Asians and Pop music

[John0101]

Why do they?

One time I saw a group of FOBs (they appear to be chinese fobs) in a beatup old civic blasting a backstreetboy song, I was like :eek: . My korean friend said he lives next to two viet fobs and every morning he wakes up to boy bands, kpop music, jpop music, etc.

Why do fobs listen to girly music?

[kitty]

That's kind of a generalization, isn't it? I don't know any FOBs who like boy bands...

[John0101]

wow are you serious? All the fobs I know love boy bands (except those fobs who try to act black), i think it stems from asian pop music.

[thaite]

i know a few.

[artsfartsyjanet]

i don't know any.

[rice cracker]

Why does *anybody like the Back Street Boys?

[sandra]

That's kind of a generalization, isn't it? I don't know any FOBs who like boy bands...

backstreet boys was popular in hong kong way before the u.s. even heard of them :)

[SunWuKong]

what's not to love about boy bands? :smile:

[AngryABCGirl]

What the heck? I use to live in fob country and this never happened.

[DragonKnight]

Why does *anybody like the Back Street Boys?
Exactly.

[SunWuKong]

alright serious answer now.

i can only speak for Chinese people, but just take a look at Chinese music. it's full of pop music with mass marketting. that's exactly how boy bands are like.

so there you go. they like boy bands because of mass marketting.

[deez nuts]

don't knock it.

they got good beats.

i own most of their CD's.

[John0101]

alright serious answer now.

i can only speak for Chinese people, but just take a look at Chinese music. it's full of pop music with mass marketting. that's exactly how boy bands are like.

so there you go. they like boy bands because of mass marketting.

Man I totally agree, you know whats werid... It's ok for FOB females and FOB males to listen to the same type of music (the romantic sobby songs), does that mean gender roles in Asian countries are disappearing, nope. But if your a white male american you can't listen to Backstreetboys without being called a "fag".

[AliBabaIncorporated]

i can only speak for Chinese people, but just take a look at Chinese music. it's full of pop music with mass marketting. that's exactly how boy bands are like.

so there you go. they like boy bands because of mass marketting.
which leads to the obvious question of why Chinese people like that stuff.

[SunWuKong]

which leads to the obvious question of why Chinese people like that stuff.

why they buy into mass marketting?

i mean, i've been asking for a long time now why people like Kelly Chen.

[mr. x]

my cousin licked the BB before they were even big in the U.S.

apparently she asked my bro if they were big and at the time they were only doing the circuit in europe/asia

few months later i see em accepting an award on nickolodean (sp?) kids choice awards and i was like "ggrreeeeat"

[Tao]

Why do they?

One time I saw a group of FOBs (they appear to be chinese fobs) in a beatup old civic blasting a backstreetboy song, I was like :eek: . My korean friend said he lives next to two viet fobs and every morning he wakes up to boy bands, kpop music, jpop music, etc.

Why do fobs listen to girly music?
hey hey hey, bsb is NOT girly music, i have all their albums...that's right I said it, i'm man enough and secure enough in my sexual orientation to say it. Plus they have good music. "I don't care who you are..."

[ChinaLama]

hey hey hey, bsb is NOT girly music, i have all their albums...that's right I said it, i'm man enough and secure enough in my sexual orientation to say it. Plus they have good music. "I don't care who you are..."

no need to get so defensive as to say they make good music.

[golden_buns]

no need to get so defensive as to say they make good music.


BSB suck, I hope they burn in hell

[Kennyb]

why they buy into mass marketting?

i mean, i've been asking for a long time now why people like Kelly Chen.

Actually Kelly Chen isn't a bad singer, let alone she is very tall for a female in HK - that is actually one of the reason she became famous as a singer. I heard that she came from a very rich background, so she had easy connection to get where she is as a singer.

Since the slangs in UK differs from you lot in the State, what does "FOBs" mean? :confused:

[kitty]

Actually Kelly Chen isn't a bad singer, let alone she is very tall for a female in HK - that is actually one of the reason she became famous as a singer. I heard that she came from a very rich background, so she had easy connection to get where she is as a singer.

Since the slangs in UK differs from you lot in the State, what does "FOBs" mean? :confused:

FOBs=Fresh Off the Boat.

i.e. recent immigrants.

[teaz0r]

it's because most boybands are huge in asia.
and subcultural music genres haven't really
made their way on over to asia, so most of
the mainstream music from the international
scene is... all like poppy... i guess.

[Kennyb]

it's because most boybands are huge in asia.
and subcultural music genres haven't really
made their way on over to asia, so most of
the mainstream music from the international
scene is... all like poppy... i guess.

True, since the only music channel they have access that shows non-asian music are the American Billboard top 100. I think they know more about US music than UK music actually.

Thanks for the clarification of what FOBs stands for.

[Tao]

BSB suck, I hope they burn in hell
bitch, and to think i had wanted to pinch those golden buns

[golden_buns]

bitch, and to think i had wanted to pinch those golden buns

ughh, BSB contamination.

Shoo, go away

[PUReSoul]

wut do you think they should listen to then???

[Blue dice]

What is it with most asian countries and their infatuation with bubblegum pop and "artists" whose whole gimmick is appeal to the opposite sex? Most of it doesn't even have substance just the same convoluted "woa ai ni" songs repackaged and reformatted with different pretty boys/girls on the album. Don't get me wrong the U.S. does this too with boy bands, Spears, Aguilera and what not but there's also lots of other variety too like:

Rock, metal, grunge, alternative, hip hop, etc..

