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kitty

07-26-2003, 10:05 PM

Why is it the 'queer eye'? Doesn't this make it seem like all gay people inherently have better fashion sense? The five guys are consultants who happen to be gay, not consultants because they are gay.

YuheiCarreau

07-26-2003, 10:16 PM

I think all those shows are odd. The other day my mom and little sister were watching What Not to Wear, and I thought it was ridiculous that anyone would be publicly ridiculed just for a few fashion tips; can't they just ask their friends?

I also think it's strange that a lot of the straight women I know will put up with incredibly nasty, snippy comments from their gay friends but the second a straight guy makes a disparaging remark he gets the cold shoulder. That's just a spur-of-the-moment observation, however...

Hiroshi2

07-26-2003, 10:50 PM

I think it's an interesting idea; however, personally I'd rather consult female friends on fashion tips, not gay men. After all, the whole point of dressing up fashionably is to get the ladies  :P

Faithless

07-26-2003, 11:58 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hiroshi2 @ Jul 26 2003, 09:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I think it's an interesting idea; however, personally I'd rather consult female friends on fashion tips, not gay men. After all, the whole point of dressing up fashionably is to get the ladies :P [/b][/quote]
Hah! Chicks will just dress you with whatever they see other people wearing fashionably.  I think the gay dudes are adding an extra touch.

The show is a very interesting mix of bringing humanity to gay culture, as well as, acceptance.  Some critics like it.  It's not competitive. It's funny and a kind of blend of Martha Stewart meets GQ magazine.

They seem to transform a lot of dumpy guys, though.

krome

07-28-2003, 05:46 AM

I'm not gay, but I was wondering if gay people found the show extremely stereotypical and offensive?  Not to mention the term "queer?"  Like the gay version of Banzai? 

lethal

07-28-2003, 06:14 AM

I watched the first 3 episodes and thought it was pretty good. I'm not sure how gay people feel about it. Would it be analogous to having 5 Asian Feng Shui consultants go around and remaking your house? Would you guys be offended by that? I'm not sure...just haven't thought about it.

kitty

07-29-2003, 09:07 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lethalweapon @ Jul 28 2003, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I watched the first 3 episodes and thought it was pretty good. I'm not sure how gay people feel about it. Would it be analogous to having 5 Asian Feng Shui consultants go around and remaking your house? Would you guys be offended by that? I'm not sure...just haven't thought about it. [/b][/quote]
I definitely see it being like that...

and as far as the term 'queer'... From what I understand, the term is trying to be 'reclaimed' and made positive, so under certain contexts it's acceptable. But I was told not to run around using it because many people in the gay community still find it offensive, particularly if it comes from someone who isn't gay.

krome

07-29-2003, 09:18 AM

Kinda like "nigga?"

So, what about "A Nigga's World - Bling, 40s and Ho's!"

:(

angel nympho

07-29-2003, 06:03 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kittygirl @ Jul 27 2003, 05:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why is it the 'queer eye'? Doesn't this make it seem like all gay people inherently have better fashion sense? The five guys are consultants who happen to be gay, not consultants because they are gay. [/b][/quote]
I think it's because gay guys (generally) do a lot more than (many) straight guys to clean themselves up and make sure they're at least semi-presentable.

angel nympho

07-29-2003, 06:03 PM

I really like this show.  :)

Deadpool

07-29-2003, 08:42 PM

Not all gay guys have a good dress sense. And not all Straight guys have a bad dress sense.
All the gay guys I know could pass for redneck truckers or farmers.  :blink:

Chris

07-29-2003, 09:10 PM

I agreed.  It just sterotypes and catergorizing.  I just gotten use to being lumped into one catergory. *shrug*

Faithless

07-30-2003, 02:37 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lethalweapon @ Jul 28 2003, 05:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Would it be analogous to having 5 Asian Feng Shui consultants go around and remaking your house? Would you guys be offended by that? I'm not sure...just haven't thought about it. [/b][/quote]
Five? One is too many.  :frown:

But the fab 5 take care of different areas -- culture, dining, etc.

Faithless

07-30-2003, 02:40 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 29 2003, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I really like this show. :) [/b][/quote]
I like it, too. The kids can watch it without being inundated with PG-13 or R rated stuff.

Although my daughter did ask what a gay was. I said it was boys liking boys, or something, and she said, "yuck". I guess I have some work to do in expanding her mind.

There are some coy sexual references but the kids never get -- like on the one episode where the blonde indicates that everyone loves a pearl necklace.  :rolleyes: Or when he indicated that this underwear he bought for a straight guy made "it" look nice.

Faithless

08-04-2003, 12:12 PM

Found something in the show I had to disagree with:

At the end of the show, each of the fab 5 gives some tips. The personal grooming guy made the comment that you don't have to wash your hair everyday -- that "some of your best looks come after the 2nd or 3rd day".

Unfortunately, after the 2nd or 3rd day, for me, my wife would be puking at the "outside smell" in my 2nd-day doo. :frown:

AngryABCGirl

08-16-2003, 03:15 AM

I saw a little bit of it with some friends who haven't been exposed to gay people and it seemed to just re-enforce stereotypes and nail them into the ground.

