. You can also be the bodyguard! :D

[iris]

Yeah, I have a question about that. Why do I have to be the one that brings home the dough? Aren't you some kind of medicine man? And what are you doing all this time? :blink:

Look, I'm questioning your authori-tay already!! Sassy. -_-

[537]

Originally posted by buoywonder@Jul 1 2002, 12:11 PM
Hmmm, what's distinctive about Wing Chun... I guess probably that has the most ugliest Kung fu forms ever. It's straight up about fighting, using angles, lines and small circles. There's nothing fancy or extraneous about it, it's distilled, essential and practical fighting.

It was Bruce Lee's second martial art, the first being tai chi, and he learned only two of its three forms. That whole flowing-like-water thing, that's Wing Chun.
I was under the impression that Wing Chun was the discipline that Bruce Lee's father had encouraged him to learn first. That it was mainly a female form.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 09:49 AM
Yeah, I have a question about that. Why do I have to be the one that brings home the dough? Aren't you some kind of medicine man? And what are you doing all this time? :blink:

Look, I'm questioning your authori-tay already!! Sassy. -_-
It was deemed so by Da Ma aka HH.

Take it up with her.

I'm just a figurehead...Da Ma runs the da show.

[537]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Dec 19 2002, 12:45 AM
nice thread but looks like it's been dormant for a while so I'll revive it
I think we should actually discuss fight mechanics now
I'll start off with the question of
what's the craziest move/combo (that worked) you were able to pull off in an actual fight/sparring match?

mine well
move: 3 hit bicycle kick to a throw with my legs wrapped around his neck
either that or the really nice right to left sweep (that flipped the guy around clockwise 270 degrees) to leading left double hook kick
combo:??? hmmmm I dunno but my main flaw is that most of my really nice powerful moves/combos has a leading right kick or punch
need to strengthen my left side definitely
.....those combos sound like they're from a video game.


The best combo that worked for me in an actual fight was a reliable one-two.

Left Jab
Right Cross

The good thing about a lot of disciplines is that they teach you efficiency with fluidity. What's with the crazy Mortal Kombat Liu Kang bicycle kick if you can do the same with something that requires the least amount of energy spent and the maximum amount of work applied?

[iris]

Yah, despite all my training. I just go for a kick between the legs. :)

[537]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 07:04 AM
Yah, despite all my training. I just go for a kick between the legs. :)
:blink:

[iris]

Hey don't give me that look! You were the one who said "least amount of energy spent and the maximum amount of work applied." Don't tell me you wouldn't kick another guy between the legs. Well wait, would you kick another guy between the legs or is that considered breaking all guy rules?

[537]

That's TOTALLY breaking all the guy rules. I mean, c'mon! That's our DNA!

It's cool breaking noses and cheekbones.....but making their future children stupid is just WRONG!!!!

[Commando_turned_MD]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 07:04 AM
Yah, despite all my training. I just go for a kick between the legs. :)
Cheap.....but effective.........oh yeah, make sure your form is perfect. You want to look graceful when you perform the technique :lol:

[Commando_turned_MD]

Originally posted by 537@Dec 19 2002, 07:01 AM

.....those combos sound like they're from a video game.


The best combo that worked for me in an actual fight was a reliable one-two.

Left Jab
Right Cross

The good thing about a lot of disciplines is that they teach you efficiency with fluidity. What's with the crazy Mortal Kombat Liu Kang bicycle kick if you can do the same with something that requires the least amount of energy spent and the maximum amount of work applied?
PERFECT.....I couldn't said it better myself.......
:P

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 10:04 AM
Yah, despite all my training. I just go for a kick between the legs. &nbsp;:)
You know, I've seen people nailed square and hard in the family jewels and they still keep coming. If a guy is enraged or high, they might be able to keep coming. I go for the knee. Try coming at me with a shattered knee.

That's why mace and stun guns are overrated - if a guy is determined enough, you can overcome them. I've been hit with a stun gun before and it hurts like a bitch, but you don't drop to the floor convulsing like they do on TV.

I also never kick higher then the waist. If I want to kick you in the head, I'll knock you down first then kick your head in. That fancy stuff will only get you in trouble. The fanciest move I've ever pulled off in a real fight is a choke. I choked a guy out once after he came at me with a bottle. I came in tight to jam him up (he still hit me by the way, it really hurt), I grabbed with both hands the left side his sweater with the right hand under the left. Then I head butted him, as soon as his head snapped back I jerked down hard on his sweater until his head snapped forward. I stepped to his right and keeping my hands on sweater swung my left arm over his head. I pulled him tight and put him in a blood choke. That was a long time ago, it's been a while, since I've had to fight, and that's just fine for me.

