China

[robotic]

next week, i'll be working on a booklet project about......yes, China! i am south asian, and i haven't met many east asians so i have little idea about chinese traditions, culture, geographical features etc. i was hoping people could help me out on the cultural/historical/traditional bit of China. i would be very grateful if you could post about general things you find interesting about China's history or culture.

[ellsworth81]

Talk about the Opium War - both of them actually.

[SunWuKong]

next week, i'll be working on a booklet project about......yes, China! i am south asian, and i haven't met many east asians so i have little idea about chinese traditions, culture, geographical features etc. i was hoping people could help me out on the cultural/historical/traditional bit of China. i would be very grateful if you could post about general things you find interesting about China's history or culture.

who is your target audience and how big is this project supposed to be?

[hooligan]

you're taking on ... a lot. :D www.nationalgeographic.com ?

[yoMAMA]

there's so much to write about china's history and culture....

where do u want to start?

you can always write on the first emeperor of china....he's one badass mofo!

[and a bastard child, no less !] :biggrin:

[Tao]

write about zheng he and the ming dynasty, it's an interesting period, and an interesting character, since zheng was a macho muslim eunuch, how's that for unique history!

[Seamus]

I posted to the wrong thread, but couldn't delete this. . .

[SunWuKong]

just look around this forum itself. there are plenty of topics you can choose from.

and now, shameless self-promotion:
http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=7000
http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=9935
http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=9122

etc etc

[robotic]

its on an unbelieveably large scale ;_; it includes anything and everything you would want to include about China. thank you for the links, sunwukong, and the recommendations everyone! does 'zhuong guo' mean "central kingdom" in mandarin chinese?

[yoMAMA]

does 'zhuong guo' mean "central kingdom" in mandarin chinese?

yes....it does.

Zhong means central,

and Guo means country/nation/kingdom.....so

There you go....middle kingdom :wink:

[SunWuKong]

its on an unbelieveably large scale ;_; it includes anything and everything you would want to include about China. thank you for the links, sunwukong, and the recommendations everyone! does 'zhuong guo' mean "central kingdom" in mandarin chinese?

then i would recommend this (http://www.chinavoc.com/history/index.asp) for Chinese history. since you want to include everything, you can't really afford to go into much details about any particular period or event. i mean, we're talking about 4 or 5 thousand years here.

[robotic]

S.A = robotic

S.A. says:
i was hoping if you could help me with a project.
S.A. says:
its on china, one of the subjects we're learning in natural economy.
- DEaTh ArRiVaL - says:
ooooooooooooooo!! chin chin choo!
S.A. says:
*scratches head* chin chin?
- DEaTh ArRiVaL - says:
chineseeeeeeee !!

well (shrugs) you can hope.

[sageb1]

What about the amazing voyage of the defeated Shang people to Mexico?

Shang Dynasty
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/china/ancient_china/shang.html

Shang and Olmec?
http://www.taiwaninfo.org/info/sinorama/en/8605/605006e1.html

Olmec civilization
http://www.crystalinks.com/olmec.html

Though the African connection brings me out on a limb, ready to claim a fusion of Shang and Xi. This then leads to the possibility that global trade routes were established from 1300 years ago.

"The Olmec people called themselves Xi (pronounced Shi).


...


The Olmec Writing is Unique. The Signs are similar to the writing used by the Vai people of West Africa. The Olmecs spoke and aspect of the Manding (Malinke-Bambara) language spoken in West Africa."

The clincher lies in Mohenjo-daro in the Indus river valley.
http://www.geocities.com/olmec982000/Indus.html

Proto-Sahara people settled the region, lived in Central Asia and in China.

[experiment888]

you could talk about languages

...how there are so many.
...different types connected to different areas.
...symbol derivation and evolution.
...and other stuff :)

afterall, it is a central topic

[SunWuKong]

What about the amazing voyage of the defeated Shang people to Mexico?

Shang Dynasty
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/china/ancient_china/shang.html

Shang and Olmec?
http://www.taiwaninfo.org/info/sinorama/en/8605/605006e1.html

Olmec civilization
http://www.crystalinks.com/olmec.html

Though the African connection brings me out on a limb, ready to claim a fusion of Shang and Xi. This then leads to the possibility that global trade routes were established from 1300 years ago.

