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Cipherous
08-29-2004, 06:09 PM
I have no idea how to make of this,
to be honest, I think its kinda pathetic not to mention sexist and racist. If anything, if a white woman finds this book somewhere in the dude's house or car, she'd probably drop him like a bad habit.
Link on amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0919637264//qid=1093467287/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-4357730-2049525?v=glance&s=books&vi=reviews)
About the Author Mr. Quan is an International Business Consultant. He has travelled and worked in many countries. For more than fifteen years, he has successfully dated women of many nationalities. He has provided here, his observations in dating White women and his thoughts on the subject of a romantic relation of an Asian man with a White woman.
Book Description Feel Confident about approaching attractive White women, avoid making irreversible blunders... How to Date a White Woman, A Practical Guide For Asian Men Written by an Asian with Asian men in mind within the context of a western society. Provided inside are the knowledge, framework and tools necessary for an Asian man to understand, to plan and to put into action the steps to successfully date a white woman. This step-by-step guide includes planning, relationship management and is an easy to read and easy to understand manual. The guidelines presented will help you pursue and succeed with that white woman you are after.
bluemonq
08-29-2004, 06:36 PM
you know when i read the title of this thread, i thought it was a joke of some sort.
what some chinese-canadian thought of this (no particular reason, his was the only blog i saw) [http://www.cameraobscura.ca/index.php/archive/1/2003-05-31
The perimeter of the pavilion was ringed with booths selling the usual Asian cultural items: pottery, paintings, Korean bulgogi BBQ, fish-shaped pung-ap-bang pastries, cell phones. One of the booths caught my eye - a bearded Asian guy and his Eastern European girlfriend were selling copies of How to Date a White woman, a Practical Guide for Asian men. I smiled at the title and started to talk to the guy, asking if he was the author. But in the next few minutes of flipping through the book, I realized that the book wasn't ironic at all - it really was a serious guide to how to dress and act. Obviously my disappointment and unease showed on my face, because he quickly started to say "A relationship is a very precious thing and is an important investment - "
"And a $23 book isn't much money in comparison, yeah, I get it."
Actually, I was sorely tempted to buy a copy for Zhan or Jim or even Ben, as a sarcastic gift, but I decided that I really didn't want to support the kind of attitude Adam Quan and his book represented. And I'd be sooooo ashamed to be seen buying it. So I left, and read the web site instead. Incidentally, the site reveals that there's a Chinese version (Zheng fu xi fang nu ren mi jie), and promises that there'll soon be a "How to Date a White man, A Practical Guide for Asian women." Save up your pennies, girls.
i like how the publishing co tries to sell it: [http://www.asianworldpress.com/]]
Dating Guides for Asians
This section of the site helps Asian Men and Women in the western world to have a successful relationship with the person of their choice.
Among those Relationship-Dating guides, there are many relevant Dating and Men-Women Relationship guides, one of it is (How to Date a White woman, a Practical Guide for Asian men.) . This up-to-date material is available in many different languages. The purpose of this specific guide is to help Asian males/ White females in their primary dating activities and/or to help promote better family & community relationship for inter cultural and inter - ethnic couples, in this multicultural global world of the 21st century .
Finding and having a successful relationship with the right partner is an important step in life. Career success is only one facet of a successful life, a successful relationship with one's chosen partner is another facet of success.
A relationship with an appropriate partner is one of a person's life most valuable assets and must be protected with all the best tools available! Many men (and women) would not even consider a task without the proper tools and know how, yet surrender the pursuit and the preservation of a valuable potential life partner to random chance!
Who benefits from this book? Everybody. White women gain a better understanding of Asian men and vice versa; Asian parents because they are most likely going to have to face this issue in their lifetime and will be more prepared on how to deal with it and hopefully be more accepting; Asian women will gain better understanding and knowledge of this situation.
Most of all, it will benefit typical Asian males who only date Asian women. It will help him see that there are other options, and as Asian women have adapted more to the lifestyle of North American women, it will help him gain a better working knowledge of how to treat girls in this culture and new environment.
NotAsian
08-29-2004, 06:58 PM
The ideal response to finding a book like this is to make a dust jacket that says, "How to dump an Asian man, by a white woman", stick it on a hardback book and leave it in an obvious place.
:)
mndeg
08-29-2004, 07:05 PM
ugh
missmeow
08-29-2004, 07:12 PM
The ideal response to finding a book like this is to make a dust jacket that says, "How to dump an Asian man, by a white woman", stick it on a hardback book and leave it in an obvious place.
:)
Hahahaha. My thoughts exactly.
you guys will be glad to know that there's plent yof books online giving tips on how to date an asian woman, by a white guy.
NotAsian
08-29-2004, 07:46 PM
We will? :|
Cipherous
08-29-2004, 08:06 PM
The ideal response to finding a book like this is to make a dust jacket that says, "How to dump an Asian man, by a white woman", stick it on a hardback book and leave it in an obvious place.
:)
thats no eye catching title, heres one that works
it should be like "I don't recall ordering Chinese" by white woman
TB4000
08-29-2004, 08:45 PM
Jiminy Christmas, those white chicks sure are quite the status symbol if they have entire books dedicated to snagging them. I've already seen a few websites by black guys with that same "how to get a white chick" vibe.
missmeow
08-29-2004, 09:26 PM
No more so than the bazillions of books dedicated to scoring Asian chicks.
yoMAMA
08-29-2004, 09:49 PM
No more so than the bazillions of books dedicated to scoring Asian chicks.
I'm gonna study both to make sure i sore in the top percentile of each :smile:
Faithless
08-29-2004, 10:03 PM
Do you think that anyone bought this book through Amazon or Barnes & Noble?
I don't see the "Customers who bought this book also bought:" of that web page.
No reviews either.
Maybe this one would be better? :tongue:
The Complete A**hole's Guide to Handling Chicks (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312310846/qid=1093842107/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-2505773-1173522?v=glance&s=books)
lethal
08-29-2004, 10:05 PM
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 943,723
Cipherous
08-29-2004, 10:24 PM
heres the little trophy that the asian dude who wrote the book manage to score,
http://www.asianworldpress.com/images/BarbaraS.jpg
call it the new asian man's bible
missmeow
08-29-2004, 11:15 PM
Yes, because we're all Claudia Schiffer...
yoMAMA
08-29-2004, 11:25 PM
Yes, because we're all Claudia Schiffer...
