Gay Marriages

[Chris]

Wow. Stupid Me. I didn't realize we didn't have a topic on this yet.

So what your spin on gay marriages? Now in some parts of Canada and Europe. Marriages for gay couples are on the rise. How do you guys feel about this?

[Emperor_Mike]

I have a positive outlook on the issue. It is a big step fraught with people who would simply love to see a complete reversal of the idea of gay marriages, but I think society will grow to embrace such a move eventually.

[shy]

i think it's great that there are at least some places in this world that allows same-sexed marriages!

i'm having difficulties, though, with people who are against it. not so much that the are against it, but there reasons for being against it...

i get completely emotional and angry when i hear some of their reasons.

[LigotflabL]

I don't see why gay people can't married the way straight peeps do. Two people in love have every freaken right to just get hitched if they wanna.

[Fireblade]

Aren't they trying to pass some kind of benefit laws for life-partners, so they have acess to some of the benefits and laws of marriages recognized by the state? Just figured...

Anyway, I think it's a good progressive move that same sex marriages are rapidly being accepted. Why intrude on happiness? Sucks when it gets trodded on.

[applehead]

i really don't have any problems with this.
and i don't see why it's still illegal in some areas.
this gets me so mad.
shit.
if it's legal for me to marry a convicted murderer,
i should be able to marry another woman if i wanted.

[Tao]

i really don't have any problems with this.
and i don't see why it's still illegal in some areas.
this gets me so mad.
shit.
if it's legal for me to marry a convicted murderer,
i should be able to marry another woman if i wanted.

LOL, i think bunboy's getting nervous now....

[deez nuts]

LOL, i think bunboy's getting nervous now....

i'm turned on actually.

[Tao]

i'm turned on actually.
she said lesbian, not bisexual

[deez nuts]

she said lesbian, not bisexual

like i said the thought of it turns me on.

[applehead]

she said lesbian, not bisexual


this confuses me.
so bixsexuals can never marry, huh?
'cause then they'll have to choose
one gender....
hmmm???

[AngryABCGirl]

I'm all for gay marriage, it makes me sick why people are so homophobic. I don't get it, it never even occured for me to be homophobic when I found out what homosexuality was. I really don't know why it's so threatening to people.

[SunWuKong]

this confuses me.
so bixsexuals can never marry, huh?
'cause then they'll have to choose
one gender....
hmmm???


i haven't known many bis (that looked weird... i meant bisexuals), but the ones that i do know seem to have a "bend" toward the opposite sex.

to the people who would know better than me, is this a general trend with people who are bi?

[shy]

i haven't known many bis (that looked weird... i meant bisexuals), but the ones that i do know seem to have a "bend" toward the opposite sex.

to the people who would know better than me, is this a general trend with people who are bi?

i don't think so... i mean, i haven't any hard stats or anything.

but i think i've met a good amount of bisexuals, both men and women, who lean towards the same sex.

i guess you could see it as a spectrum. and one could land anywhere on that spectrum.

as for bisexuals and marriage... they just fall in love w/ who they fall inlove with.

:D

[kimpossible]

I really don't get heterosexual people who get their panties in a bunch about marriage being only for a man and a woman. I get the feeling they feel threatened or feel that their experience with marriage will be cheapened because two guys or two girls can marry. Shit, breeders cheapened marriage through astronomical divorce rates, what type of sanctity is there to protect?

I think once upon a time, way before marriage was associated with love and functioned mainly for the purposes of property and tracing lineage (the joining of family and blood, inheritance, etc.) it would have made sense to have two people who could breed together be the requirement for marriage, but since marriage by far in the modern age is associated with love, we don't have those issuess of breeding and lineage as primary concerns for marriage. Now it's mainly about love and starting families. Any couple, straight or gay, can succeed or royally screw it up.

It's high time that same sex marriage be legally recognized so that these families can enjoy the same legal benefits as any other family. Plus, who gives a shit? What's so disturbing about two people of the same gender getting hitched? I'm not trying to be a bleeding heart liberal, it just doesn't register with me that I should be against it.

[etcj]

Gay marriage is one of the feature topic for this week on Fridae:

http://www.fridae.com/magazine/en20031007_1_1.php

[angel nympho]

I'm all for it. Fucking republicans.

[Chris]

Dude I going on Mod Smack Down Mode. I am tired of this shit from you, especially when you give shit to people I care about like HH. Trying to be as personable and even reason with you to no avail. You are here by ban from this forum. Any subquesent post you posts from here on out will be hereby edited by me for my pleasure and finally deleted. If you post again I will hereby ask admin to to castrate or banned you. Got it?

Have a nice day. :heart:

[kitty]

I woulda loved to ask LL this but he's banned from this forum so...

why do people think that gay men are just gonna 'plug their buttholes' every time a straight man bends down? Isn't it kinda unrealistic and more importantly unsubstantiated? I mean, do straight men just unzip and stuff their penises into every woman who bends down to pick up a penny?

[Chris]

Amen!!! :d

[cynical2afault]

What I find amusing is that homphobic straight men are afraid of male sexuality -when it's directed at them. Yet, many of them don't stop and think about how unwelcome and threatening their advances are to women.

- cynic
[newbie w/introduction in the 'intro' threads]


I woulda loved to ask LL this but he's banned from this forum so...

why do people think that gay men are just gonna 'plug their buttholes' every time a straight man bends down? Isn't it kinda unrealistic and more importantly unsubstantiated? I mean, do straight men just unzip and stuff their penises into every woman who bends down to pick up a penny?

