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nudel
10-09-2003, 02:59 PM
are there any special forces type people on this board. just wondering what to expect, training and such. i'm seriously considering doing the airborne to special forces route. let me know your experiences.
ChinaLama
10-09-2003, 03:02 PM
moving to business and careers.
kimpossible
10-09-2003, 06:16 PM
I blew my knee out in seal training.
mr. x
10-09-2003, 10:30 PM
i strained an elbow watching GI Jane
also i play CS now and then
pfc beansprout
10-10-2003, 08:09 AM
~nooooo..u don't wanna join the list of babykillers! if u seriously do, i can kinda give u some details...i got a friend who recently left our unit to go special forces...
errr...i think this is the route (get more info)
-go to basic training...you better do good on the tests (Physical and whatnot)
-go to airborne school...there's air assault too which is shorter, and i think both are at Benning. Airborne school is no joke man, i think it's 3 weeks and you're gonna be humpin for miles!
-special forces training: i think this one is at ft. bragg..errr, guess i don't know as much as i thought...
gluck!
kimpossible
10-10-2003, 12:06 PM
Don't listen to beansprout. I say do it. Because I don't want to and we still need people to do it. Help yourself to special ops.
I will say this about seeing a recruiter though... be damned careful about the contract you sign. Recruiters can promise you the moon and the stars but once you sign the contract you're hosed. Might find yourself chipping paint off old ships or spend your glorious enlisted years managing a warehouse.
nudel
10-10-2003, 12:34 PM
Don't listen to beansprout. I say do it. Because I don't want to and we still need people to do it. Help yourself to special ops.
I will say this about seeing a recruiter though... be damned careful about the contract you sign. Recruiters can promise you the moon and the stars but once you sign the contract you're hosed. Might find yourself chipping paint off old ships or spend your glorious enlisted years managing a warehouse.
thanks for the info and warnings. yeah ive talked to recruiters and i find they are as close to used car salesmens as you can get. i've still got a year left in grad school so i have that time to deside. i want to do the reserves. apparently they're allowing reserves into the special forces training for the army. its about a 15 month training schedule and i'm pushing the limit on the max age of 29 when i graduate. i'm sure the rents will love the phd son toting an m6. i figure this. i want to do it. i'll be out of school and between jobs. why not spend 15 months pushing yourself.
kimpossible
10-10-2003, 01:15 PM
oh my god... i thought you were a high school kid who watched a couple of war movies then got excited. this changes things.
Were I in your place, I would think long and hard about joining any special operations that go on covert missions. If you're a loner and don't plan on having a family then it will boil down to you doing what your parents don't want you to do. But if you plan on settling down, I personally wouldn't advocate a career in anything like SORT team whether military or civil.
Trying to be a family man and trained killer that takes orders from the government (lets not candy coat it) forces a lot of guys to live double lives. You get sent places you can't tell your family, you have to be mindful of the intel you are privy to and be careful about not bringing work home, and for a lot of guys it turns them into PTSD assholes.
And it's not just going to be 15 months of pushing yourself between jobs then whammo you're back to corporate environment but feel great that you're GI Joe and met all the manly challenges like you see in the Marines recruiting commercial. The days of trained soldiers staying in reserve only was back in the 1990s. Today, if the military gets ahold of an intelligent, educated guy that can physically make it through special ops training - start learning Arabic dude because your ass will be shipped to Middle East. Unless you get special attention because you know an Asian language and in that case maybe you'll be assigned to intelligence gathering on Korea, China, etc.
If you want to push yourself or get training, there are other ways to do it without the government calling you into active duty the rest of your life. There is an Isreali commando school that trains civilians.
Just out of curiousity, because you by no means owe me an answer, but do you want enlist for years to come? Do you want to fight? I'm not going to judge what you want to do but it's not realistic to think you'll get all that training and just be asked to play wargames on the weekend in America. I don't want to assume that's what you're saying, so I'm asking.