In Minnesota, yes.
:rolleyes: :smile:
mrazntre
08-29-2004, 11:35 PM
heres the little trophy that the asian dude who wrote the book manage to score,
http://www.asianworldpress.com/images/BarbaraS.jpg
call it the new asian man's bible
BWAHAHAHHAHHAHHHAH
that bitch is homely.
Yes, because we're all Claudia Schiffer...
Mebbe one day an Asian d00d will read that book and roll your way.
Cipherous
08-29-2004, 11:36 PM
I am not trying to bash anybody or anything,
but that book is just absurd and downright degrading to asian men and white women.
if an asian dude buys that book, I can bet you that he wants the white woman for white pootang and nothing short of a material object.
some people may see this as flattery, I see it as otherwise.
mr. x
08-29-2004, 11:36 PM
psssh, how to date a white man by asian women?
stand in the godamn street and say "me sucky sucky you long time" that'll get you more white men then a KKK convention
Cipherous
08-29-2004, 11:46 PM
psssh, how to date a white man by asian women?
stand in the godamn street and say "me sucky sucky you long time" that'll get you more white men then a KKK convention
"lucky lucky sucky sucky" has a better ring to it IMO
golden_buns
08-30-2004, 12:25 AM
Try reading those learn Korean conversation books they print out for expats here in Korea. At first they show typical conversation lines such as "hi, my name is.." but then if you read thru the last chapters they're all lines such as "I wanna sleep with you", etc
Faithless
08-30-2004, 12:53 AM
In a slightly related corner of the web --
Asian Guy Dating Caucasian Women (http://www.datingclass.com/dennis/asian-guy.shtml)
Dear Dr. Neder,
First of all, I really love what you're doing to help other guys. Thank you!
I need some advice on getting dates with Caucasian women because I'm an Asian guy - it's so challenging! I'm attractive but women don't seem to look at me as a possible "boyfriend". I'm not blaming on them at all - I just need some advice.
I'm 5' 7" tall, maybe that's a little bit short for a guy, and height may possibly be a factor here. I'm reluctant and hesitant to approach Caucasian women and just ask them out because I'm afraid I might get rejected. I've tried computer dating services without luck.
What are the possibilities of getting a date with a white girl? What do I need to do to really get their attention? It's very important for me to start dating white women because, although I look Asian, I'm a cultural American. I'm not even familiar with the Asian culture! Maybe I'm just not at all good with women. Any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.
Hello!
Thank YOU for your supportive comments! I'm just here, trying to build a better man.
Just like in every other part of life, there are people that like certain things and those that don't.
Being Asian isn't an issue. You just have to find the women that are attracted to Asian-looking men. In fact, many women don't give a rip that you're Asian or anything else about you. They are concerned about you -the person - not you, "the 5' 7" Asian guy." Frankly, this is a real benefit to men. Men are much more likely to scrutinize women visually than women are men.
In fact, many women may even find your look "exotic" and "mysterious". You should play on these factors. But don't focus on them exclusively. Focus on yourself as worthwhile and "a great catch", and let the women sort it out for themselves.
What's much more important is to learn what women want. If you've read many of my articles you know that I equate dating with selling, as the skills are very much alike. How successful would a salesman be if, he had a great product, but kept going to the wrong customers trying to convince them to buy? Obviously, he wouldn't be successful at all. I see men trying to do this all the time.
What I suggest is: 1) learn what your "customer" wants to buy; and 2) sell what your customer is buying!
In the dating world, this equates to understanding what women really want and then looking at your product (you), packaging it for sale and then reaching your customer to show them the benefits. In my book, "Being a Man in a Woman's World" I go into this in great depth and suggest that you pick up a copy.
Don't focus on the things you can't change - being Asian, 5' 7", etc. Focus on your BENEFITS to your CUSTOMER. That's all that matters anyway!
Good luck, much love...
Exotic Asian dudes? Hmmmm.
SunWuKong
08-30-2004, 07:23 AM
i don't find a book like that offensive, just as i don't find those "how to get an Asian chick" guides offensive. at best i just find them kind of silly, if not dumb.
Banana
08-30-2004, 09:21 AM
I'm offended because it's so dumb.
I also find his quote about women caring mostly about the inside pretty much laughable. Most women have a preference on what they find good looking and Asian isn't on high that list. Just imo.
bluemonq
08-30-2004, 10:04 AM
i'd just like to point out that the entire time that i've been roaming around the UC Berkeley campus (more than a week now) i have seen exactly two asian male-white female couples, and one of them was married. considering the high asian population, i'm surprised. no. acutally, i'm not that surprised.
breaking news: someone thought i was cute. (not white. it would have been more appropriate, but it was shocking enough) in other news, a pig was spotted zooming across the san francisco skyline, prompting the department of homeland security to authorize an orange alert. a press release also warned about "a rapid lowering of temperature near the earth's core"...
mr. x
08-30-2004, 03:00 PM
^---bwahahahahaha
referring to book: umm okay, im not 5'7" and ive seen asian dudes here taller than me. besides, not every white guy is fuggin 7' either
deez nuts
08-30-2004, 04:12 PM
i'd just like to point out that the entire time that i've been roaming around the UC Berkeley campus (more than a week now) i have seen exactly two asian male-white female couples, and one of them was married. considering the high asian population, i'm surprised. no. acutally, i'm not that surprised.
you guys have it rough.
you're not the first person on this board that i've heard say this about berkeley and san fran.
mrazntre
08-30-2004, 04:18 PM
Yeh, that's unfortunate that the 1 asian guy couldn't find a suitable asian chick and had to settle for a white chick.
missmeow
08-30-2004, 05:33 PM
Mebbe one day an Asian d00d will read that book and roll your way.
Been there, done that, doing it.
And I don't need a book either ;)
krome
08-30-2004, 07:51 PM
psssh, how to date a white man by asian women?
stand in the godamn street and say "me sucky sucky you long time" that'll get you more white men then a KKK convention
What chapter (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0971580804/qid=1092935946/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/002-1070502-0863216?v=glance&s=books) was that in?