Fighting sucks. Competition is one thing, but real life is crappy. A friend of mine has a scar that runs from his ear to his collarbone. He was hit with a bottle that broke sliced him on the way down. I'll be the first to admit that I get scared when I'm in a real fight. I believe you gotta put the guy out, cause if you don't, he's gonna come back and inflict what's called 'bodily harm' on you, and you're gonna resemble 'hammered shit'.

[lethal]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 05:00 AM
I also continue my weapons training here.
Ooh...swords! I :wub: swords.

I want iris to be my bodyguard.

Otherwise I'd have to use the SWK technique...Kik Shin Do. Lucky for me I've never had to face a real streetfight before. I've only thrown punches in anger at people I knew...and it was *real* anger...

[Monte]

I was the person playing the drum, cymbals and gongs for lion dances.

.....Okay folks, I'll just quietly mosey on outta here. :blush:

[iris]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Dec 20 2002, 11:03 AM
Ooh...swords! I :wub: swords.

I want iris to be my bodyguard.

Otherwise I'd have to use the SWK technique...Kik Shin Do. Lucky for me I've never had to face a real streetfight before. I've only thrown punches in anger at people I knew...and it was *real* anger...
I'll protect you with my lil 5'3 body Jet Li....you sure you shouldn't be using another avatar, like Wimpy McScaredy Cat?

:lol: Monte. We totally appreciated you Lion Dance people!

[Hanuman]

Lion dance? I love the Lion Dance. I tried to download a clip of it, but couldn't find any. Monte, you wouldn't know where I could find one do you?

[Monte]

Originally posted by Tawee@Dec 20 2002, 01:58 PM
Lion dance? I love the Lion Dance. I tried to download a clip of it, but couldn't find any. Monte, you wouldn't know where I could find one do you?
Tawee, I did a google search and it came up with lots of sites. Try other search engines as well. Good Luck.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&...ing&sa=N&tab=ig (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=lion+dancing&sa=N&tab=ig)

[Hanuman]

Yeah, I see a ton of articles on the Lion dance, or even a short clip here and there, but I was hoping for a full MPEG clip, I'll try kazaa. Thanks though!

[Monte]

Originally posted by Tawee@Dec 21 2002, 10:37 AM
Yeah, I see a ton of articles on the Lion dance, or even a short clip here and there, but I was hoping for a full MPEG clip, I'll try kazaa. Thanks though!
Got a camcorder? Are you living near a large Chinese community? If the answer is yes then you got all the footage that you can get your hands on. Tawee, hope you'll join a lion dance troupe and experience the excitement when they perform at grand openings and at Chinese New Year festivities. It's also a great way to meet chicks.

[pfc beansprout]

anybody ever do that shit? lion dance is TIRING....the dance itself is only 10 min or so..but hell...your back, arms, thighs, etc....kills; i did it last year for the first time, and i thought i was in decent shape..i was suckin air after 2 min of our first practice... :cry:

[Monte]

Originally posted by pfc beansprout@Dec 21 2002, 11:29 AM
anybody ever do that shit? lion dance is TIRING....the dance itself is only 10 min or so..but hell...your back, arms, thighs, etc....kills; i did it last year for the first time, and i thought i was in decent shape..i was suckin air after 2 min of our first practice... :cry:
Think about that guy who not only have to hold the head, but have to stand on another's shoulder! And lift one leg up and hold it there! Or how about the guy who has to support the one with the head! :o

[lethal]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 20 2002, 02:16 PM
I'll protect you with my lil 5'3 body Jet Li....you sure you shouldn't be using another avatar, like Wimpy McScaredy Cat?
Hi iris.

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by Monte@Dec 21 2002, 01:45 PM
Got a camcorder? Are you living near a large Chinese community? If the answer is yes then you got all the footage that you can get your hands on. Tawee, hope you'll join a lion dance troupe and experience the excitement when they perform at grand openings and at Chinese New Year festivities. It's also a great way to meet chicks.
I'm definately going to check it out this year. I have a friend of mine who is tight with some Kung-fu schools, and they teach the lion dance. I'll ask him about joining a troupe, it actually sounds like a good idea.

[axi0m]

Let's see, throughout my life I've done Shotokan, Hapkido, Judo, TKD, and now I'm really REALLY into Kendo. Kendo is my favorite by far, even though it's not practical. It's really quite spiritual. :)

-Satoshi-

[BaiginLong]

yeah I'm in fencing club at Baylor U

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 20 2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@Dec 20 2002, 11:03 AM
Ooh...swords! &nbsp;I :wub: swords.

I want iris to be my bodyguard.

Otherwise I'd have to use the SWK technique...Kik Shin Do. &nbsp;Lucky for me I've never had to face a real streetfight before. &nbsp;I've only thrown punches in anger at people I knew...and it was *real* anger...
I'll protect you with my lil 5'3 body Jet Li....you sure you shouldn't be using another avatar, like Wimpy McScaredy Cat?