"The Olmec people called themselves Xi (pronounced Shi).


...


The Olmec Writing is Unique. The Signs are similar to the writing used by the Vai people of West Africa. The Olmecs spoke and aspect of the Manding (Malinke-Bambara) language spoken in West Africa."

The clincher lies in Mohenjo-daro in the Indus river valley.
http://www.geocities.com/olmec982000/Indus.html

Proto-Sahara people settled the region, lived in Central Asia and in China.

this is based on circumstantial evidence at best. for an all-encompassing project like the one robotic is doing, i personally think it's best to stick with what is widely accepted by most academics.

[Made in China]

Tang Dynasty all the way!

China is isolated, so thats why its culture lasted 4,000 years, Himalayas to the southwest, Desert to Northwest and Subartic temperatures to the North, disease ridden thick jungles to the South....

Two Greatest Dynasties are Han Dynasty, and Tang Dynasty. Ching, Ming both were horrible, bowed down to foreign rule like Russia, French, British, Portugese, Japan, and Germany.

People refer to themselves as Han people, or Tang people, In Cantonese, We call ourselves (Tong Yun) to refer to the Tang Era as the Glory (GOLDEN AGE PERIOD of CHINA) like the Nazis refered to the Aryans as the Master Race, Former Glory of the Germanic people.

I am a Tong Yun, most people are Han Yun.

Kublai Khan (Grandson of Genghis khan) conquered China, and started the Yuan Dynasty, and it was the Only time in Chinese history that it has been conquered by foreign nation.

The Mongolian empire was the largest Land empire in the world, stretching from Korea to Ukraine, and down to Vietnam, India, Pakistan, and into the Middle East, Iran, Syria. They penetrated deep into Russia.

I'll post more later on.

[sageb1]

So we're going keep it according to official sources, no questions asked?

Accepted. I'll take the original reply I made and repost it separately.

[Tao]

Kublai Khan (Grandson of Genghis khan) conquered China, and started the Yuan Dynasty, and it was the Only time in Chinese history that it has been conquered by foreign nation.

The Mongolian empire was the largest Land empire in the world, stretching from Korea to Ukraine, and down to Vietnam, India, Pakistan, and into the Middle East, Iran, Syria. They penetrated deep into Russia.

I'll post more later on.
you forgot to mention that the last dynasty was also ruled by minorities, the Qing dynasty by the Manchurians.

[sageb1]

What about the Turko-Mongolic people prior to the historic Yuan dynasty that the Yellow Emperor first built the Wall of China as a watchtower, a sort of line drawn in the sand? Huns and Turks arose out of their ranks to invade Central Asia, Europe and the Middle East.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/mongols.html
http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Mongolia.html

[seanp]

Tang Dynasty all the way!

China is isolated, so thats why its culture lasted 4,000 years, Himalayas to the southwest, Desert to Northwest and Subartic temperatures to the North, disease ridden thick jungles to the South....

Two Greatest Dynasties are Han Dynasty, and Tang Dynasty. Ching, Ming both were horrible, bowed down to foreign rule like Russia, French, British, Portugese, Japan, and Germany.

People refer to themselves as Han people, or Tang people, In Cantonese, We call ourselves (Tong Yun) to refer to the Tang Era as the Glory (GOLDEN AGE PERIOD of CHINA) like the Nazis refered to the Aryans as the Master Race, Former Glory of the Germanic people.

I am a Tong Yun, most people are Han Yun.

Kublai Khan (Grandson of Genghis khan) conquered China, and started the Yuan Dynasty, and it was the Only time in Chinese history that it has been conquered by foreign nation.

The Mongolian empire was the largest Land empire in the world, stretching from Korea to Ukraine, and down to Vietnam, India, Pakistan, and into the Middle East, Iran, Syria. They penetrated deep into Russia.

I'll post more later on.


Vietnam was never part of the Yuan dynasty. Only Han, Tang (inherited from Han), and 20 years of Ming dynasty controlled Vietnam.