View Full Version : Why do Filipinos have a tendency to be late?
Filiprish
12-15-2005, 12:30 AM
It doesn't matter where in the world, if anyone is marginally connected to the Philippines and it's culture - it's contagious - expect tardiness, 99.9% of the time. Why?
As for me, no exception, but making progress.
:wink: :confused:
pseudohmong
12-15-2005, 05:52 AM
Maybe Filipinos are laid back people who enjoy taking their time.
DragonKnight
12-15-2005, 08:39 AM
Got me. I think I'm late about 70% of the time. Which is pretty good I guess. :tongue:
bushido
12-15-2005, 09:20 AM
Got me. I think I'm late about 70% of the time. Which is pretty good I guess. :tongue:
Dude, you were like the first one at Ramenya last week.
Filiprish
12-15-2005, 11:38 AM
It definitely has something to do with the laid-back island culture. I think it mostly has something to do with passive-aggression in reaction to colonialism.
Filipino Time by Johanna Francisco (http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/10471/101594)
The value of time and of our rights by Retired Supreme Court Justice EMILIO A. GANCAYCO (http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2005/11/06/OPED2005110648448.html)
Craig
12-15-2005, 12:26 PM
Dude, you were like the first one at Ramenya last week.Maybe 'Filipino Time' is earlier than 'California Time' ? I have noticed over here at little events like meetings, etc. that most of the people are habitually late. However, now is nothing compared to when I was working at Stanford, where people showing up 30-minutes and 1-hour late for a meeting was the norm.
Banana
12-15-2005, 12:32 PM
What's "late?" I know friends that are hours late.
Filiprish
12-15-2005, 01:58 PM
What's "late?" I know friends that are hours late.
Depends on the event. For a business meeting, hours late is...yeah...definitely late, 15-20 mins is no biggie if you know the person(s) well. As for a party, that'd be right on time. The way I see it, if you're late enough to disrupt the plans of, or alienate, another than you are @#$%& LATE!
SunWuKong
12-15-2005, 02:27 PM
Maybe 'Filipino Time' is earlier than 'California Time' ? I have noticed over here at little events like meetings, etc. that most of the people are habitually late. However, now is nothing compared to when I was working at Stanford, where people showing up 30-minutes and 1-hour late for a meeting was the norm.
you Californians are too laid back. this kind of crap would drive me crazy, especially in situations that are not purely social.
rice cracker
12-15-2005, 02:51 PM
you Californians are too laid back. this kind of crap would drive me crazy, especially in situations that are not purely social.
Oh, you are late all the time. Be quiet.
Filiprish
12-15-2005, 03:01 PM
However, now is nothing compared to when I was working at Stanford, where people showing up 30-minutes and 1-hour late for a meeting was the norm.
So what do ya'll do in the meantime, waiting for the rest of fools to show up?
Craig
12-15-2005, 03:48 PM
So what do ya'll do in the meantime, waiting for the rest of fools to show up?I was never in control of any of the meetings at Stanford, but most of them were useless and pointless because the people were mainly moronic well-connected good-old boys who would screw off all the time. I tended to skip those meetings because usually nothing would get done, and Stanford would expect me to be somewhere, while NASA would expect me to be somewhere else, while Lockheed would expect me to be in at least 2 places all at the same time.
I guess I'll describe what I currently do (outside of Stanford), which perhaps contributes to people not showing up so late.
I have gotten into the habit of scheduling meetings in rooms with computers with projectors and Internet access. Additionally, decisions have a tendency of getting made when affected parties are absent (especially those decisions that the affected parties might not like).
If I am the first person there, I can always do things like read the news (or read from whatever book I'm currently reading), browse the local Intranet site, do things on my PDA, etc. When people start strolling in, depending on who they are, people can start talking either about work or non-work issues.
Overall, there is an assumption that many fools won't show up, and usually the meeting will start when there is a decision by whomever is in charge of the meeting. Depending on who the fool is, there is typically also an assumption on their status as skipping, or being expected at multiple meetings simultaneously, etc.
DragonKnight
12-15-2005, 04:34 PM
Dude, you were like the first one at Ramenya last week.
That was my lucky 30% day. :wink:
mercuria
12-17-2005, 12:09 AM
I don't know, from my experience *all Asians* tend to be late, hahah. It's because different cultures have different views of time. For example, one culture might not start a meeting or gathering event until everyone arrives, while another culture just starts regardless of who's arrived or who hasn't. Crossing Cultures is a good book to read if you really want to get in depth about it... it talks about everything in the context of "cultural lenses". I had to read this as part of my training for my scholarship. I've forgotten who the author is though.
pseudohmong
12-17-2005, 10:13 AM
I don't know, from my experience *all Asians* tend to be late, hahah. It's because different cultures have different views of time. For example, one culture might not start a meeting or gathering event until everyone arrives, while another culture just starts regardless of who's arrived or who hasn't. Crossing Cultures is a good book to read if you really want to get in depth about it... it talks about everything in the context of "cultural lenses". I had to read this as part of my training for my scholarship. I've forgotten who the author is though.
At my family functions, we do not eat until everyone is there unless we have to wait 2 hours or longer for late parties to arrive. If you're too hungry and can't wait, you can grab something small to eat but it's considered very disrespectful to start w/out everyone there.
Faithless
12-17-2005, 11:09 AM
Depends on the event. For a business meeting, hours late is...yeah...definitely late, 15-20 mins is no biggie if you know the person(s) well. As for a party, that'd be right on time. The way I see it, if you're late enough to disrupt the plans of, or alienate, another than you are @#$%& LATE!
15-20 minutes late to a biz meeting is sort of rude, too, though -- unless you can explain that you were really tied up.
The late part for social events is alright, I guess, unless you have some place especially reserved and you need to have everyone out of there by a certain time.
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