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0971580804.01._PE32_PIdp-schmooS,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
How to Attract Asian Women, written by an Asian woman who has interviewed other Asian women, reveals how men can attract and date Asian women. Contains hundreds of quotes by Asian women about what they want in men. Written by Ming Tan, who hosts events and seminars for AsianSocials.com, the Asian American Professionals Network. (http://www.mingtan.com/index.asp?referer=MT262788612)
PropellerheadCP
08-30-2004, 07:54 PM
Good lord... how do these things get published?
I find it offensive on several levels. At the very top of the list is its attack towards people's intelligence. To let them think that a few "tricks and tactics" will change a person's undesirability, as well as justifying racist "preferences".
Yeah, I've had a couple of "trophy white girlfriends" in high school. All that ended, once I realized how wrong it was to do so. Especially since the first one was just to prove to the Chinese kids that I hung out with that white girls find us attractive, as well.
Whatever... if a dude really wants a white girl that badly, then go to an "anime convention". There are plenty of white female Asianphiles hanging around. It may not be pretty, but hey... if the dude needs to read the book, then he's got to be pretty desperate.
I remember seeing and being approached by a lot of them (female Asianphiles), when I was still in the comic biz.
Mr.Lum
08-30-2004, 07:55 PM
Whatever... if a dude really wants a white girl that badly, then go to an "anime convention". There are plenty of white female Asianphiles hanging around.
I just talk to girls at school or whereever. These books are unnessicary and demining.
TB4000
08-30-2004, 07:59 PM
Been there, done that, doing it.
And I don't need a book either ;)
You go, girl! *snaps fingers in sassy fashion*
:tongue:
Cipherous
08-30-2004, 08:52 PM
Yeh, that's unfortunate that the 1 asian guy couldn't find a suitable asian chick and had to settle for a white chick.
I think the dude's preference is a white girl, hes not really settling for a white girl...hes wants them. I've met alot of Asian males who share the same view.
bluemonq
08-30-2004, 10:25 PM
Good lord... how do these things get published?
i think it's on the same level as the child pimps and hoes costumes: believe it or not, there's a market out there. and a pretty viable one at that, considering the costs of making books.
Fireblade
08-30-2004, 11:28 PM
waitaminute... you mean there's a book out on this? The hell? And here I am trying unproven stuff on my own. *Sobs*
White women... why do you elude me so?!!! (btw, this is a joke.)
Napoleon Chynamite
08-30-2004, 11:47 PM
White women are much better than Asian women. I just prefer cottage cheese over butter.
Deadpool
08-31-2004, 04:29 AM
I think the dude's preference is a white girl, hes not really settling for a white girl...hes wants them. I've met alot of Asian males who share the same view.
Sellout!
lethal
08-31-2004, 08:21 AM
Alright alright...more comments on the book, less sarcasm...
krome
08-31-2004, 08:42 AM
Alright alright...more comments on the book, less sarcasm...
How can we comment on it if there are no excerpts or reviews? Somebody buy a copy, cuz I'm curious to know:
"Feel Confident about approaching attractive White women, avoid making irreversible blunders..."
What sorts of "irreversible blunders" in particular can you make with a white girl? Taking your shoes off in her house? Eating her dog, what? :confused:
mrazntre
08-31-2004, 09:13 AM
I think the dude's preference is a white girl, hes not really settling for a white girl...hes wants them. I've met alot of Asian males who share the same view.
I think he's been brainwashed into wanting a white girl.
SunWuKong
08-31-2004, 09:35 AM
What sorts of "irreversible blunders" in particular can you make with a white girl? Taking your shoes off in her house? Eating her dog, what? :confused:
hahhah good question. now i feel like reading it just to read what those "irreversible blunders" are.
mrazntre
08-31-2004, 09:44 AM
HAHAHAHAH
how about wiping down the silverware at the restaurant before eating?
SunWuKong
08-31-2004, 09:54 AM
HAHAHAHAH
how about wiping down the silverware at the restaurant before eating?
how about the Asian squat?
white girl: oh my god what are you doing? why are you squatting down like that like you're taking a shit? i can't believe i went out with you!
asian guy: doh! that's irreversible blunder number 17! how could i have forgotten?!?
mrazntre
08-31-2004, 10:02 AM
SWK: You're never gonna get any white p00nan.
krome
08-31-2004, 10:39 AM
how about the Asian squat?
white girl: oh my god what are you doing? why are you squatting down like that like you're taking a shit? i can't believe i went out with you!
asian guy: doh! that's irreversible blunder number 17! how could i have forgotten?!?
Bwahaha!
16. Putting on your Power Ranger/Anime suit the first time you have s*x (work that in later).
15. Thinking s*x = commitment. (No, it's just a sport in the US.)
14. Letting her dad find out. Ever.
13. Going "hunting" out in the woods alone with her dad.
12. Bringing chicken feet to her family's pot luck BBQ.
11. Showing up at her family's BBQ.
10. Refusing to get drunk or stoned at least once a week.
9. Refusing to go to church to repent for not getting drunk & stoned.
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1. Leaving this book out on the table when she comes over.
SunWuKong
08-31-2004, 11:06 AM
Bwahaha!
16. Putting on your Power Ranger/Anime suit the first time you have s*x (work that in later).
15. Thinking s*x = commitment. (No, it's just a sport in the US.)
14. Letting her dad find out. Ever.
13. Going "hunting" out in the woods alone with her dad.
12. Bringing chicken feet to her family's pot luck BBQ.
11. Showing up at her family's BBQ.
10. Refusing to get drunk or stoned at least once a week.
9. Refusing to go to church to repent for not getting drunk & stoned.
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1. Leaving this book out on the table when she comes over.
ok, i got the joke for number 12, but not any of the other ones.
krome
08-31-2004, 11:09 AM
ok, i got the joke for number 12, but not any of the other ones.
Don't play dumb. :biggrin: Not even #1?
Eh, tuff crowd...
Faithless
08-31-2004, 02:15 PM
Bwahaha!
16. Putting on your Power Ranger/Anime suit the first time you have s*x (work that in later).
15. Thinking s*x = commitment. (No, it's just a sport in the US.)
14. Letting her dad find out. Ever.
13. Going "hunting" out in the woods alone with her dad.
12. Bringing chicken feet to her family's pot luck BBQ.
11. Showing up at her family's BBQ.
10. Refusing to get drunk or stoned at least once a week.
9. Refusing to go to church to repent for not getting drunk & stoned.
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1. Leaving this book out on the table when she comes over.