:lol: Monte. We totally appreciated you Lion Dance people!
personally I like katanas better
I do Iajutsu and Kenjutsu

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by iris@Dec 19 2002, 04:00 AM
When I was younger, people used to come up to me and ask me if I knew or was related to Bruce Lee - the only Asian anyone ever knew back then. What the hell is up with that? Because I'm Asian I'm automatically part of Bruce Lee's family? They'd also do the "coming at me with fake karate moves bit" and ask me if I knew any martial arts. I'd say yes.
well believe it or not I did meet a member of Bruce Lee's family once and got into a pretty long discussion about some of the obscure details about Bruce's life and development as a martial artist
too bad I'll never see him again

and with the come at you with fake Karate moves bit heheh
I have a funny story for you

about five years ago
I think this guy was like pretty athletic and he did (surprisingly) a very very clean typhoon/ hurricane-style kick that i think he took from the old school version Power Rangers with Tommy as the green ranger (yes long long time ago I watched it)

he would've been on target too...if I hadn't calmly bent backward and tapped his non-kicking leg with my right foot and sent him crashing to the floor :D

me = evil

[537]

*cough*

[axi0m]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Dec 31 2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by iris@Dec 20 2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by lethalweapon@Dec 20 2002, 11:03 AM
Ooh...swords! I :wub: swords.

I want iris to be my bodyguard.

Otherwise I'd have to use the SWK technique...Kik Shin Do. Lucky for me I've never had to face a real streetfight before. I've only thrown punches in anger at people I knew...and it was *real* anger...
I'll protect you with my lil 5'3 body Jet Li....you sure you shouldn't be using another avatar, like Wimpy McScaredy Cat?

:lol: Monte. We totally appreciated you Lion Dance people!
personally I like katanas better
I do Iajutsu and Kenjutsu
Kenjutsu eh? How's that goin for ya? I'm kind of interested in it, but I prefer to focus only on the sword, and not mess with anything else to get in the way. :)

-Satoshi-

[BaiginLong]

Kenjutsu can bve described as the more practical form of Kendo with less focus on art
Iajutsu is the same for Iado
Jujitsu/jujutsu :: Judo
some of the other Japanese ones such as karatedo, aikido, etc. don't seem to have those counterparts
someone wanna correct me cause I hoping I'm wrong
I've been ragging for ages on Karate (but not Kempo Karate) but I was hoping that it has a stronger counterpart

[tvbdude]

I've been learning Shaolin Long Fist for half a year now

[BaiginLong]

know any animal forms?

[Green_Circle]

A girl back in college days was showing me some of her aikido moves. I love that stuff it looks so nice when you see Steven Segal doing those flipping moves. Anyway the girl would bend my little pinky and lead me around like a helpless little baby. It is extremely painful to have your little pinky yanked and pulled like that; so painful that you would try to go in the direction that they wanted you to go. So painful that you'd try to go faster than them to alleviate the pain. So actually I was the one who was literally flipping myself all over the place to prevent myself from feeling pain. It was just like in the movies except I was the villain being thrown around like a baby by a 100 lb girl. It was totally real. My friends were cracking up but it wasn't funny. Hurt like a mofo.

:pissed:

[moschikat]

i made a boy cry in tae kwon do . . . the parents had me removed . . . so aikido since i was 15. . . . :dance:

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I got kicked in the nuts in the middle of one of my kung fu classes back in the day by this one girl. After that, I always held the heavy bag over my awesome possum. I don't give a @#$%#, I'd rather take a face shot. :ph34r:

[purezero]

I took Tae Kwon Do! My instructor gipped me of my brown belt with a black stripe. GRR! :angry: HYAH! :ph34r:

[mr. x]

it was kinda cool, at my high school this chinese dude (kinda nice but deliquentish) and his hardcore korean girlfriend did tae kwon do stuff

[DonDaBomb2]

I have a black belt in Tae Kwon Do, but I'd prolly pull a groin or something if I tried to do any kicks now.

[teaz0r]

thai kickboxing since i was a little girl
trained at the camp my father comissioned.

not to serious. never fought. cuz girls aren't
allowed to fight in the thai kickboxing ring.
it's only for men. apparently my vagina will
de-sacredize the ring.

it's fun. i dun do much now. v. out of shape.
but i still got some teensy moves left.

took aikido for one day. it hurt me. so i
took ballroom dancing instead.

[Korean Hunk]

I have black belts in Haiku and Orogami!

[teaz0r]

Originally posted by Korean Hunk@Mar 4 2003, 12:56 AM
I have black belts in Haiku and Orogami!
what's orogami?

-_-

[Korean Hunk]

Originally posted by pipSy@Mar 3 2003, 10:05 AM
what's orogami?

-_-
It's a combo of sexuality and building paper swans!

[BaiginLong]

ahh here's the old MA thread
who wants to merge for me?