Craigslist Analysis of a Gold Digger

[snailpoo]

This has been making the email rounds recently, and given the recent threads talking about THIS (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showpost.php?p=522801&postcount=57) amd THAT (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?p=523040#post523040), I thought I'd post it here.

The Craigslist ad:

THIS APPEARED ON CRAIG'S LIST
What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my
feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east
side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

And the answer:


I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a cr@ppy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful" as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way. Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

[AngryABCGirl]

hahahahaha

[Pookie_gal]

Lol :biggrin:

[cloudzero]

ill exchange my $500k dollar bill into singles and spend them in a strip club thank you very much

[SunWuKong]

a million a year is middle class in NYC?

[VV o n g B a]

as of 2005 it's $100k a yr in manhattan.
http://nyjobsource.com/manhattansalaries.html

[LaiSteve66]

0w3nd

[applehead]

she has the critical thinking capabilities
of a rock.

[mr. x]

a million a year is middle class in NYC?

The way she sees it, after paying for a parking space (at least 250k) and "rent" for a place on the upper eastside, there's barely anything left for other necessities like grocery shopping at Tiffany's and Saks 5th

[j&j2]

On the flipside, here's an e-mail that has been circulating at Harvard (and beyond).

Harvard senior seeking female companion - 22
Date: 2007-09-17, 3:37PM EDT

My final club has a reunion this fall, and my relationship of two years ended disastrously earlier this summer. I have an invitation for myself plus one, and am willing to show you a great time. It is a private party, in an extremely classy setting. There is no real way to describe how ornate the club is, but I guarantee that it will be the most upscale experience of your life. Think back to your high school prom, take away the terrible music, and multiply the experience by ten. You must be white, 5′6″ - 5′9″, young, blonde, attractive, and intelligent. You must be in school, preferably Tufts or Wellesley but BU and BC are acceptable (definitely not MIT). You should be able to hold a conversation, know when to be quiet, and polite in all your behavior. I have seen unruly guests embarrass members before, and I hope this won't be a problem. This event is black-tie, and I am willing to procure an evening gown for you. I hate to sound so harsh, but I have expectations to live up to. No Asian, overweight, or unattractive women please. Ages 18-22 only.

Picture required.
>>>

One the one hand, this particular WM has no interest in AFs (actually, most WMs don’t have a fetish for AFs – tho, this doesn’t necessarily mean that they wouldn’t be attracted to an attractive AF or not partially buy into the stereotypes).

Otoh, why would this WM have to single out AFs out of all the races (particularly since he had already stated that the respondee needs to be white and blonde)? Hmmm…

[Arex]

^ Maybe this dude is Asian?

[snailpoo]

On the flipside, here's an e-mail that has been circulating at Harvard (and beyond).

And the point is?

[j&j2]

^ Not surprisingly, it seems only you have trouble seeing the relevance.

[cloudzero]

did the jerry springer bell just go "ding-ding" ????

[snailpoo]

^ Not surprisingly, it seems only you have trouble seeing the relevance.

One guy (that you ASSUME is white) doesn't want to date Asian girls. Oh horror! :rolleyes:


This thread was about humor. You failed to bring the funny. While the Harvard Craigslist ad is amusing, you took it off the decidedly unfunny end by automatically having an adverse reaction and connecting it to your racism soapbox. Hence, relevance?

[deez nuts]

One guy (that you ASSUME is white) doesn't want to date Asian girls. Oh horror! :rolleyes:


This thread was about humor. You failed to bring the funny. While the Harvard Craigslist ad is amusing, you took it off the decidedly unfunny end by automatically having an adverse reaction and connecting it to your racism soapbox. Hence, relevance?

So let me get this straight. We as Asian males should whine when a white dude won't date an Asian chick and whine when a white dude does date an Asian chick. Damn those evil Asian bitches for causing all these problems. Is it because they are double minorities and hypersexualized? Is that what makes them so evil?

[j&j2]

One guy (that you ASSUME is white) doesn't want to date Asian girls. Oh horror!

If this is what you got out of that e-mail - then, I'm afraid, you live up to your reputation of being clueless.


This thread was about humor. You failed to bring the funny. While the Harvard Craigslist ad is amusing, you took it off the decidedly unfunny end by automatically having an adverse reaction and connecting it to your racism soapbox. Hence, relevance?

