Ostomy Bags

[purezero]

I think they're called ostomy bags, the things that connect to a hole in your body that lead to the large intestine or whatever?

My substitute teacher in my Biology class told us two stories about his friends who graduated med-school or something. They were both about ostomy bags.

The first one was about this guy, where the tube (I guess) was blocked and the doctors couldn't do anything about it. So they gave him a syringe of some sort to help unclog it. So he was at his girlfriend's house (everything is white, the walls, furniture, everything) and he starts fiddling with the bag. Because of all the pressure, it burst and everything shot all over the walls.

The second one is worse. The guy was doing his rounds in a prison hospital ward and there was this one patient who had all sorts of STDs infecting the hole that the bag connects to (the stoma?). The worst was the herpes, there was gonnorhea and siphylis too, I think, at least from what he said. After the people questioned him on how that happened, he confessed that the other prisoners paid him so that they could have sex with the hole.

:sick:

Anyway, I was just wondering, if you had this bag, do you need it forever? What would happen if you just took the bag out? Would you really just have a hole?

[hooligan]

uh, wow, but yeah, i've seen cows with those holes in them. if you keep it open i guess it stays that way. kind of like piercings.

[applehead]

i have no idea what they are.

[ism]

i have no idea what they are.

If your colon or rectum is messed up, and poop can't go through it, it needs to bypass them. So a hole is made in your tummy somewhere and the poop skips the colon and goes into a bag. You could also have a messed up urinary tract and the pee skips it and goes into a bag.

My dad doubts the prison story. He said the stench is much worse than normal poop, because especially with the one that is done with the small intestine, it's not fully processed. It's like superpoop. He said you gotta find a room all to yourself and get it ventilated when you change the bag. He thinks most people wouldn't be able to handle the stench. But I said prisoners get desperate. And how does the person with the bag handle the smell. Cos if he passed out. Yeah.

I didn't get to ask him. But. Is it even safe to penetrate the stoma. Cos it like. You're messing with internals. What if you hit a kidney or something.

Rainbows and pretty flowers, butterflies fluttering and children laughing in green grass as the sun shines above. Such a lovely day.

[YuheiCarreau]

It's colostomy bag, not ostomy bag.

And ew.

[ism]

It's colostomy bag, not ostomy bag.

A colostomy is a type of ostomy (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=ostomy).

[mr. x]

i hate to bring it up but my grandpa in taiwan had some kinda cancer and these days i think he needs to empty his bladder and umm, other stuff by manually taking it out

duno his exact condition though i could ask my mom

[YuheiCarreau]

A colostomy is a type of ostomy (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=ostomy).

Yes, but the bag is still just called a colostomy bag... As far as I know, anyway.

[coagulated fat]

My dad calls me colostomy bag as a term of endearment.

[Fireblade]

uh, wow, but yeah, i've seen cows with those holes in them. if you keep it open i guess it stays that way. kind of like piercings.

Davis Cow's have them too. I've seen them. The holes are big. You can fit your entire arm in there to their stomachs. :sick:

[coagulated fat]

Davis Cow's have them too. I've seen them. The holes are big. You can fit your entire arm in there to their stomachs. :sick:
Yeah, and then you get a sticker that says you stuck your hand through a cow so everyone knows you did it! But sadly I never got a chance to, the animal rights activists got to them first :cry:

[Green_Circle]

Davis Cow's have them too. I've seen them. The holes are big. You can fit your entire arm in there to their stomachs. :sick:

Popularly known as 'fisting'. It's all the rage these days.


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[kboy75]

i had surgery involving my intestines last July, and I almost had to wear a bag temporarily, but luckily it wasn't as serious as the doctors initially thought. my doctor said that I would have been theyoungest guy he ever had to put a bag on.

[deez nuts]

The second one is worse. The guy was doing his rounds in a prison hospital ward and there was this one patient who had all sorts of STDs infecting the hole that the bag connects to (the stoma?). The worst was the herpes, there was gonnorhea and siphylis too, I think, at least from what he said. After the people questioned him on how that happened, he confessed that the other prisoners paid him so that they could have sex with the hole.