If that's the case --
- Pouring tea in your rice bowl, then bringing rice bowl to mouth, and declaring with a full mouth, "I love this shit!"
- Starting any conversation with, "How come white people don't...?"
- Or declaring that "white astrology is horseshit and Azn astrology rulez!"
Another forum explores this thing about am/wf (http://forum.japantoday.com/do_asian_guys_like_white_girls%3F/m_107492/tm.htm)
I'm a white girl and I can tell you one thing ... i LOVE asian guys. I love everything about um... the soft skin.. shyness.. perfect hair.. the way they so gently hold your hand. They make you feel special unlike any other race out there.. they treat you with respect. I know this doesnt apply to ALL asian guys but it has with the ones i have met. The only thing that makes it hard to be with them is that i have to watch what i say and not be soo loud so they dont feel intimidated. It's all worth it though.
mndeg
08-31-2004, 03:30 PM
squatting is hard to do for long periods of time
Some heelarious Amazon review quotes from the "Ming Tan" book:
Finally a book on this topic. Ming Tan makes it easy to get to meet and date Asian women BEFORE they get spoiled like the rest of American women. And don't let any claptrap about racism or objectifying stop you from from doing the sensible thing and loving your neighbor.
My only other criticism about this book is regarding the Asian women she interviewed, and how representative some of their views were about Asian women in general. I was particularly astounded at how many of the women, when describing their ideal man, mentioned the exceptionally high income levels of the man they sought. The author claims to have interviewed a variety of Asian women of a broad age range and who were both immigrants of many Asian nationalities as well as Asian Americans. Yet this kind of information makes me wonder if a very high number (if not most) of these women were twenty and thirtysomething Americanized Asian women living and working in upscale New York, which would't be too surprising since these are the ones she probably knows most. It also would have been nice to have just a bit more of this kind of information about each of the women she quotes since she relies on a LOT of these and would have enabled me to put an opinion in perspective. Yes, Education is valued in just about every Asian culture and the more education and higher income you have, the better your chances of attracting a quality woman. But I know of two guys who are married to Fillipinas, one who works as a mechanic, the other a roofer.
stunninglyAsian
08-31-2004, 06:07 PM
I think it's kind of odd- to really cement the stereotypes, it should be written by a white woman and be the other way around. They should talk about how exotic and gentle we are and how shy we are.
I wonder how they stereotype white women?
I bet there's some bit about how Asian women are evil purveyors that purposely keep the Asian man down.
Faithless
08-31-2004, 06:52 PM
ASIAN MEN - CAN'T LIVE WITH THEM, CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THEM! (http://www.mblog.com/dv/asian_men_cant_live_with_them_cant_live_without_th em.html)
Here's one for all the Asian men out there (from The Sunday Times UK)
Why every girl needs a nice Asian boyfriend on her arm
by Gitangeli Sapra
This week's slew of tabloid photographs says it all. Despite the cynics and the estranged wife, the relationship between Liz Hurley and her Hindu lover Arun Nayar seems to be going swimmingly. I for one am not surprised that Hurley is holding on to her man. She has discovered what Asian women already know: once you go Asian, you'll never go back. Many Asian men earn great money, know their way around a kitchen and aren't afraid to show their emotions.
Teenage girls throughout Britain seem to be replacing lipsticked posters of Gareth Gates with those of the Asian actor Chris Bisson, after his stint on this year's I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here. Asian men are slowly coming out of the corner shop and onto the must-have lists of discerning women, and it's not hard to see why. A goodly proportion of Asian men are rich. Very rich. There are more than 40 in this year's Sunday Times Rich List and there is not a halal butcher among them. Asians represent the largest non-white group on the list. They are also the largest ethnic minority group in the House of Lords. Figures from the Cabinet Office show that one in every 20 Asian men permanently based in the UK is a doctor and that Asians own 7% of the UK's businesses despite making up less than 3% of the population. Asian men are emotionally strong. Having spent their primary school years not being Joseph in the nativity play and their secondary school years not being picked for the football team, they've learnt at a young age that life is not always an easy ride. Bridget Jones types can also breathe a sigh of relief and throw out the diet along with the support knickers: having been raised on a televisual diet of voluptuous Bollywood heroines draped in strategically clingy wet saris, most Asian men are partial to a more curvaceous kind of girl. And Hurley will no doubt be pleased to learn that, when it comes to fidelity, Asian men lead the field. It's not so much the thought of hurting their partners but rather the thought of having to explain those embarrassing mug shots in the press to their mother, father, grandmother and approximately 435 cousins that keeps them faithful. Stylistically speaking, Asian men can impress even the most glacial of fashion editors. While their fathers may have sweated it out on the factory floor, the modern Asian male has a strategic approach to the clothing trade.
The UK's third largest clothing chain, New Look, was started by the intrepid Tom Singh, whose family stake in the firm is valued at £141m. And for all those career women out there, Asian men can cook. Really cook, not just flick the "on" button of the microwave. With the volume of Asian festivals each year, the teenage years of today's Hindu and Muslim twentysomethings were spent being shunted into the kitchen, handed a rolling pin, several tons of flour and the instructions to get on with the feeding of the 5,000 relatives gathered in the front room. In this case the proof really is in the pudding, or rather the chapattis. Some of our most famous British men seem to have begun to realise that Asian is better. David Beckham was recently the subject of the C4 program Black Like Beckham,which tried to argue that he dresses and acts like a black man. Actually they got it wrong: he's a wannabe Asian The Manchester United player has a tattoo on his left forearm spelling out his wife Victoria's name in Hindi. Add to this his comparatively young marriage (aged 24) and fondness for sarongs (Hindus call it a dhoti but this is nitpicking) and it's pretty obvious where he's going with this. Beckham has even been portrayed as the Indian God Shivji in a painting by British Asian artists Amrit and Rabindra Singh. So Liz is right to want to hang on to her man, despite the legendary slowness of the Italian divorce system (Arun is still married to an Italian model).Three years is a small price to pay for the freedom to eat heartily and spend freely for the rest of your life. Of course, with every Asian man comes an Asian mother-in-law, but that's another story.
bluemonq
08-31-2004, 08:30 PM
hrmm... so now we're the fad. the "have an asian dude as your so." great. i feel sooooo loved.
I wonder how they stereotype white women?
