Complex's 50 most racist movies

[SunWuKong]

http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies/the-love-guru

Complex Magazine compiled a list of 50 most racist movies, and ranked Breakfast At Tiffany's at #1. I don't agree that some of the movies they put in the list is racist, but there are definitely more than a few that I agree with. some notables include Soul Man ranked at #3 and Sixteen Candles at #5.

[monkeygone2]

Was that list really from Complex Magazine?? I'm shocked. I thought it was going to be a fake sarcastic list, but it wasn't.

I don't agree with Gremlins being on the list.

And it's been a while, but Falling Down is much more complex than it seems.

IMO, these movies could've been replaced with any number of Woody Allen films containing minority characters.

[drydem]

http://best.complex.com/lists/The-50-Most-Racist-Movies/the-love-guru

Complex Magazine compiled a list of 50 most racist movies, and ranked Breakfast At Tiffany's at #1. I don't agree that some of the movies they put in the list is racist, but there are definitely more than a few that I agree with. some notables include Soul Man ranked at #3 and Sixteen Candles at #5.

I don't think the following are really that mean spirited and racist

47. Big Trouble in Little China -
46. Gremlins
41. Romeo Must Die

There are alot worst out there that deserve to be avoided.
I agree that the following are racially abusive.

35 Gung Ho plays to the general Japan-phobia
in the USA in the same vein as the movie Bad News Bears in Japan
North Korea-phobia spawns the James Bond movie
Die another Day(2002)
in am surprised that Borat(2006) wasnot on the list.


I agree that the following were casted
with racial biase.

32 Dragonball Evolution and
30 21

other movies that replace asian protagonist with white actors
or yellow face them include
Starship Trooper
all the Charlie Chan films
all the Mr.Moto films (Peter Lorre is Kentaro Moto)
The thousand faces of Mr Li

I agree that the following listed movies
propagate negative anti asian racist stereotypes

5 Sixteen Candles - asian foriegn exchange student stereotype
1 Breakfast at Tiffany's - Mickey Rooney's character

Additional movies that propagate negative anti-asian racist
stereotypes include...

The Mask of Fu Manchu (1932) and all the following Fu Manchu
film series- sinster evil asian man stereotype
Broken Blossum(1919) - horney chinese man stereotype is yellowfaced.
Kung Pow (2002) - white guy lampoon asian martial arts in this series.
Balls of Fury(2007) ... whites have fun with asians
Norbit(2007) - Eddie Murphy yellow faces Mr. Wong and gets it all wrong
Flash Gordan Conquers the Universe (1940) and every other
flash gordon movie afterwards - Merciless Ming is a white guy
dressup to looks asian badass

Every world war II Pacific Theater movie before the Bridge over the River Kwai (1957)- portrayed Japanese soldier as uniformly monsters and
chinese as ignorant helpless coolies.

The following movie glorifies racism
-----------------
Birth of a Nation(1915)- which portrays the KKK as heroes.

[monkeygone2]

re: Gung Ho

I was going to make fun of you for comparing this movie to Bad News Bears In Japan, but I'm busy laughing, as I remember the subplot of Kelly dating the geisha.

Gung Ho is not anti Japanese. In many ways, the Japanese families were shown as the sympathetic characters.
There are the ususal culture gags.
The main crime is, the Japanese engineers (with the exception of Gedde Watanabe) are one-dimensional characters.

And Balls Of Fury made me laugh.

[Banana]

I don't find Big Trouble in Little China to be as racist as people make it out to be. The primary reason is because the lead white "hero" is constantly the one being saved by the Asian sidekick. Additionally, he's the fish out of water, not the Chinese people that surround him which makes him the butt of all the jokes.

[drydem]

re: Gung Ho

I was going to make fun of you for comparing this movie to Bad News Bears In Japan, but I'm busy laughing, as I remember the subplot of Kelly dating the geisha.

Gung Ho is not anti Japanese.

I didn't mean that Gung Ho Was anti-Japanese
but that its comedy and storyline played on
the common japanese-phobia in the USA at the time.

Gung Ho was made when many Americans
were thinking Japan would over take the USA
as a world leader in finance and manufacturing.
Japanese Cars were taking a bigger chunk of
the USA automarket and Congress was threatening
to restrict the import of Japanese cars in the
USA. Japanese automakers were only able to
advert import quotas by promising to setup
factories in the USA and buying parts from USA
subcontractors.