Both were about the ridiculous and superficial expectations people of both genders have about what they want in a their partner.

I'm afraid you don't have much of a sense of humor.

The only "humor" is in the ridiculousness of the traits required and the request in itself (that people would actually post such things with a straight face).

The fact that I pointed out the Asian component was merely b/c (gasp!) this is an Asian-oriented site and thus, has some additional relevance.

Same old sp ...clueless.

[cloudzero]

Jerry !!! Jerry !!! Jerry !!!

[snailpoo]

I'm afraid you don't have much of a sense of humor.

The only "humor" is in the ridiculousness of the traits required and the request in itself (that people would actually post such things with a straight face).

Well, DUH. Of course that's why it was funny, but no, you decided to go off on your soapbox rants.


The fact that I pointed out the Asian component was merely b/c (gasp!) this is an Asian-oriented site and thus, has some additional relevance.

Same old sp ...clueless.

As for that, I'll turn it over to deez nuts :wink:

So let me get this straight. We as Asian males should whine when a white dude won't date an Asian chick and whine when a white dude does date an Asian chick. Damn those evil Asian bitches for causing all these problems. Is it because they are double minorities and hypersexualized? Is that what makes them so evil?

I think you'll have to ask j&j those questions, though I think his response is that Asian guys aren't whining enough on the internets. IF we all spend every weekend whining together, we will solve this problem, dammit!

[j&j2]

Well, DUH. Of course that's why it was funny, but no, you decided to go off on your soapbox rants.

All you did was post a request by a female who had pretty ludicrous demands as to what was required to be a suitable mate.

I posted a request of a guy who, on the "flipside", also had some pretty ludicrous demands for what he wanted in a female partner (in fact, the two would probably be perfect for each other).

The "humor" is in the ludicrousness of their demands - so what I had posted is as "funny" and also relevant.

And yeah, I did add a comment about the aspect of the post with had something to do with Asians (oh, my!) - this is, afterall, an Asian site.

There have been numerous posts here about things that have happened in the media or real life which has negatively impacted Asians or a specific Asian individual and yet there hasn't been a single post by you of support or expression of indignation.

In fact, the only posts you have made with regard to any Asian issues have been your "poo-pooing" of them or disseminating INACCURATE information (why are you even on an Asian forum?).

[cloudzero]

i know how to settle this
both of you ignore each other starting......nnnnnnnnow!!

[eos]

if i didn't know any better, i'd think you 2 would go brokeback on us. seriously. it's like those cary grant-katherine hepburn movies....they start out hating each other but in the end, they fall in love.

[snailpoo]

i know how to settle this
both of you ignore each other starting......nnnnnnnnow!!

See? He is the turd that doesn't flush, following me around like an obsessed lap dog.

And sorry, Akane, that brokeback thing is only from him. I'm not the one who migrated messageboards to follow an obsession.

[eos]

hmm...ok another movie reference then.....chuck and buck.

(if anyone even KNOWS about this movie, please marry me now.)

[yoMAMA]

haha, that was a brilliant analysis!
:biggrin:

and, i bet that harvard guy is asian.

[monkeygone2]

(sings) "...oodley oodley, fun fun fun,"

[eos]

^we're getting married!!!!! everyone's invited!!!!

[TB4000]

The guy that responded to her was correct though. That investment would go downhill eventually.

[j&j2]

See? He is the turd that doesn't flush, following me around like an obsessed lap dog.

And sorry, Akane, that brokeback thing is only from him. I'm not the one who migrated messageboards to follow an obsession.

Oh please, more deluded visions of grandeur from sp.

First of all, my post here had nothing to do w/ you (and in fact, you were the one who made it an issue).

Second, as I had already stated (why do I always have to REPEAT myself w/ you?), I've been reading this site for years (so I hardly "followed" you here; plus, how would I have even known to "follow" you to this site?) and my first month or two of posting here had nothing to do with you (ultimately, however, I was forced to correct the load of crap you were dishing out to the others here).

Third, don't take me having to correct your continual misstatements of fact or debunking your illogical conclusions as a positive.

[j&j2]

and, i bet that harvard guy is asian.

Probably not since an asian guy wouldn't have accepted any less than a girl from Wellesley or Tufts - lol!