When was the last time you heard something REALLY different in the asian music scene? Like Nirvana type different or a band that wasn't tailor made to appeal to delicate consumer sensibilities. Ironically, I heard China has developed an underground alternative rock scene. However, I haven't seen anything in more prosperous asian nations like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. where money and youth rebellion should naturally lead to new music styles.

Do you guys think it's based on culture or what?

[teaz0r]

mmm well music that is "REALLY" different normally comes
from a subculture within the mass, no? like you said, china
has developed an alternative rock scene, well, so have other
countries, of course it's not super out there like main stream
music, thus being "alternative". it's the same everywhere, i'm
sure that there are more people in america that know of madonna
and britney spears as opposed to ben weasel and jughead.

in southeast asia alone, there's mad rock scenes and a subculture
that's growing so fast that's ready to burst. i've only started going
to shows and concerts only recently but there's such a strong following
behind the music.

good friends of mine are in bands here, From the Makers of Casablanca,
The Eastbound Downers (http://www.eastbound-downers.com) , The Darlings (http://www.bamathai.com) , Futon (http://www.rehabisfab.com) and there are other bands like
The Get Gang Band, Adulterers, Young Sing, Satyr, Bombhead Mania
and Apartmentkhunpa. There's also King Ly Chee from Hong Kong and
a whole bunch of other bands from singapore and malaysia.

so it's not that there isn't alternative music scenes, there -are-, but
you have to enjoy that particular sort of music, because it's "REALLY"
different--not mainstream.


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Crux http://www.crux-band.rocks.it/
Bikini http://www.geocities.com/bikiniband/
The Heretic Angels http://www.hereticangels.com/
Carried the Weight http://www.geocities.com/tkazuya92000/
Futon/Rehab http://www.rehabisfab.com

Showcases:
Nuface http://www.thde.com/nuface/

Labels/Distribution:
Elephant Eye Records http://www.elephanteyerecords.com/
Bama Records http://www.bamathai.com/
New Destiny Records http://www.newdestinyrec.com/
Bakery Music http://www.bakerymusic.com/
Small Room Records http://www.smallroom.co.th/
Groovalax http://www.groovalax.com/

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Dek Thai Jai Hardcore http://dek.has.it/
KK Underground http://go.th/kkunder
Metal Thai http://www.metalthai.com/
Indy Cafe http://www.indycafe.com/
City Blue http://www.cityblue.net/
Click Radio http://www.thisisclick.com/
Malscene (Malaysian scene) http://www.malscene.net/
Audioreload (Singapore scene) http://www.audioreload.com/

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[d-boy]

What is it with most asian countries and their infatuation with bubblegum pop and "artists" whose whole gimmick is appeal to the opposite sex? Most of it doesn't even have substance just the same convoluted "woa ai ni" songs repackaged and reformatted with different pretty boys/girls on the album. Don't get me wrong the U.S. does this too with boy bands, Spears, Aguilera and what not but there's also lots of other variety too like:

Rock, metal, grunge, alternative, hip hop, etc..

When was the last time you heard something REALLY different in the asian music scene? Like Nirvana type different or a band that wasn't tailor made to appeal to delicate consumer sensibilities. Ironically, I heard China has developed an underground alternative rock scene. However, I haven't seen anything in more prosperous asian nations like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. where money and youth rebellion should naturally lead to new music styles.

Do you guys think it's based on culture or what?


dude, there are mad underground rock scenes in both Korea and Japan.

you may ONLY hear about the pop groups, because they are the most mainstream.

in addition, the US is a large, wealthy country that can support a variety of muscial scenes. how can you compare Korea and Japan (countries the sizes of New Jersey and California, respectively) with the US? thats sort of a silly comparison, dont you think?

[krome]

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[Blue dice]

dude, there are mad underground rock scenes in both Korea and Japan.

you may ONLY hear about the pop groups, because they are the most mainstream.

in addition, the US is a large, wealthy country that can support a variety of muscial scenes. how can you compare Korea and Japan (countries the sizes of New Jersey and California, respectively) with the US? thats sort of a silly comparison, dont you think?
Size of the country doesn't always indicate the amount of musical variety or talent. Look at the UK for instance they have a little of everything and a lot of groundbreaking rock/metal came from there.

Anyways, you're right I haven't heard of many of these underground scenes and i'm glad someone posted a bunch of links. I just wish some of them were more popular than the overwhelming number of j-pop/korean pop groups coming out.

[teaz0r]

I just wish some of them were more popular than the overwhelming number of j-pop/korean pop groups coming out.
but if they became more popular than the poppy ones...
then THEY become the mainstream stuff.... no?

then what's the point of having an alternative scene?

pop music is so popular because it doesn't require a brain to listen to it.
and they play what? 3 different chords over and over again?

[Blue dice]

but if they became more popular than the poppy ones...
then THEY become the mainstream stuff.... no?

Well that's true in a sense but not all stuff is bad when it hits the mainstream I just don't like pop.

then what's the point of having an alternative scene?

There will always be an alternative underground scene..

[kitty]

Thread merged with other thread on Asians and backstreet boys

[SunWuKong]

i'm sure there are underground scenes in countries where you don't think they exist. i know there's a growing DIY/underground scene in HK, but HKers are such trend-followers that it's difficult to get an audience without mass marketting. i also read that there's a thriving underground scene in Osaka. i'd love to visit some day. but basically, i think you don't hear about underground/DIY music because even in those countries, it would be difficult to find them unless you put forth some effort to do so. it's not like the US where people have a pretentious fetish for anything that is billed as "art" or "alternative", so it's easy to market your work.