Acknowledge AzN Co-workers even if you don't know em?

[TTChino]

Just curious, I work in a city with a big AzN population, but surprisingly in my office there are very few AzN men or women. The AzN men that I don't know don't usually say what's up or do anything special when I walk past them in the hall. But the AzN women, even if I have no idea who they are always give a little nod, smile, or whatever. I'm in an office with a pretty large population and we run the whole gamut in here from techies, sales, to finance managers and administrative assistants. Plus we have whats called an FFO (flexible field office) so it's not weird to walk in and have some strange person sitting next to you for the day or week.

Does anyone else go outta their way to acknowledge your fellow AzN office mates? I ain't really friendly to anyone I dunno in the office, if they exchange some pleasantries in the bathroom or the elevator I don't ignore em or anything tho.

[achtungbaby]

Just curious, I work in a city with a big AzN population, but surprisingly in my office there are very few AzN men or women. The AzN men that I don't know don't usually say what's up or do anything special when I walk past them in the hall. But the AzN women, even if I have no idea who they are always give a little nod, smile, or whatever. I'm in an office with a pretty large population and we run the whole gamut in here from techies, sales, to finance managers and administrative assistants. Plus we have whats called an FFO (flexible field office) so it's not weird to walk in and have some strange person sitting next to you for the day or week.

Does anyone else go outta their way to acknowledge your fellow AzN office mates? I ain't really friendly to anyone I dunno in the office, if they exchange some pleasantries in the bathroom or the elevator I don't ignore em or anything tho.Fortunately for me, in almost every single office I've worked in, I might be the only Asian along with like one other person in an entirely different department, but sooner or later our paths will sorta cross and we'll always acknowledge each other in an either open, spoken sorta way or silently, like me staring with my mouth agape...

[SunWuKong]

the colleagues that i go to lunch with and sometimes hang out outside of work with are almost exclusively Asian. i'm an ethnocentric racist.

[TTChino]

the colleagues that i go to lunch with and sometimes hang out outside of work with are almost exclusively Asian. i'm an ethnocentric racist.

Most of the AzN's in my office are either too old, or they're a bunch of herbs. There's like 2 maybe 3 attractive AzN women in the office but I'm too young for em. Tho I would be willing to be a young boy toy.

[deez nuts]

Does anyone else go outta their way to acknowledge your fellow AzN office mates?

not really.

you're such a dork. the last asian co-worker tried to stab you in the back, if i remember right.

[TTChino]

not really.

you're such a dork. the last asian co-worker tried to stab you in the back, if i remember right.

Eh? Who was that? I have no clue what who you're talking about.

[deez nuts]

Eh? Who was that? I have no clue what who you're talking about.

the dude that accused you of cheating.

[TTChino]

the dude that accused you of cheating.


He was Indian.

[mr. x]

just start up a azn club (like fight club) and then when u see em, give em the "nod"

nothing more needs to be said, they just...understand

[thaite]

Most of them here I know, but that's because we all belong to the same professional group. There's this one IT guy on my floor, he pretty much just ignores me, so meh.

[Faithless]

I try to give props to fellow Asian workers. I talk about similar cultural backgrounds and stuff, as well as, understand the differences.

But I also take them as individuals, too, with their own issues and stuff.

Being that this is a political environment, I'm always wary of office politics and whose kissing whose ass. So, in that regard, I treat my fellow Asian coworkers the same. :rolleyes:

[Emperor_Mike]

Shouldn't the lot of us be pleasant to the people we work with? When I was in zipping in and out of organisations as an IS consultant I'd say hello to everyone even if I'm only there for a day or two. Most of them appreciate it and this one woman even gave me a small basket of marmalade, Swedish mini-toast (from Ikea) and several rolls of chocolate wafer sweets. I'd only been there for a week too! So be nice to everyone and be glad that when you leave the office no one you work with wants to kill you. :)

[tommyhtown]

I work in IT field so in every office I have worked there are Asians everywhere. In all my IT gigs, I acknowledged everybody, Asians or non-Asians. Being nice to everybody made my job easier. I have to say though that I tend to go out for lunch with my Asian co-workers. I guess we have similar taste buds.

[TTChino]

I work in IT field so in every office I have worked there are Asians everywhere. In all my IT gigs, I acknowledged everybody, Asians or non-Asians. Being nice to everybody made my job easier. I have to say though that I tend to go out for lunch with my Asian co-workers. I guess we have similar taste buds.

