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SunWuKong
11-08-2003, 03:39 AM
India frets as China and Pakistan embrace
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE - Pakistan President General Pervez Musharraf's three-day visit to China has concluded with the two sides signing about eight agreements. While the visit did see the usual cooing and billing that marks Sino-Pakistan interactions, Musharraf described the relationship as being "deeper than the oceans, higher than the mountains", that they failed to finalize a nuclear deal has been noted with some satisfaction by their common neighbor, India.

The agreements that were signed include a preferential trade agreement, a US$500 million loan from China to Pakistan and an extradition treaty. But more significant than what they did sign is what they did not. In the runup to Musharraf's visit, media reports indicated that a deal on Chinese assistance to the construction of a nuclear power plant in Pakistan was in the cards. "China has agreed to build a 300 megawatt civilian power plant in Pakistan," the Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokesperson Masood Khan had told the Agence France Presse news agency in Islamabad. That agreement, however, did not materialize.

Musharraf's visit to Beijing comes close on the heels of a great leap forward in Sino-Indian relations. In June, Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee visited China. During that trip, the two Asian giants sent out unambiguous signals that they were keen to transform their troubled relations. Delhi and Beijing have since taken steps forward towards resolving their border dispute. Last month, an attempt to resolve the border question through a new political framework was made when the first round of talks between "special representatives" of the two countries took place in Delhi. Bilateral ties will touch another high next week when India and China hold joint naval exercises.


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yoMAMA
11-10-2003, 02:55 PM
India needs to sort out their own big mess they call 'democracy'...........

Vedic_Warrior
12-12-2004, 11:14 AM
India needs to sort out their own big mess they call 'democracy'...........


Who said India's democracy is a mess?

Cipherous
12-12-2004, 04:43 PM
Who said India's democracy is a mess?
yomama

yoMAMA
12-12-2004, 06:08 PM
yomama

LOL that was good :biggrin:

Cipherous
12-12-2004, 08:43 PM
Well, atleast India has a democracy. Thats better than a dictatorship or military regime, which is the case for many countries throughout the world.

Also, India seems to be making some significant strides so it should be an interesting century to come.

yoMAMA
12-12-2004, 10:07 PM
Well, atleast India has a democracy. Thats better than a dictatorship or military regime, which is the case for many countries throughout the world.

Also, India seems to be making some significant strides so it should be an interesting century to come.

They may be a "democracy", but a large % of their populations are still disenfranchised, such as the dalits "untouchables" and the caste system is still pretty prevelant from what I hear and read.

HeyaB!
12-12-2004, 10:20 PM
India needs to sort out their own big mess they call 'democracy'...........

As opposed to; multi million-dollar lobby groups, non-compulsory voting, questionable ballot counting and the outcome being based upon electoral colleges as opposed to majority votes?

yoMAMA
12-12-2004, 10:23 PM
As opposed to; multi million-dollar lobby groups, non-compulsory voting, questionable ballot counting and the outcome being based upon electoral colleges as opposed to majority votes?

our system needs reform, too.

HeyaB!
12-12-2004, 10:33 PM
our system needs reform, too.

I doubt there's any form of democracy on the planet which doesn't have some form of corruption or institutional distortion bubbling under (or in some cases on top of) the surface.

..then again, scandalous democracy is so much more interesting to follow, just look at the Ukraine.

Vedic_Warrior
12-13-2004, 11:03 AM
They may be a "democracy", but a large % of their populations are still disenfranchised, such as the dalits "untouchables" and the caste system is still pretty prevelant from what I hear and read.

Actually, most of the population gets proper representation and say in the government. The dalits are perhaps one of the more represented groups because of their status as being under-represented.

Caste system does exist, but its not a creation of the government, its more of a society related thing.