:sick:




hahaaha your bio teacher is fucked up.

that's gotta suck ass being a prison MD.

Anyway, I was just wondering, if you had this bag, do you need it forever? What would happen if you just took the bag out? Would you really just have a hole?


depends on the patient and the case.

the temporary stomas are usually created if the intestinal tract is blocked and can't be properly prepped for surgery. but, they're commonly used in post-op to allow an operative site to heal properly without irritation from the passage of stool.

permanent stomas are used mostly in the cases of aggressive advanced cases of rectal cancer where an abdominal perineal resection is done. the anus, rectum and sigmoid colon is removed and a permanent colostomy (sigmoid) is created. it's also used in cases of inflammatory bowel disease.

[deez nuts]

Yes, but the bag is still just called a colostomy bag... As far as I know, anyway.

colostomy bag got used cuz colostomies is the more popular type of ostomy performed.

otherwise, we just call it a pouch or bag.

[applehead]

what about the cows?
what's their story?

[kboy75]

^there are these cows at UC Davis (i think ) where they made holes in their side so they can examine the contents of the stomachs. You can just take off the lid and reach right in and see the cud. the hole has a metal rim, and yup, there is a lid... it's pretty amazing.

[Irezumi Kiss]

Y'know something, this thread is PERFECT for making an unnecessary erection disappear....

[kitty]

If your colon or rectum is messed up, and poop can't go through it, it needs to bypass them. So a hole is made in your tummy somewhere and the poop skips the colon and goes into a bag. You could also have a messed up urinary tract and the pee skips it and goes into a bag.

My dad doubts the prison story. He said the stench is much worse than normal poop, because especially with the one that is done with the small intestine, it's not fully processed. It's like superpoop.

It should be watery-er because the large intestines take up the water, right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

[deez nuts]

It should be watery-er because the large intestines take up the water, right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

it plays a role in water absorption. but, it also plays a role in storage of food residue.

the most important function of the large intestine is that it has contractions called high amplitude propagating contractions (HAPC) that eventually triggers a bowel movement.

[ism]

It should be watery-er because the large intestines take up the water, right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

From: http://www.geocities.com/mr-ostomy/Ileostomy1.html

The new ileostomate may find it difficult to believe that life without a colon can be completely healthy. To understand this one needs to know what is the normal function of the colon, also called the large intestine, which has been removed.

This organ is only found in land animals. Its major functions are to absorb water from the food residue and store it until elimination. When animals first moved from the sea to the land, they moved from a world where water was plentiful to one where it might be very scarce. The necessary adaptation to survival in this environment is a colon as the means of avoiding dehydration.

The only other substance that is known to be absorbed from the colon is salt. All the other things we get from our food which we need for energy and health are absorbed from the small intestine. The small intestine is unaffected by the usual operations for such diseases as ulcerative colitis or familiar polyposis.

For an ileostomy:
The average output per day for an ileostomy is about a pint. It is composed of 90% water and 10% solids. Normal fecal matter is 70% water and 30% solids. Overeating will increase the output of an ileostomy the same as it will for a normal person.

The fat and nitrogen content of the ileal discharge is normal. This indicates that the food absorption in the ileostomate is normal. Additional studies are being conducted as to the exact subtle differences in how absorption is handled for all types of nutrients.

Salt output from an ileostomy is high, around one teaspoon a day. A person with an intact colon has almost no salt output in the feces. The body seems to compensate for this salt and water loss by discharging less salt and water than normal through the urinary tract and through perspiration. The intake of too much salt is to be avoided in that it increases ileal output.


There's a personal experience here that talks about a double ostomy (pretty graphic): http://www.uoa.org/discussion/genboard3/messages/435.html

[deez nuts]

are we done talking about gastroenterology and gastrointestinal procedures? alrighty then.