That's weird, I work in IT also. I work for Sun. There's like no asian folks in my office. It's so strange. I literally have....hmmm 3 chinese friends in the office. All 3 are female too.

[nonamerasian]

I know a lot of Blacks do that.

I do it, kind of.

I would, and sometimes still do, try to say hi to everyone, but it seems that only Blacks, Hispanics, and a good portion of South Asians answer back.

There was a discussion on this on a Black forum. I have had similar experiences to what they've said.

It isn't like members of other groups don't say hi back, but a lot don't or they will do the flash a fake smile for a second and then look bull-faced.

On that forum, they attributed it to culture citing that most members of the forum were taught to say hello to everyone and only began getting selective through experience.

[kasia]

i always do. it seems asian attys - esp. progressive ones - tend to try to help each other out.

[kboy75]

i don't. i get along with whoever i get along with.

[himura-dono]

Does anyone else go outta their way to acknowledge your fellow AzN office mates? I ain't really friendly to anyone I dunno in the office, if they exchange some pleasantries in the bathroom or the elevator I don't ignore em or anything tho.

how would you feel if you saw white people doing it? i'm sure then it'd be seen as something racist, a white boys only club out to give the minority the shaft :rolleyes:

[deez nuts]

how would you feel if you saw white people doing it? i'm sure then it'd be seen as something racist, a white boys only club out to give the minority the shaft :rolleyes:


my brother wouldn't give a shit, if they did.

why? cuz the white boys love to roll with us.

[himura-dono]

hahaha.

[deez nuts]

hahaha.
:new_all_c

[kimpossible]

how would you feel if you saw white people doing it? i'm sure then it'd be seen as something racist, a white boys only club out to give the minority the shaft :rolleyes:

doesn't this already happen? same shit happend in school. cliques and all.

[himura-dono]

what i'm implying is in the way he said it: like it's some kind of solidarity thing. as long as the group isn't white, it's like it's ok. but if white people did it, it's racism. i dunno, i don't like most white people, but i don't like double standards or racism, subtle or overt.

i mean, i'm not trying to say anyone has said this in this thread, but it's kind of an accepted belief regardless. like, no one thinks a magazine like ebony is racist, but what if there was a white equivalent? wouldn't most people say it's racist and demand some non-white faces in there, or to shut it down? maybe i should just put this post in rant. i'm probably moving this thread away from the original intent.

[deez nuts]

what i'm implying is in the way he said it: like it's some kind of solidarity thing. as long as the group isn't white, it's like it's ok. but if white people did it, it's racism. i dunno, i don't like most white people, but i don't like double standards or racism, subtle or overt.

i think you read my brother's post wrong. he was merely asking out of curiousity if it's common practice. not as some type of asian clique thing. if you read what he wrote one or two posts later:

Most of the AzN's in my office are either too old, or they're a bunch of herbs. There's like 2 maybe 3 attractive AzN women in the office but I'm too young for em. Tho I would be willing to be a young boy toy.

i actually can vouch for him on it. i drank with him and his co-workers a few times. one was guyanese, one was white and two were latino.

you're jumping to conclusions.

[himura-dono]

oh no, i'm not implying he meant it that way, but i percieve it could be seen as that. i edited and added right after i posted, so now you see that i wasn't implying he was saying that. just a mini rant i should've placed elsewhere.

[kimpossible]

what i'm implying is in the way he said it: like it's some kind of solidarity thing. as long as the group isn't white, it's like it's ok. but if white people did it, it's racism. i dunno, i don't like most white people, but i don't like double standards or racism, subtle or overt.

i mean, i'm not trying to say anyone has said this in this thread, but it's kind of an accepted belief regardless. like, no one thinks a magazine like ebony is racist, but what if there was a white equivalent? wouldn't most people say it's racist and demand some non-white faces in there, or to shut it down? maybe i should just put this post in rant. i'm probably moving this thread away from the original intent.


I see how you're trying to use the examples to fit a reverse-racism argument but there are a couple of big flaws there. The first is why do black magazines exists? Because white is the standard of beauty that is cover-worthy. No white person will voice this because it names implicit racism [not all racism is direct name calling or beatdowns]. It's obvious to most people that despite not being labeled a magazine for and about white women in representation, culture and concern, most 'mainstream' women's magazines are such and you could find easy proof in the ads. No company is going to advertise unless it has some solid demographics of who the average reader is.

