Old Country Hate

[RasFarengi]

I am sure someone made a thread about this but I can't find it so I will ask:

Does ethnic hatred from Asia spill over in relations with Asian Americans? I would think it does since Asian AMerican community has such a high number of foreign born people, who probably bring their old world hatreds with them.



Korea Vs Japanese

Chinese Vs Japanese

Chinese Vs Vietnamese

Chinese Vs Malay

Chinese Vs Indonesian

Thai Vs Lao

Thai V Burman

Viet V Cambodian

Viet V Hmoung

Thai V Malay

Pakistani V Indian

Bangali V Pakistani

Bangali V Indian

Indian V Chinese

Bangali V Burman

and within in nations we also have disputes based on region.

North/South divide in China...

Since I have lived in Shanghai it is almost typical that mainland Chinese from other regions will ask me..."Did you really like Shanghai people?" :rolleyes: It seems that Shanghai people are not well liked due to stereotypes of being money grubbing and elitist.

There are some in the Kanto area of Japan who dislike Kansai people (my wife is one of them).

My wife has had many bad encounters with Mainland Chinese people in Japan and here, and she is not too fond of them. She seems to like Koreans though, although many Koreans dislike Japanese due to WWII. (I found that many Korean men in Korea still like Japanese women... :rolleyes: ...oh well we are all hypocrites).

In Africa this situation in similar, even within countries, my father is a Nigerian Hausa, and he dislikes (actually hates) certain tribes in Nigerial, he also doesn't like people from Ghana much or the French speaking countries.

African Americans don't have these issues, due to the cultural geneocide that was committed against us during slavery and forced intermarriage. So 500 years later we are one unified ethnic group.

If Asian Americans are trying to form some Pan-Asian ethnic group, I would think that due to cultural differences, linguistic difference, and often racial difference are enough to deal with...but if you add in the above issues...I wonder how this effects things.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

My parents have both crapped on and complimented Japanese, Koreans, and Viets at one time or another...in the end it makes no difference to me. Strangely enough, my dad also trashes mainland Chinese all the time (and he is a mainlander). I think a lot of times I find myself the most jealous of other Asian groups because they have a much bigger sense of unity and are not caught up in selfish gain or inter-provincial or regional bickering and all that bullshit. Regarding stereotypes and country-hate instilled by parents (or brought over by parents or immigrants), sure, I may have preconceptions due to my upbringing, but when you actually talk to individual people, the reality of who they are and the fact that they possess unique traits and characteristics hits you full in the face and overrides most preconceived bias or notions. Of course, there is a problem if certain people are unwilling to even approach or begin to interact with other groups based upon what they've been told or taught.

[seanp]

My parents (southern viet) always talk trash about the northern viet more than they do to Chinese.... :huh: But they still have lot of negative comments to various ethnicities.... I think it's impossible for the Asian to form one Pan-asian ethnic group

[Eros]

Perhaps it's because I am born in the US, a hapa, and from an area with a rather small asian population but I have noticed a lot less interasian conflicts. Of course, most of the time when I am in a area of high population of asian, it is mixed out of necessity. This is especially true in restuarants and grocery stores (especially grocery stores since country specific grocery stores are much overshadowed by general asian grocery stores). Myself, I have recieved little hate directed from asians for being part chinese. Of course, the most of the asians I have been around have been Catonese chinese (which is my partial origins), Vietnamese, and Korean (especially adopted) and none of these, to my knowledge, have much against Chinese. Also, the North/South China is almost nil since whilke the majority of chinese in my area are cantonese, there aren't the greatest number of chinese in general.

I think the Chinese vs. Japanese issue is slowly dying out. It is still alive in the older generations (both in the US and China) but it seems like it isn't as strong in the younger generations. This is obviously influenced by the fact that the older generations were the ones who experienced the Japanese invasion of China. Of course, it could be that the younger generations just haven't been as vocal about it around me.

I am not saying that these issues don't exist in the US. Reading posts on this discussion forum are enough to prove that. But from my own personal experience, I have witnessed some but not nearly as much as the lack of it.

I don't quite agree with the statements you made about the african american common culture. While what you said is true to some degree, the commonality is getting less as more foreign born are moving to this country. I remember reading a article in the my local paper about this where one woman who was interviewed said a few decades ago all african americans had a similar background whereas now she shares less with african americans in her area because of the influx of somalians (a populations that is quickly growing in my state) and other african immigrants. I have not heard any hatred between these groups but it is making the pan-african community divided. These communities which have lived in the US for only a few generations would most likely be similar to the asian communities in the US.

[RasFarengi]

Eros:

all african americans had a similar background whereas now she shares less with african americans in her area because of the influx of somalians (a populations that is quickly growing in my state) and other african immigrants. I have not heard any hatred between these groups but it is making the pan-african community divided. These communities which have lived in the US for only a few generations would most likely be similar to the asian communities in the US.



Good point, but I don't consider Africans, "African American," my dad doesn't even consider himself "African AMericans" and I have never met a black immigrant who did.

"African Americans" I view as a specific ethnic group of basically multiracial blacks who's ancestors came here due to slavery. I realize that some blacks American families who are here today that call themselves "African Americans" may not havea had anything to do with slavery in the United States, but usually those people have been here so long culturally they are "African American..."

[AngryABCGirl]

My parents have some resent toward the ban sen ren in Taiwan and some prejudice against Mainlanders because they think that they are lower class. My grandma doesn't like the Japanese because her having to flee and all that bad stuff in the War. They also like to crap on Cantonese people a lot, saying they're rude and stuff, but it's usually more playful making fun of their accents than totally hating on them.

[achtungbaby]

Moving to Diaspora...

[BeTheReds]

I hate the Japanese and Japan!

I am wasting their tax money! HAHAHAHA!

[Deadpool]

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I am wasting their tax money! HAHAHAHA! [/b][/quote]
lol

[Ogumo]

Im japanese. I have alot of respect toward china. I have no problem with south koreans but i truly hate northkorea and all of it's people.

[LCY]

My mom (we're Korean) has a problem with Japan. I suppose its leftover resentment from colonization and the war. I sympathize, but I don't have the same feelings as her. However, I have many Japanese and Japanese American friends and even dated a Japanese American guy and she doesn't mind at all. I think it's more of a generalized resentment.

I think the most of the 1st generation hold on to those old prejudices but the 1.5 and 2nd generations mostly don't have them so it's a bit easier for the latter to build pan-Asian communities.