I bet there's some bit about how Asian women are evil purveyors that purposely keep the Asian man down.
um... yeah...
FIGHT THE WOMAN! ::shakes fist:: FIGHT THE WOMAN!
oh wait... we're supposed to be eo here. move along, nothing to see here...
what is with all the how to date a _________ _________ books? why can't people learn the hard way just like me?
NotAsian
08-31-2004, 08:33 PM
@ CM:
That article, being from Britain, is about "South Asians" ( <-- correct me if this is the wrong expression, we just call them "Asians" :p )
What I mean is, people whose ancestry is in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.
^ since chotto's article was british, there asian means indian and pakistani and the such, not china or korea. i think they still call us orientals over the pond.
edit: didn't see not asian's post
missmeow
08-31-2004, 09:52 PM
how about the Asian squat?
white girl: oh my god what are you doing? why are you squatting down like that like you're taking a shit? i can't believe i went out with you!
asian guy: doh! that's irreversible blunder number 17! how could i have forgotten?!?
You kidding? Squatting shows off the ass muscle. This isn't a blunder. Unless you have no ass.
I wonder how they stereotype white women?
.
We're all slutty and like to suck dick.
mrazntre
08-31-2004, 10:12 PM
We're all slutty and like to suck dick.
i GOTTA have that book....
Fireblade
08-31-2004, 10:37 PM
You kidding? Squatting shows off the ass muscle. This isn't a blunder. Unless you have no ass.
In that case, I proudly will do the asian squat. *Squats*
And yet.... I do not feel sexy. I wonder why? :confused:
mrazntre
08-31-2004, 11:02 PM
In that case, I proudly will do the asian squat. *Squats*
And yet.... I do not feel sexy. I wonder why? :confused:
I think it's because it kinda looks like you're taking a dump.
golden_buns
08-31-2004, 11:31 PM
But I know of two guys who are married to Fillipinas, one who works as a mechanic, the other a roofer.
U.S visas are highly regarded in 3rd world countries
Faithless
08-31-2004, 11:43 PM
@ CM:
That article, being from Britain, is about "South Asians" ( <-- correct me if this is the wrong expression, we just call them "Asians" :p )
What I mean is, people whose ancestry is in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.
Yeah, I realized that. Thought it was an interesting parallel.
One reviewer got it:
I bought this book last week. It has worked wonders for me. I love how my new girlfriends can't speak english good. They are also so small and hairless. Only 2 in 5 call me creepy asiaphile stalker man, rather than 4 of 5. Thanks for lowering my percentages! This book allows us to be the cool guys we really are.
SunWuKong
09-01-2004, 06:23 AM
Some heelarious Amazon review quotes from the "Ming Tan" book:
Finally a book on this topic. Ming Tan makes it easy to get to meet and date Asian women BEFORE they get spoiled like the rest of American women. And don't let any claptrap about racism or objectifying stop you from from doing the sensible thing and loving your neighbor.
My only other criticism about this book is regarding the Asian women she interviewed, and how representative some of their views were about Asian women in general. I was particularly astounded at how many of the women, when describing their ideal man, mentioned the exceptionally high income levels of the man they sought. The author claims to have interviewed a variety of Asian women of a broad age range and who were both immigrants of many Asian nationalities as well as Asian Americans. Yet this kind of information makes me wonder if a very high number (if not most) of these women were twenty and thirtysomething Americanized Asian women living and working in upscale New York, which would't be too surprising since these are the ones she probably knows most. It also would have been nice to have just a bit more of this kind of information about each of the women she quotes since she relies on a LOT of these and would have enabled me to put an opinion in perspective. Yes, Education is valued in just about every Asian culture and the more education and higher income you have, the better your chances of attracting a quality woman. But I know of two guys who are married to Fillipinas, one who works as a mechanic, the other a roofer.
wow. these 2 losers need help.
Another forum explores this thing about am/wf (http://forum.japantoday.com/do_asian_guys_like_white_girls%3F/m_107492/tm.htm)QUOTE:
I'm a white girl and I can tell you one thing ... i LOVE asian guys. I love everything about um... the soft skin.. shyness.. perfect hair.. the way they so gently hold your hand. They make you feel special unlike any other race out there.. they treat you with respect. I know this doesnt apply to ALL asian guys but it has with the ones i have met. The only thing that makes it hard to be with them is that i have to watch what i say and not be soo loud so they dont feel intimidated. It's all worth it though.
oh excellent. ok fellas, let's go get us some white women with our soft skin and shyness.
ASIAN MEN - CAN'T LIVE WITH THEM, CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THEM! (http://www.mblog.com/dv/asian_men_cant_live_with_them_cant_live_without_th em.html)
i think that article is written for people in the UK, which means that "Asian" refers more so to South Asians than East Asians. personally i think East Asians and South Asians face different sexual stereotypes.
deez nuts
09-01-2004, 06:25 AM
oh excellent. ok fellas, let's go get us some white women with our soft skin and shyness.
that would explain why white chicks flock to me.
i am a shy oriental boy with clear smooth skin.
SunWuKong
09-01-2004, 06:25 AM
We're all slutty and like to suck dick.
i thought that was Asian women?
deez nuts
09-01-2004, 06:28 AM
We're all slutty and like to suck dick.
and take it in the ass.
Napoleon Chynamite
09-01-2004, 02:48 PM
One reviewer got it:
I bought this book last week. It has worked wonders for me. I love how my new girlfriends can't speak english good. They are also so small and hairless. Only 2 in 5 call me creepy asiaphile stalker man, rather than 4 of 5. Thanks for lowering my percentages! This book allows us to be the cool guys we really are.
I think your post made my day ^^
mrazntre
09-01-2004, 04:37 PM
and take it in the ass.
WORD
Napoleon Chynamite
09-01-2004, 08:18 PM
^Dude ok....I don't mean to be superficial and I'm not all that and a bag of chips either...but...seriously, couldn't they have picked any other asian chick to be in that picture?
lethal
09-01-2004, 08:23 PM
Warning: no AF/WM posts! They will be deleted.
Cipherous
09-01-2004, 09:24 PM
Warning: no AF/WM posts! They will be deleted.
are you being sarcastic?
lethal
09-01-2004, 10:03 PM
are you being sarcastic?