Despite being culturally American, like any other ethnic groups, Asian Americans can be influenced by ancestral culture (Asian) as well as national culture (American). There might be a stronger tendency to network or build alliances with other Asians because they face professional obstacles that white Americans don't necessarily face, such as a glass ceiling.

I think we're hinging on express desire to form relationships based on ethnicity or like-minded goals versus those that exist even though not overtly expressed. I would argue that most networking at an executive level in the US is something like older white males playing golf at a country club that traditionally catered to moneyed people of European descent and Christian faiths. Oh, the policies of such country clubs and corporate practices may have been forced to change the letter of their policies to not be so exclusive, but I don't see the spirit of such changes acknowledged or enforced. Whether or not overtly expressed, there are white only cliques. The only difference I see is a case of The Emporer Wears No Clothes: most whites are not willing to acknowledge it. For those of us who are not white males of Christian faith, it's in our best interest to create solidarity. It's merely a case of implicit versus explicit.

[himura-dono]

yea, the reverse -racism is what i was looking at, but i guess i got into the idealogy but not the facts. after reading what you said i know what you mean about solidarity in general, but in the end, i still think it's like a lot of whites are held hostage by a few's actions. i acknowledge that generally people in direct power are all old white men, and that i believe it would ease up if there were non-white able to get into it, but the likelihood of it happening isn't very positive because the old boys network that's already established wouldn't take to well to anyone trying to move in.

that's what i mean by the hostage sense. but i do readily admit that my examples of reverse racism were fairly shallow. i guess in the end though, many people who use solidarity have used it to continue the problem. maybe i just need to think more about how the negative end of solidarity could be avoided so as to not be a new boys network. that's my main issue with some people who use solidarity; it'll be used in a negative way and create a seperatist union, rather than a truly unifying force of many groups.

as far as white males not being affected by some of the limitations non-whites face, i admit that as a white male, i guess it's harder for me to percieve that which may be obvious to some others. i've worked in several companies and as high as i can see from my place, i see an integration, but maybe i'm not looking high enough to see where it filters into a predominant whiteness. this could be an example of what you were saying about the emperor's new clothes, fooling myself by thinking i'm looking as high as can be, but unconciously avoiding the top to feign ignorance of the reality.

[SunWuKong]

what i'm implying is in the way he said it: like it's some kind of solidarity thing. as long as the group isn't white, it's like it's ok. but if white people did it, it's racism. i dunno, i don't like most white people, but i don't like double standards or racism, subtle or overt.

i mean, i'm not trying to say anyone has said this in this thread, but it's kind of an accepted belief regardless. like, no one thinks a magazine like ebony is racist, but what if there was a white equivalent? wouldn't most people say it's racist and demand some non-white faces in there, or to shut it down? maybe i should just put this post in rant. i'm probably moving this thread away from the original intent.


i personally wouldn't think anything of it if white people congregate with other white people. because... they do.

[TTChino]

Numero Uno - Yah it's true I could give a shit if white folks do it. Dontcha think it would be pretty hard tho? In my office they'd literally have to acknowledge like 7 outta 8 people that walk by....hmmm, we're called minorities for a reason.

#2. Have you ever heard of the corporate "Alpha Male"? They're white... =P.

and with regards to reverse-racism, Yeah I do it. I make fun of herb white people that try and roll up in azn clubs and bars. I make fun of my white friends too. It's now the cool thing to do ;).

[kimpossible]

what's herb white people?

[deez nuts]

Numero Uno - Yah it's true I could give a shit if white folks do it. Dontcha think it would be pretty hard tho? In my office they'd literally have to acknowledge like 7 outta 8 people that walk by....hmmm, we're called minorities for a reason.

#2. Have you ever heard of the corporate "Alpha Male"? They're white... =P.

and with regards to reverse-racism, Yeah I do it. I make fun of herb white people that try and roll up in azn clubs and bars. I make fun of my white friends too. It's now the cool thing to do ;).

i do it too.

not just herb white people, but also herb black people, herb asians and herb latins.

we both equal opportunity haters.

the key word is herb, that's the word. if you're not a herb, it's all good.

I make fun of my white friends too.

like our personal whipping boy; gay white rob.

[deez nuts]

what's herb white people?

herb = hella moist.