[deez nuts]

I think you'll have to ask j&j those questions, though I think his response is that Asian guys aren't whining enough on the internets. IF we all spend every weekend whining together, we will solve this problem, dammit!

I think he's dodging the question.

[snailpoo]

I think he's dodging the question.

:wink:

[mr. x]

I don't know, maybe the guy's just a republican who wants to keep it pure

[yoMAMA]

Probably not since an asian guy wouldn't have accepted any less than a girl from Wellesley or Tufts - lol!

actually word from the street is that, the lower the tier, the hotter the girls.

[j&j2]

LOL! I’m not dodging the question – I’m just sick of having to REPEAT myself over and over again simply b/c sp is too obtuse to realize that the question has already been asked and answered prior (just like how I, a no. of times, had previously informed sp that his assertion that there were more 1.5 gen and 2nd+ gen females than males was incorrect – which still, btw, didn’t stop sp from again repeating his incorrect assertions here).

First of, as I’ve already told sp – I’ve never “whined” about anything personally and instead, simply lay out the facts (which is something, btw, he needs to work on) with regard to various issues affecting the Asian-American community. Even so, that didn’t stop sp from labeling me a “loser, Asian male who can’t get a date” (gee, talk about using stereotypes).

Second, if laying out the facts about issues regarding the Asian-American community is “whining” – then all of the professors of Asian-American studies are “whiners” since that is exactly what they do for a living. I find it amusing that sp has no problem (incorrectly) using the stats from Prof. Le’s website, and yet, has never acknowledged what Prof. Le has stated with regard to Asian-American issues (particularly w/ regard to IR marriage/dating/media portrayal) – even tho I had quoted Prof. Le a no. of times on these issues.

Third, it’s funny how sp has never responded when I pointed out that Yul Kwon - by repeatedly talking about how the media negatively stereotypes Asian males and doesn’t have a balanced portrayal – is in effect “whining”.

Shouldn’t sp be bashing Yul for being a “whiner” – esp. since Yul is “whining” about an issue which sp DOESN’T consider to be a problem (negative stereotypical media representation of AMs in the media)?

Fourth, if laying out the facts and talking about the issues regarding the Asian-American community is “whining” – then pretty much all of you are whiners (look at the a lot of the posts here which talks about negative media representation on any no. of films/tv shows, incidents of racism against Asians, etc.

Fifth – if I’m guilty of “whining” – then I’m also guilty of whining about issues which affect primarily Asian females (i.e. – eating disorders, plastic surgery, fetishization of Asian females, etc.) and has no bearing on Asian males in general.

Wow – I must be such a big “whiner” for whining about issues which, as a male, don’t affect me at all.

Sixth – sp, again with the overuse of emoticons – (makes sense tho, since sp never has anything substantial to post).


actually word from the street is that, the lower the tier, the hotter the girls.

But since when did Asian guys have “hotness” at the top of the list? Isn’t it all about what school a girl goes to?

[deez nuts]

Asian women are double minorities and hypersexualized.

[snailpoo]

Blah, blah, blah.

Aside from pointing out your obvious mistakes like these that ruin your credibility, I am not backing up any argument with you on this forum with any substanstantive information. Why? No one cares. The posters here are old enough and intelligent enough not to fall for the all-oppressive racism angst, and they (and I) certainly do not (you'd know this by now if you were literate) waste time going line by line into arguments you already lost.

This leaves you with two HUGE problems of presumption, you can't over come. One, IF you won those threads, you would not be the one running away from them. Nothing you say can overcome this fact, and running and pretending in front of a new audience on a new board certainly doesn't change anything. Two, over the two years I've posted on this board, I've estabished a reputation for being able to back up what I claim. This isn't I can't; this is I already have, and if you're too slow to understand it the first (or five) times, it's not my job to teach you again.

I think he's dodging the question.

Notice how he still dodges the question?

[j&j2]

^ LOL!!

Is that the best you can do?

I DID answer the question (unlike you on many occasions) - you, as usual, just aren't bright enough to realize it.

[j&j2]

Asian women are double minorities and hypersexualized.

Otoh, Asian-American women aren't always hypersexualized.