No.
asvenus
09-02-2004, 06:25 AM
oh god this shit is toooo funny....i think the only difference between stereotypes of South East(chinese/japanese/vietnamese etc) and South Asian(Inidan/Pakistani etc) men is that the prior group are less hairy than the latter...and thats about it...both do the shoe thing, eat funny smelly foods, really 'clever', good with the technology, business minded, straight black hair...and both just really want a white woman....and now you will have her....you lucky fellas!!
fresh22
09-02-2004, 03:33 PM
i'd just like to point out that the entire time that i've been roaming around the UC Berkeley campus (more than a week now) i have seen exactly two asian male-white female couples, and one of them was married. considering the high asian population, i'm surprised. no. acutally, i'm not that surprised.
breaking news: someone thought i was cute. (not white. it would have been more appropriate, but it was shocking enough) in other news, a pig was spotted zooming across the san francisco skyline, prompting the department of homeland security to authorize an orange alert. a press release also warned about "a rapid lowering of temperature near the earth's core"...
ROFL, I think MN as a whole has a smaller ratio. I haven't seen any AM/WF couples here.
Ugh, yeah I really do wonder with everyone here on how that book got published.
Commando_turned_MD
09-02-2004, 07:30 PM
I'm dating a white chick (50%viet/50% Euro....asian characteristics are not visible ) right now......She resemble that chick from Smallville......
I guess I should write a book as well.
truMp
09-02-2004, 08:57 PM
I'm dating a white chick (50%viet/50% Euro....asian characteristics are not visible ) right now......She resemble that chick from Smallville......
I guess I should write a book as well.
Are you a man or woman?
yoMAMA
09-02-2004, 11:23 PM
U.S visas are highly regarded in 3rd world countries
It's highly regarded in any world, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.
Deadpool
09-03-2004, 03:51 AM
You mean my usual tactics of showing off my really fly gear while driving a nice expensive car wont get white wimmins juices running?
Damn I guess I'm gonna need this book.
Commando_turned_MD
09-03-2004, 08:53 AM
Are you a man or woman?
Male...
kimpossible
09-03-2004, 10:00 AM
I'm dating a white chick (50%viet/50% Euro....asian characteristics are not visible ) right now......She resemble that chick from Smallville......
I guess I should write a book as well.
Seriously. As it stands right now men will be forced to buy two books just to date hapas!
We're all slutty and like to suck dick.
That's weird. My husband has attributed sluttiness and dick sucking affinity to my Japaneseness, not my whiteness. I haven't lived in an Asian country for any super long period of time, but I haven't found this sentiment to be among any number of Asian men in Asia and the AA ones I know grew up around so many whites in a white dominant society that they don't have a lot of sexual stereotypes about white women in general but break it down more into types of girls, usually the super hot ones that they want to believe are slutty and like to suck dick. Maybe they'd have a certain idea about blondes or sorority girls.
Although, if we traveled to one of those places Chinese guys go to get some Russian hookers I imagine we might get a few assumptions made of us.
- Pouring tea in your rice bowl, then bringing rice bowl to mouth, and declaring with a full mouth, "I love this shit!"
well, that is good shit.
missmeow
09-03-2004, 11:15 AM
Seriously. As it stands right now men will be forced to buy two books just to date hapas!
That's weird. My husband has attributed sluttiness and dick sucking affinity to my Japaneseness, not my whiteness. I haven't lived in an Asian country for any super long period of time, but I haven't found this sentiment to be among any number of Asian men in Asia and the AA ones I know grew up around so many whites in a white dominant society that they don't have a lot of sexual stereotypes about white women in general but break it down more into types of girls, usually the super hot ones that they want to believe are slutty and like to suck dick. Maybe they'd have a certain idea about blondes or sorority girls.
I don't know. I've heard Asian guys, even those on these types of forums say they'll go for WCs because they'll screw anything and do anything while they're doing it ;)
SunWuKong
09-03-2004, 11:44 AM
I don't know. I've heard Asian guys, even those on these types of forums say they'll go for WCs because they'll screw anything and do anything while they're doing it ;)
well, i can say that it's harder to get a fobby Chinese girl into bed than it is to get a white girl into bed. but that doesn't mean white girls are slutty. with Americanised Asian girls, there doesn't seem to be a pattern as far as i know.
Napoleon Chynamite
09-03-2004, 11:56 AM
Seriously, I've had more luck with white girls than Chinese girls, but maybe that's just because I'm a Twinkie.
PropellerheadCP
09-03-2004, 01:20 PM
Seriously, I've had more luck with white girls than Chinese girls, but maybe that's just because I'm a Twinkie.
Hmmm... same here.
I've had more luck with white girls, also. Unfortunately, most of them turned out to be Asianphiles. A lot of Chinese girls that I've come across prefer to date white men instead.
No, I'm not a Twinkie.
Napoleon Chynamite
09-03-2004, 01:53 PM
Hmmm... same here.
I've had more luck with white girls, also. Unfortunately, most of them turned out to be Asianphiles. A lot of Chinese girls that I've come across prefer to date white men instead.
No, I'm not a Twinkie.
I grew up around white girls (and white guys), so naturally I was attracted to white girls more than anything else even though now is not the case. When it came to meeting girls it's not like I even had a choice between white or Asian or black or Hispanic or whatever. Actually when I say white girls I guess I'm basically saying American girls which would include AA girls. Chinese FOB girls or 1.5 genners tend to be not as willing to talk or are more cautious, and they tend to stick within their own cliques. I also think Asian girls from Asia on the whole have a different concept of what constitutes dating or a good relationship. I don't think any of the white girls were Asiaphiles, er..at least...if they were, they hid it pretty darn well.
kimpossible
09-03-2004, 03:44 PM
I don't know. I've heard Asian guys, even those on these types of forums say they'll go for WCs because they'll screw anything and do anything while they're doing it ;)
Yeah, I don't know what to say either. I've been on my share of AA forums and the majority of comments about white women in general terms by Asian American guys run more towards 'getting' them to even out the IR dating disparity (which pisses off white women of course, and rightly should), seeing them as some sort of social affirmation, or comments about how it's socially easier to have a relationship with non-Asian girls because they don't have to negotiate the same level of expectations (as in it might get too serious too soon, parental expectations, cultural dating differences with 1.5ers or fobs) that might come from dating an AA female, or Asian female.