nudel
10-10-2003, 01:30 PM
no no, i do realize the risks and the family thing and absolutely no, i don't want to do it just so i can feel good about myself. i do realize that reserve does not equal weekend warrior anymore. i don't mind it, i feel i can do it and that someone should do it. however i have thought about what the military will do when they get a hold of me. i'm asian but cant speak a word of any asian languages. i have a bs currently in biosciences, i'm a journeyman model/instrument maker (which means i can make anything out of nothing) and i'll soon have a phd in engineering, whew. all under the age of 28. special ops max age currently for the army is 29 so i'll be grandpa going in. and yes i want to enlist. at the moment i have nobody to care for and i hardly see my family so its not like i'm subconsciously trying to piss them off. for some reason i have a stong draw to it.
kimpossible
10-10-2003, 02:31 PM
i have a bs currently in biosciences, i'm a journeyman model/instrument maker (which means i can make anything out of nothing) and i'll soon have a phd in engineering, whew. all under the age of 28. special ops max age currently for the army is 29 so i'll be grandpa going in. and yes i want to enlist. at the moment i have nobody to care for and i hardly see my family so its not like i'm subconsciously trying to piss them off. for some reason i have a stong draw to it.
damn. if i was single i think i'd be all over you.
edit: and you'd have a really hot body after all that military training
BigLew
10-10-2003, 02:46 PM
Don't enlist go for an officer program, if your enlisted the fact that you have a degree will go to waste. You can become an officer and still try out for special forces.
nudel
10-10-2003, 02:57 PM
damn. if i was single i think i'd be all over you.
edit: and you'd have a really hot body after all that military training
hehe, i havnt done anything yet. the hard part is getting the courage to actually sign off the contract. but i'm not too worried about it, i feel that i've been motivated up to now. i think i'm one of those that has to get into something and go full out, has to be doing something and accomplishing things all the time. as for the military bit, i think its somehow due to the fact i was born on base.
people keep telling me go for the commission. but i've always felt you have to start from the bottom and work your way up. i don't care that i have a degree, its a totally different career field. i've worked my way through apprentice to journeyman to engineer. i think though, my ultimate goal would be to make warrant officer, not a commission.
kimpossible
10-10-2003, 03:05 PM
people keep telling me go for the commission. but i've always felt you have to start from the bottom and work your way up. i don't care that i have a degree, its a totally different career field. i've worked my way through apprentice to journeyman to engineer. i think though, my ultimate goal would be to make warrant officer, not a commission.
okay. nudel likes pain. lots of it.
i say you should go become a shaolin monk. you can work your way up there too.
kimpossible
10-10-2003, 03:06 PM
Don't enlist go for an officer program, if your enlisted the fact that you have a degree will go to waste. You can become an officer and still try out for special forces.
he doesn't want to be a desk monkey.
pfc beansprout
10-11-2003, 09:12 AM
Don't listen to beansprout. I say do it. Because I don't want to and we still need people to do it. Help yourself to special ops.
I will say this about seeing a recruiter though... be damned careful about the contract you sign. Recruiters can promise you the moon and the stars but once you sign the contract you're hosed. Might find yourself chipping paint off old ships or spend your glorious enlisted years managing a warehouse.
"don't listen to beansprout?" wtf, if u actually paid attention to what i finished writing, i gave him tips and said "Good luck." riiiggght.......
anyhow, yeah, that's another route you can do man, become an officer (but i think you still might have to go to basic training like the regular enlistees THEN, got to OCS-officer canidate school). being an officer, you'll have more liberty to where/what you do next. you can go get airborne training, mos schools, etc. oh, btw, if u do decide to do it, GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING. EVERYTHING...~later
kimpossible
10-11-2003, 11:44 AM
"don't listen to beansprout?" wtf, if u actually paid attention to what i finished writing, i gave him tips and said "Good luck." riiiggght.......
oh, i was joking. i already wrote that i thought he was a high school kid who watched black hawk down or something and then got excited. i didn't realize he was serious until later on.
sorry if i really offended you? didn't mean to.
ren28
10-12-2003, 08:51 PM
There are some pretty cool shows on satellite tv... can't remember which channel it was but it was probably one of the Discovery channels or History channels. It shows how hard the training is, which is involved, etc.
Commando_turned_MD
10-12-2003, 09:03 PM
are there any special forces type people on this board. just wondering what to expect, training and such. i'm seriously considering doing the airborne to special forces route. let me know your experiences.
If you are serious PM me or email me at
uclabruins1996@yahoo.com
Or if you're in LA (CALI) area, stop by UCLA ROTC BAT..
Or you can find me at the Med school.
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