[TTChino]

yea, the reverse -racism is what i was looking at, but i guess i got into the idealogy but not the facts. after reading what you said i know what you mean about solidarity in general, but in the end, i still think it's like a lot of whites are held hostage by a few's actions. i acknowledge that generally people in direct power are all old white men, and that i believe it would ease up if there were non-white able to get into it, but the likelihood of it happening isn't very positive because the old boys network that's already established wouldn't take to well to anyone trying to move in.

that's what i mean by the hostage sense. but i do readily admit that my examples of reverse racism were fairly shallow. i guess in the end though, many people who use solidarity have used it to continue the problem. maybe i just need to think more about how the negative end of solidarity could be avoided so as to not be a new boys network. that's my main issue with some people who use solidarity; it'll be used in a negative way and create a seperatist union, rather than a truly unifying force of many groups.

as far as white males not being affected by some of the limitations non-whites face, i admit that as a white male, i guess it's harder for me to percieve that which may be obvious to some others. i've worked in several companies and as high as i can see from my place, i see an integration, but maybe i'm not looking high enough to see where it filters into a predominant whiteness. this could be an example of what you were saying about the emperor's new clothes, fooling myself by thinking i'm looking as high as can be, but unconciously avoiding the top to feign ignorance of the reality.

Come on, you're not even looking close to high enough. George Bush belonged to that "secret society". Our presidents = WASP. I see nothing wrong with some SOCIAL racial solidarity amongst my kind. It becomes a totally different issue when I start giving jobs to my asian kin....just because. I can differentiate between social interaction and business being business.

[applehead]

shouldn't it be "herby"? or herbie. or whatever.

[g-boogie]

herb = hella moist.

ahahhahahahhahhahahahhahaha that sounds gross

[BeTheReds]

All of my co workers are Asian, and I only acknowledege the ones I know.

[himura-dono]

Come on, you're not even looking close to high enough. George Bush belonged to that "secret society". Our presidents = WASP. I see nothing wrong with some SOCIAL racial solidarity amongst my kind. It becomes a totally different issue when I start giving jobs to my asian kin....just because. I can differentiate between social interaction and business being business.

president doesn't = business organization or employee representation.

i didn't say solidarity is wrong, just that if done incorrectly it may seem to promote strength of one group while attacking other groups.

[deez nuts]

ahahhahahahhahhahahahhahaha that sounds gross

juicy

[Chris]

I'm freinds with all my asian coworkers. They are all very cool people and I love hanging out with them.

We are planning to do dimsum together for lunch too! ahhahaha

[TTChino]

president doesn't = business organization or employee representation.

i didn't say solidarity is wrong, just that if done incorrectly it may seem to promote strength of one group while attacking other groups.

Why does it have to be a business organization or employee representation? Presidency is a job no? The Democratic and Republican nominees are put there by their peers initially no? If you're bringing up reverse racism because I pose the question of whether people acknowledge unknown asian co-workers, then I don't think it's a big leap of the imagination to take the next step to a government position no?

In regards to solidarity being done incorrectly, where did I ever say I give any preferential treatment. My post was simply about whether you give a nod, smile, good morning or hello, to fellow asian co-workers that you DON'T know. I don't even ask their name. I just sometimes say hi, or nod, or smile. The same way alot of men nod, smile, or say good morning to women they find attractive.

[himura-dono]

dude, i didn't say YOU said it. i said solidarity in general can be done incorrectly. i'm not making an attack on you or what you said, i semi-thread jacked you, it happens =)

[deez nuts]

i think b got the impression cuz you quoted him.

it's all good b, dono was just having a chez whitey moment.

[himura-dono]

i think b got the impression cuz you quoted him.

it's all good b, dono was just having a chez whitey moment.


rofl, ass. :glare:

yeah, TT, i'm just a turncoat whitey anyway, so when i stick up for white people, it's kind of a token resistance. i really don't like racism or racial bias' but dude, i don't even like most white people. log that for future reference if i do it again while you're here. :laugh:

[deez nuts]

rofl, ass. :glare:

yeah, TT, i'm just a turncoat whitey anyway, so when i stick up for white people, it's kind of a token resistance. i really don't like racism or racial bias' but dude, i don't even like most white people. log that for future reference if i do it again while you're here. :laugh:

:heart:

[kimpossible]

yeah, TT, i'm just a turncoat whitey anyway, so when i stick up for white people, it's kind of a token resistance. i really don't like racism or racial bias' but dude, i don't even like most white people. log that for future reference if i do it again while you're here. :laugh:

huh? you should be more like me and bunboy. we're equal opportunity haters.