Asian-American women appear in commercials and TV shows as "regular" characters (non-stereotypical) or in the anchor chair - the fact that they are almost never paired with Asian-American males isn't as much hypersexualization in these cases as it is the desexualization of the Asian-American male as a viable partner.

[snailpoo]

^ LOL!!

Is that the best you can do?

I DID answer the question (unlike you on many occasions) - you, as usual, just aren't bright enough to realize it.



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[cloudzero]

why dont u two date each other already

[j&j2]

The problem w/ sp is that he is too obtuse/stubborn to realize that all of his “conclusions” have HUGE HOLES in them (which is why he continued to assert the there are more 1.5 and 2nd + gen Asian females than males claim to support his weak-ass position).

That’s exactly the reason why he has failed to realize that in order to be CONSISTENT w/ his positions, he should be blasting Yul Kwon for wasting his time whining about something that sp DOESN’T consider to be a problem (the one-sided, negative stereotypical portrayal of Asian-American males in the media).

Note how sp – instead of actually responding with a coherent counterargument – pathetically resorts to pithy insults, the posting of sophomoric images or the infantile overuse of emoticons – since he has no counterarguments.

sp’s lack of common sense is exactly the reason why Giuliani is his hero.

why dont u two date each other already

Even if I swung that way - I don't date deluded, morons.

[eos]

found this while looking through CL's best of section.....

to the gentleman who called me a depreciating asset (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/445962092.html)

[cloudzero]

she saids "plastic surgery"
i find that a bit desperate for an argument
old lady + plastic surgery = plastic old lady

i wonder how much she paid her writer

[LaiSteve66]

she saids "plastic surgery"
i find that a bit desperate for an argument
old lady + plastic surgery = plastic old lady

i wonder how much she paid her writer

Yeah, she also talks about how she and her "current boyfriend" "thoroughly enjoyed discussing" his response. So she's showing her "boyfriend" a response to her email where she wanted advice on how to bag a rich guy, and her counter argument was rubbish. I don't know of any plastic surgery that gets rid of aging.

[snailpoo]

why dont u two date each other already
Nah, I don't date stalkers.

See how he loses it when I said I wasn't interested and no one cares?



Yeah, she also talks about how she and her "current boyfriend" "thoroughly enjoyed discussing" his response. So she's showing her "boyfriend" a response to her email where she wanted advice on how to bag a rich guy, and her counter argument was rubbish. I don't know of any plastic surgery that gets rid of aging.

She sounds like she's attempting to incorporate terms and concepts just for the sole purpose of using those terms and concepts... too forced.

[j&j2]

^ So typical - LOL!

Why don't you post something substantive (and not infantile) for a change?

[eos]

all right...enough's enough...how many fucking threads are you 2 going to ruin? jeebus. i tried to get us back on track by posting that rebuttal but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, y'all just gotta come back and bat at each other's ball sacs AGAIN. wtf.

[snailpoo]

all right...enough's enough...how many fucking threads are you 2 going to ruin? jeebus. i tried to get us back on track by posting that rebuttal but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, y'all just gotta come back and bat at each other's ball sacs AGAIN. wtf.

What did I do? All I did is to repeat that I'm not interested. In fact, I did NOT respond to him after your post, AND I have responded to your attempt to get us back on topic. Tell me, what would you do with someone who followed you around like a bad odor? And don't tell me ignore, because obviously you could have done the same.

Note:


^ So typical - LOL!

Why don't you post something substantive (and not infantile) for a change?
Erm.

Aside from pointing out your obvious mistakes like these that ruin your credibility, I am not backing up any argument with you on this forum with any substanstantive information. Why? No one cares. The posters here are old enough and intelligent enough not to fall for the all-oppressive racism angst, and they (and I) certainly do not (you'd know this by now if you were literate) waste time going line by line into arguments you already lost.

This leaves you with two HUGE problems of presumption, you can't over come. One, IF you won those threads, you would not be the one running away from them. Nothing you say can overcome this fact, and running and pretending in front of a new audience on a new board certainly doesn't change anything. Two, over the two years I've posted on this board, I've estabished a reputation for being able to back up what I claim. This isn't I can't; this is I already have, and if you're too slow to understand it the first (or five) times, it's not my job to teach you again.

Emphasis ALREADY existing.

[kimpossible]

oh god.