[hapakristina]

What I find amusing is that homphobic straight men are afraid of male sexuality -when it's directed at them. Yet, many of them don't stop and think about how unwelcome and threatening their advances are to women.

- cynic
[newbie w/introduction in the 'intro' threads]
amen to that! *high five*

[hapakristina]

really? how do you know? :laugh:

i don't know about anyone else but i certainly would'nt want to be someone's biatch in prison. especially getting my ass "owned" by some 300lb black guy. now that would be a nightmare (no offence - please don't delete this or ban me)
well, i don't think that guys that are raping other men in prison are doing so because of homosexual tendencies. it's usually their dire need for sexual release. as far as the giving and receiving.. guys have anal sex with women so having anal sex with another man wouldn't FEEL any different. now receiving anal sex and enjoying it may be another issue.

[Chris]

really? how do you know? :laugh:

i don't know about anyone else but i certainly would'nt want to be someone's biatch in prison. especially getting my ass "owned" by some 300lb black guy. now that would be a nightmare (no offence - please don't delete this or ban me)

If you post again I will hereby ask admin to to castrate or banned you. Got it?

Have a nice day. :heart:



:deal: with that being said. Im going ask Admin to snip snip you.

Have a great day! :heart: :boldred:

[myself808]

Actually Chris I don't think LL should be banned just because he doesn't agree with you, Myself ,and just about everyone here for that matter. He should be able to post his opinion as long as he keeps it civil, and he genuinely has the convictions of what he posts and is not trolling just to start shit or make ignorant remarks. If that's the case then yes ban 'em. Same goes for the deleted Fireblade post, although without seeing it, I may be wrong there. Besides preaching to the choir is no fun, tearing someone a new one for their ridiculous arguments...

[Chris]

Nope it what he said to the other moderator and disrepecting her that got him banned from here. i don't tolerate that type of behavior like that. And I didn't delete fireblade post. I split the thread in half between gay adoption and gay marriage. All his post are still there.

[myself808]

my bad, haven't been around for a couple weeks and missed the previous thread and split. That's what I get for doing this at work...

[etcj]

Hey, check out the Get Involved Forum (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?p=229145#post229145)for an opportunity to comment on gay marriages on an MTV Special called Choose or Lose. I think it's kind of important to be included in this type of specials, because you rarely ever see Asians or Pacific Islanders appear on these shows to comment on such important social issues.

[Faithless]

From the GAO, itself --

Consequently, as of December 31, 2003, our research identified a total of 1,138 federal statutory provisions classified to the United States Code in which marital status is a factor in determining or receiving benefits, rights, and privileges. (http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf)
...
...
APPENDIX 4
CATEGORIES OF STATUTORY PROVISIONS
CATEGORY 1—SOCIAL SECURITY AND RELATED PROGRAMS, HOUSING,
AND
FOOD STAMPS
This category includes the major federal health and welfare programs, particularly those
considered entitlements, such as Social Security retirement and disability benefits, food
stamps, welfare, and Medicare and Medicaid. Most of these provisions are found in Title 42
of the United States Code, Public Health and Welfare; food stamp legislation is in Title 7,
Agriculture.

CATEGORY 2—VETERANS' BENEFITS
Veterans' benefits, which are codified in Title 38 of the United States Code, include pensions,
indemnity compensation for service-connected deaths, medical care, nursing home care, right
to burial in veterans' cemeteries, educational assistance, and housing. Husbands or wives of
veterans have many rights and privileges by virtue of the marital relationship.

CATEGORY 3—TAXATION
While the distinction between married and unmarried status is pervasive in federal tax law,
terms such as "husband," "wife," or "married" are not defined. However, marital status
figures in federal tax law in provisions as basic as those giving married taxpayers the option
to file joint or separate income tax returns. It is also seen in the related provisions prescribing
different tax consequences, depending on whether a taxpayer is married filing jointly,
married filing separately, unmarried but the head of a household, or unmarried and not the
head of a household.
...

[Faithless]

I know you can't legally say there are gay marriages, but of the term, generically, is there a different dynamic in gay marriages that don't exist in (what? straight?) marriages?

Let's say -- do gays better honor the "vows"?

I advocated the merging of this thread with the ranty one, but maybe there should be a separation -- one (this one) that focuses on gay marriage life.

[Gunz]

I vote Republican, I believe in gun ownership, I do not think that war for oil is outrageous.....BUT.......

Let Gay Marriages be legitimate!! There are some painful choices to make in a relationship, and life and death. It is best to have a legitimate legal relationship be allowed to decide for some of those hard choices instead of the state.

Live Free Or Die.......

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I vote Republican, I believe in gun ownership, I do not think that war for oil is outrageous.....

This might be getting a bit off topic here but...how exactly is invading another country and disregarding the value of countless lives on both sides while lying to the public about the reasons (using what are seemingly justifiable reasons) for the invasion for the sake of economic gain of fat cats (oil) not outrageous? Or is this another argument that involves the doctrine of "That's just how the world works"?

[yoMAMA]

This might be getting a bit off topic here but...how exactly is invading another country and disregarding the value of countless lives on both sides while lying to the public about the reasons (using what are seemingly justifiable reasons) for the invasion for the sake of economic gain of fat cats (oil) not outrageous? Or is this another argument that involves the doctrine of "That's just how the world works"?

survival of the fittest?

i'm just speculating, of course.