The majority of sexual stereotyping of non-Asian women I've encountered on AA websites usually involves latinas. I don't know how many other AA sites you've been on or which ones they were to support the idea that white women in general (the average white American woman, not celebrities or porn stars) are overwhelmingly stereotyped as slutty and dick sucking by the vast majority of Asian American or Asian men.
I know like any other relatively youthful hetero males, they do like hot young chicks regardless of ethnicity and guys will be guys. There is always going to be talk about how chicks of ___ ethnicity are hot or not.
PropellerheadCP
09-03-2004, 06:07 PM
Like my co-worker (she's German) said, on Wednesday, when discussing this girl that I asked out once, who turned out to be an Asianphile; now specifically obsessed with Koreans: "Why would you limit yourself in that way? It's never been that way for me. It's so superficial! (me: "And racist") And racist!"
That stated, from what I've experienced for the past year, I'd rather date Asian girls for the sake of not having to deal with a lot of crap like stares on the street, or meeting another "Asian wannabe" who "loves" Asian men. I'm so sick of it.
Great. So white, black and Asian women are all slutty dick suckers.
PropellerheadCP
09-03-2004, 06:26 PM
Great. So white, black and Asian women are all slutty dick suckers.
What? You're going to believe the words of guys who watch too much porn? Oh, wait... that's the majority of the guys out there, isn't it? *snap*
Either to degrade them, or to make them exotic, women of various backgrounds will be classified as "slutty dick suckers" by a lot of men, as long as male chauvinism exists.
achtungbaby
12-10-2004, 11:55 AM
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0919637264/qid=1102707698/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-8652470-4598553?v=glance&s=books
Feel Confident about approaching attractive White women, avoid making irreversible blunders... ***** How to Date a White Woman, A Practical Guide For Asian Men ***** Written by an Asian with Asian men in mind within the context of a western society. Provided inside are the knowledge, framework and tools necessary for an Asian man to understand, to plan and to put into action the steps to successfully date a white woman.
Napoleon Chynamite
12-10-2004, 12:07 PM
Hmmmmm, Christmas is coming soon, and I wouldn't mind doing a bit of reading over the vacation, especially if one of my good friends were to buy me a book. *hint* *hint* ^^
Banana
12-10-2004, 12:27 PM
I think I'll buy the book and use it as toilet reading material.
Cipherous
12-10-2004, 12:40 PM
Anybody want to start a YW book club?
rice cracker
12-10-2004, 01:11 PM
Sellout.
lethal
12-10-2004, 01:37 PM
I'm almost positive we discussed this book before. Lemme find the thread.
TB4000
12-10-2004, 01:44 PM
That cover is just....haha. Never mind the heavenly angelic glow they give her.
Cipherous
12-10-2004, 02:01 PM
Sellout.
I am just saying we should start a club...thats all
asvenus
12-10-2004, 03:49 PM
That cover is just....haha. Never mind the heavenly angelic glow they give her.
its more like propaganda material for the nazis and the preservation of the aryan race...perpetuating the idea that all white women are the most feminine and beautiful serene creatures that have ever walked the earth....im amazed that the author would want to taint her with his dirty yellow self :rolleyes:
yoMAMA
12-10-2004, 04:17 PM
Sellout.
No, it's called "rooting out racism, one hot chick at a time
:biggrin: "
kimpossible
12-10-2004, 04:21 PM
No, it's called "rooting out racism, one hot chick at a time
:biggrin: "
Then shouldn't it start with replacing the chick on the cover with a hot one?
Craig
12-10-2004, 04:26 PM
Then shouldn't it start with replacing the chick on the cover with a hot one?Maybe yoMAMA can't tell the difference since all white chicks look the same ?
yoMAMA
12-10-2004, 07:33 PM
Maybe yoMAMA can't tell the difference since all white chicks look the same ?
all whiteys look the same to me.....
:tongue:
achtungbaby
12-10-2004, 08:03 PM
Anybody want to start a YW book club?
I'm all ears.
Irezumi Kiss
12-12-2004, 12:54 PM
all whiteys look the same to me.....
:tongue:
Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith aren't exactly synonymous... :tongue:
Cipherous
12-12-2004, 08:48 PM
I'm all ears. each week, we discuss why we want white chicks so badly and then we discuss how to pick up white chicks.
if one of us is fortunate enough to snag one, we all have a gang bang.
each week, we discuss why we want white chicks so badly and then we discuss how to pick up white chicks.
if one of us is fortunate enough to snag one, we all have a gang bang.
i call sloppy seconds!
yoMAMA
12-12-2004, 10:10 PM
each week, we discuss why we want white chicks so badly and then we discuss how to pick up white chicks.
if one of us is fortunate enough to snag one, we all have a gang bang.
blonde?
brunettes?
redhead :eek:
:biggrin:
truMp
12-12-2004, 11:34 PM
lol this is hilarious
I don't see what is the big deal about white women. I've dated a few and they're nothing special. honestly i don't see what's the big deal about women in general. usually not worth the trouble.
i hope this book didn't sell too many copies. sounds really bad.
Chu Chi
12-13-2004, 05:10 AM
The ideal response to finding a book like this is to make a dust jacket that says, "How to dump an Asian man, by a white woman", stick it on a hardback book and leave it in an obvious place.
:)
I think the best respone is to ask a White woman if this Asian male authors suggestions are correct.
Or better yet, I would just ask a White woman what is important to her; and then try to produce that for her.
CC
YuheiCarreau
12-13-2004, 08:14 AM
I don't see what is the big deal about white women. I've dated a few and they're nothing special. honestly i don't see what's the big deal about women in general. usually not worth the trouble.
i hope this book didn't sell too many copies. sounds really bad.
Gee, that's subtle. "I don't see what is the big deal about white women. I've dated a few..."
How 'bout not rubbing it in for the rest of us?! :tongue:
Cipherous
12-13-2004, 10:44 AM
Gee, that's subtle. "I don't see what is the big deal about white women. I've dated a few..."
How 'bout not rubbing it in for the rest of us?! :tongue:
yeah seriously,
next thing you know hes telling us that diamond studded platinum belt buckles and 26 inch chrome spinners aren't what trick daddy and Master P makes em out to be.
pretense78
12-13-2004, 11:18 AM
See, if you had said you've never dated any and didn't see what the big deal was, your credibility to be nonchalant would've gone through the roof, bro.