The Bad New bears in Japan was made at the
time when Japanese Baseball players in the
National Baseball League was still a novelty
and when asian little league teams were banned
from playing against USA teams because of
the risk that the asian little league teams
would beat the American little league teams
at what was considered by most Americans
an National game. IIRC - the asian phobia
started when a Taiwanese little league team
beat the pants off an American little league
team for a world championship.

[monkeygone2]

I didn't mean that Gung Ho Was anti-Japanese
but that its comedy and storyline played on
the common japanese-phobia in the USA at the time.


"Anti-Japanese" and "Japanese-phobia" are the same thing.

The movie exposed the automarket Japan-bashing sentiment of the 80's.
In the end, the Japanese and Americans worked as a team.

The Bad New bears in Japan ..... (insert usual long-winded post)

Um....It's The Bad News Bears.
Japan's at the bottom of the list, when it came to offensive dialogue, uttered from a 9 yr old character.

[drydem]

"Anti-Japanese" and "Japanese-phobia" are the same thing.

The movie exposed the automarket Japan-bashing sentiment of the 80's.
In the end, the Japanese and Americans worked as a team.



Um....It's The Bad News Bears.
Japan's at the bottom of the list, when it came to offensive dialogue, uttered from a 9 yr old character.

Japanese phobia and Anti-Japanese are not the same.

Fear is not the same thing as hate.

I remember the 1980s....

With Anti-Japanese - everything the Japanese is bad -
people hated the japanese and wanted them destroyed.
With Japanese-Phobia - some things the Japanese are doing
are good but people fear that the Japanese culture and society
will overwhelm them. For example, in the WWII everything
japanese is bad and needed to be supressed.
In the 1980s, People love japanese technology
and cars but fear Japanese technology and cars will make
our own technology and cars obsolete. Instead of
of saying the Japanese are evil, people are asking
why are the Japanese doing to be successful
that Americans are not? What can I learn from
them what can I emulate from them without losing
my American identity? Japanese phobia in the
1980s was basically part of an American Identity
crisis - hit by high oil prices and then inflationary
spiral that even Reagonics failed to fix. It was only
when Paul Volcker lead the Fed to raise interest
rates very high to curb growth and basically force
the USA into a recession that the inflationary
spiral ended at the end of Reagan Administration.
That's why when people see Volcker next to Obama
they get the chilly willies - because Volcker is more
likely than anyone else to advocate raising
prime rates to save the banks and stop any
inflationary trend - which of course could mean
a recession or depression (depending on whether
you are the one out of a job or not).

[tokimeki aznguy]

I remember the 80s too, but I was just a little kid back then. I think that Asians that grew up in the 80s kind of developed an Asian inferiority complex partly because of the media and the way the culture was back then.

[eos]

I grew up in the 80s and I have NO inferiority complex.

Try again.

[monkeygone2]

Japanese phobia and Anti-Japanese are not the same....................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment

Anti-Japanese sentiment involves hatred, grievance, distrust, dehumanization, intimidation, fear, hostility, and/or general dislike of the Japanese people as ethnic or national group, Japan, Japanese culture, and/or anything Japanese. Sometimes the term Japanophobia is also used.

[drydem]

I remember the 80s too, but I was just a little kid back then. I think that Asians that grew up in the 80s kind of developed an Asian inferiority complex partly because of the media and the way the culture was back then.

During the 1960s to the 1980s, there was still
many Asian Americans who wanted to assimilate
and be as Americanized as possible. It was the
"in" thing to do. It was more the pursuit of the
"American Dream" rather than hating everything
Asian. It was about the 1990s that
asian-americans started questioning whether
everything in the "American Dream" was right
for them. It's also when the concept of
multiculturalism started ( Neo-cons who need
to go to the toilet to barf should do so now);
If you look at Japanese Anime - there was this
I wanna be just like Uncle Sam feeling even
in Japan. However, overtime - that kind of
euphoria of everything American has died down
- a new type of cultural realism started to
take over as economic globalization took root.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment

Anti-Japanese sentiment involves hatred, grievance, distrust, dehumanization, intimidation, fear, hostility, and/or general dislike of the Japanese people as ethnic or national group, Japan, Japanese culture, and/or anything Japanese. Sometimes the term Japanophobia is also used.


You should not use wikipedia as the end of your search
but only as the beginning of your search. I find it
amusing that you cannot differentiate two different
emotions. I've experience both hate and fear.
Given the lesser of two evils - I'd rather be feared
than hated.

Hate and fear are two different emotions - While
those who are emotionally troubled may have
problems differentiating them. Persons in control
of their emotions are able to differentiate a phobia
which is a fear of things with racial hatred which
is not fear but disgust and hostility of an ethnic
racial grouping.