Napoleon Chynamite
12-13-2004, 12:31 PM
I don't see what is the big deal about white women. I've dated a few and they're nothing special.
What's your secret? :biggrin:
Irezumi Kiss
12-13-2004, 12:37 PM
What's your secret? :biggrin:
Must be the Paco Rabanne cologne.
:tongue:
mr. x
12-15-2004, 04:57 PM
Sellout.
"How to date half of kim" by Radford
YuheiCarreau
12-15-2004, 07:55 PM
"How to date half of kim" by Radford
Subtitle: "preferably the bottom half"
TB4000
12-15-2004, 09:15 PM
Subtitle: "preferably the bottom half"
:eek: Good night, Vegas.
Cipherous
12-19-2004, 03:53 PM
Video from last weeks book club meeting, in case anybody is interested
http://www.himot.com/mazedandamazed.mov
Video from last weeks book club meeting, in case anybody is interested
http://www.himot.com/mazedandamazed.mov
hahahaha, wtf
sign me up for the book club
missmeow
12-19-2004, 11:02 PM
wtf. was that supposed to be serious? omg...thats like showgirls level of camp.
SunWuKong
12-20-2004, 07:00 AM
Video from last weeks book club meeting, in case anybody is interested
http://www.himot.com/mazedandamazed.mov
hahhahhah
i kept staring at his hair. and he can't even redeem his bad hair with a good song. how disappointing.
sinisterpanda
12-20-2004, 12:54 PM
Video from last weeks book club meeting, in case anybody is interested
http://www.himot.com/mazedandamazed.mov
that song was so annoying.............
TB4000
12-20-2004, 01:06 PM
That bullshit hurt my head, man. I'm sorry, it did.
You guys are just jealous because that guy has his own music video, woman, cool haircut, and car. He also has random shots of some guy welding.
kimpossible
12-20-2004, 04:26 PM
You guys are just jealous because that guy has his own music video, woman, cool haircut, and car.
I know I am.
Irezumi Kiss
12-20-2004, 05:16 PM
That yellow Bel Air was cool. And the slightly chunky, pasty white girl with the pixie haircut was slammin'. In a 2001 Williamsburg hipster kinda way. Somebody call Kanye West for this boy!
Deadpool
12-20-2004, 06:34 PM
Ahahahhahaahhaaaaaa......that video is classic
Cipherous
12-20-2004, 07:48 PM
wtf. was that supposed to be serious? omg...thats like showgirls level of camp.
girl girl you're on the run, please don't hiiiide from meeeeeee
girl girl, its no fun, your heart I need to seeeeeee
the little games that you play, well i dont play nooooo gameeeeeeeeees
.
kimpossible
12-20-2004, 09:04 PM
I love this part:
Customers who viewed this book also viewed "Hello My Big Big Honey!": Love Letters to Bangkok Bar Girls and Their Revealing Interviews by Dave Walker.
s1eve
12-22-2004, 06:27 PM
has william hung seen this video?
thaite
12-22-2004, 06:34 PM
gawd, it's like 1985 all over again.
TB4000
12-22-2004, 07:06 PM
Reminds me of that "White Girls" video. Anyone that's seen it knows exactly what I'm talking about.
thaite
12-22-2004, 07:33 PM
and if you like the Jewish girls... (http://boyoboy.ignitedminds.com/)
bulldog
12-23-2004, 12:46 AM
How To Date Any Woman Practical Answer: Drive a current model porsche, that is how idiot.
mr. x
12-25-2004, 12:33 AM
Reminds me of that "White Girls" video. Anyone that's seen it knows exactly what I'm talking about.
i have neither seen it nor know what you spake of
enlighten me
havent watched this video yet, should i or is it too painful to watch?
yoMAMA
12-25-2004, 01:23 PM
How To Date Any Woman Practical Answer: Drive a current model porsche, that is how idiot.
that probably won't hurt.
Balthus Dire
01-08-2005, 12:20 PM
Good Luck, but I don't need a book like that, but then again, it wasn't written for guys like me
pikachupacabra
02-11-2005, 02:30 PM
You know, something they REALLY need, and something I could have used in the past, would be a "how to date a women and make sure she doesnt' turn into a lesbian once you've totally messed up the relationship"
ChineseTourist
02-20-2005, 06:26 PM
newbs
lethal
02-21-2005, 04:53 PM
We're still talking about this? I thought we all had enough already.
haplesshobo
03-15-2005, 04:03 AM
after reading this whole thread, i cannot believe everybody is in such denial.
if you look at interracial couples, its always the hottest of the hot asian females that end up together with white or black men. rarely do you see a white woman with an asian male. and, when you do, the white woman is dumpy looking.
why is this? i think that would have been the more interesting thing to talk about instead of making fun of the book which was an easy target.
rice cracker
03-15-2005, 06:12 AM
if you look at interracial couples, its always the hottest of the hot asian females that end up together with white or black men.
PUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Deadpool
03-19-2005, 05:17 PM
if you look at interracial couples, its always the hottest of the hot asian females that end up together with white or black men. rarely do you see a white woman with an asian male. and, when you do, the white woman is dumpy looking.
why is this?
Really? I dunno about you but from what my peers and I observe we usually think white bois have permanant beer goggles on when they are checking out or dating Asian women.
THey seem to jump on anything that is remotely yellow.
Both are happening and probably things in between.
Irezumi Kiss
03-20-2005, 09:52 AM
we usually think white bois have permanant beer goggles on when they are checking out or dating Asian women.
I know you didn't really mean it this context, but when you write "boi" like that, it usually refers to tomboyish lesbians! Or maybe you DID mean it like that and you're being non-discriminatory on commenting about white people from all persuasions who lust after anything Asian! :tongue:
I wonder what are these boys attracted to when they see Asians? Asian looks or personality stereotypes?
Fireblade
03-20-2005, 11:39 AM
I wonder what are these boys attracted to when they see Asians? Asian looks or personality stereotypes?
Usually both, and the attraction of the female's cultural sterotypes. Or validation that they're cool because they're "thinking-outside-the-box". Hell, it's why I'm attracted to White Women. :rolleyes: (jk, btw)
lethal
03-20-2005, 02:04 PM
Alright...I tried to let this thread die a natural death, but I'm killing it now.
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