[monkeygone2]

You should not use wikipedia as the end of your search
but only as the beginning of your search. I find it
amusing that you cannot differentiate two different
emotions. I've experience both hate and fear.
Given the lesser of two evils - I'd rather be feared
than hated.

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Are you on any meds, dipshit? I was using wikipedia to get you back on track.

Let's try again:
* The conversation in this thread was never about the definitions of "hate" and "fear".
* The conversation in this thread was about the Japan bashing phenomenon of the 80's.

Think: Vincent Chin's murder and the 80's automobile industry.

[monkeygone2]

I find it
amusing that you cannot differentiate two different
emotions.

Drydem, I usually don't read your lengthy comments. But if I do, I only read the 1st sentence of every paragraph in your posts.
For some reason, I just read your entire comment.

You're hung up on "anti" and "phobic" and I don't know why.
WW2 era yellow peril propaganda spread fear, which fostered hate. You can't have one w/out the other.

I find it strange that an Asian American person (or minority, in general) does not know this.

[applehead]

you guys notice how i stopped writing my posts THAT manner. i never knew it was so annoying to read.

During the 1960s to the 1980s, there was still
many Asian Americans who wanted to assimilate
and be as Americanized as possible. It was the
"in" thing to do. It was more the pursuit of the
"American Dream" rather than hating everything
Asian. It was about the 1990s that
asian-americans started questioning whether
everything in the "American Dream" was right
for them. It's also when the concept of
multiculturalism started ( Neo-cons who need
to go to the toilet to barf should do so now);
If you look at Japanese Anime - there was this
I wanna be just like Uncle Sam feeling even
in Japan. However, overtime - that kind of
euphoria of everything American has died down
- a new type of cultural realism started to
take over as economic globalization took root.




You should not use wikipedia as the end of your search
but only as the beginning of your search. I find it
amusing that you cannot differentiate two different
emotions. I've experience both hate and fear.
Given the lesser of two evils - I'd rather be feared
than hated.

Hate and fear are two different emotions - While
those who are emotionally troubled may have
problems differentiating them. Persons in control
of their emotions are able to differentiate a phobia
which is a fear of things with racial hatred which
is not fear but disgust and hostility of an ethnic
racial grouping.

you're totally hung up on semantics! omg. think about what results as the outcome of those two "different" emotions. AUGH. the end result. not what the actual meaning of the words are.

[cloudzero]

why isnt kill bill on the list?

[BillBlythe]

I'd probably throw in Red Doors for being unintentionally racist. Or at the very least racially insulting.

[monkeygone2]

From Paris with Love

John Travolta & Jonathon Rhys-Meyers infiltrate the Parisian hideout of a Chinese drug ring.
They shoot Chinese dudes.
Rhys-Meyers asks, “How many more of them are there?”
Travolta replies, “By census, about a billion.”

Wasnt that funny? Especially, with the current xenophobic/racial tensions in France?

And to the women who are in love with Rhys-Meyers (seems like 90% of the female population), remember, police were called when he allegedly punched his teen British-Asian heiress girlfriend.

[applehead]

he was dating a teenager?!

[monkeygone2]

^ Yes. And when the cops questioned him (for beating her up), he claimed she assaulted him first.

[applehead]

what the... Obviously I'm not as up-to-date with entertainment gossip as I thought. That totally killed the awesome image I had of him!

[monkeygone2]

^ Why do all you women have this image of him? I needs to know!!

The first movie I saw Rhys-Meyers in was Bend It, and I wanted to punch him in the face.

[applehead]

He always has this serious, guarded face on but in interviews he's so witty and well-mannered and pretty warm. I know the answers are probably rehearsed but... and he looks like the tough guy but his eyes look. I don't know.
He's a great actor so who knows what he is like really? And he sings! Pretty well.
but now he's Just someone who hit a young girl. It's strange how one single incident can change your view of someone.

[eos]

It's his accent.

And oh yeah, he's pretty damn fine.

BUT if he really, without a doubt, hand-on-the-bible punch his gf, then he ain't fine no more.

[mr. x]

There's also a part into the movie where him and travolta are having a pleasant conversation with his girlfriend and an attractive "paki" woman. (spoilers, though it's not a terribly great movie so whatever) She gets a phone call, says "no (name) is not there" and travolta blows her head off since it was a code word indicating she was a terrorist. I'm still a little appalled by it. I mean yeah in the narrative everyone suspected of being bad was bad but it really is just terrible hackwork