Deadpool

08-16-2003, 04:01 PM

I could barely watch 1 min of that show.
Sorry but flamers are annoying. Even the gay people I know hate them.

LCY

08-18-2003, 10:21 PM

It's a show for straight people, kinda like "Will & Grace." It has a group of non-threatening, nonsexual, predominantly white gay men acting out stereotypes. I dunno, maybe it'll get better.

kitty

08-19-2003, 08:43 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LCY @ Aug 19 2003, 05:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It's a show for straight people, kinda like "Will & Grace." It has a group of non-threatening, nonsexual, predominantly white gay men acting out stereotypes. I dunno, maybe it'll get better. [/b][/quote]
Are they really being nonsexual? From what I saw, the Fashion guy is always groping the straight guy...

TyTea36

08-19-2003, 09:49 AM

I'm really sick of these stereotypes floating around. In high school, if you're a guy, and you want to design clothing when you grow up, you're already considered gay. I wish they could see that not all fashion designers are gay. This show is just helping that stereotype grow. I don't think I've seen a single show on TV that had a straight male fashion designer. What if someone wants to design clothing? <_<

No... I am not gay, but I have a fashion sense.

Chester

08-19-2003, 11:33 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChottoMatte @ Aug 4 2003, 12:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> At the end of the show, each of the fab 5 gives some tips. The personal grooming guy made the comment that you don't have to wash your hair everyday -- that "some of your best looks come after the 2nd or 3rd day".

Unfortunately, after the 2nd or 3rd day, for me, my wife would be puking at the "outside smell" in my 2nd-day doo. :frown: [/b][/quote]
What sort of places do you stick your head into?

Most people would say that you shouldn't shampoo every day...it'd be kind of harsh on your hair. Condition every day...unless you enjoy swabbing sewers with your scalp, I doubt if your wife would have anything to complain about...and might really enjoy that new, soft mop of yours.

As for QEFTSG , I don't see the big deal. The guys do a good job, but they purposely pick out a bunch of clueless twits to make over. I'd like to see one of these shows tackle a subject who doesn't need a major overhaul in order to avoid public ridicule -- see how fine of an eye these guys really have. Anyone can preach a few basic platitudes to a moron.

And that blond ringleader of theirs...he's not a fraction of how witty he thinks he is.

TyTea36

08-19-2003, 11:56 AM

well, i personally have not seen the show yet :lol:

applehead

08-19-2003, 08:43 PM

golden_buns

08-19-2003, 08:52 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TyTea36 @ Aug 19 2003, 08:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> No... I am not gay, but I have a fashion sense. [/b][/quote]
Same here, I just don't give a damn of what people think

applehead

08-19-2003, 09:14 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (golden_buns @ Aug 19 2003, 07:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Same here, I just don't give a damn of what people think [/b][/quote]
you know golden buns.
today, the fashion guy had a new tip
you might like.

to make your jeans look worn in
use a cheese grater.
:luv:
you can add that to your long list of
"DIY: making your jeans look worn in"

golden_buns

08-19-2003, 09:23 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (applehead @ Aug 19 2003, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> to make your jeans look worn in
use a cheese grater.
:luv:
you can add that to your long list of
"DIY: making your jeans look worn in" [/b][/quote]
cheese grater??
That'd rip the jean really fast.

I haven't been buying jeans lately though, ever since I got into consulting I'm required to wear suits in the middle of the summer, and the little money they pay me goes for that or soju with fellow coworkers after work

applehead

08-19-2003, 09:31 PM

they should have you on the show...

golden_buns

08-19-2003, 09:46 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (applehead @ Aug 19 2003, 08:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> they should have you on the show... [/b][/quote]
Then it wouldn't be queer.

applehead

08-19-2003, 09:51 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (golden_buns @ Aug 19 2003, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Then it wouldn't be queer. [/b][/quote]
umm.. whatever you say.
hehehehehehe

ChinaLama

08-19-2003, 10:16 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (golden_buns @ Aug 20 2003, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Then it wouldn't be queer. [/b][/quote]
yeah GB is a hardcore metrophile aka pussy. j/k dude. don't get your 6 foot frame over my scrawny 5'7 1/2 tub of lard. you may roll me down a hill and i'll be totally helpless!

LCY

08-20-2003, 03:17 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kittygirl @ Aug 19 2003, 07:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Are they really being nonsexual? From what I saw, the Fashion guy is always groping the straight guy... [/b][/quote]
I only watched a few episodes, so I haven't seen the groping. What I meant by nonsexual is that...I guess the guys seem to be portrayed more like caricatures of gay people than actual human beings. That's just the feeling I get.

rice cracker

08-20-2003, 07:14 AM

I :luv: Kyan. I'd take a drag off that fag any day. *melts into a puddle*

SunWuKong

08-20-2003, 08:12 AM

i want a show called Straight Eye for the Queer Guy, where straight guys would take a gay guy and have him not shave for half a week, get him drunk every night, and throw out all his clothes and have him shop for a new wardrobe at Walmart.

shy

08-20-2003, 09:03 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (krome @ Jul 28 2003, 04:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Not to mention the term "queer?" [/b][/quote]
well... when gay's started to be more outspoken about their rights and did their own campaign which was agaist gay-bashing, they did call themselves 'queer'. they took back that word and empowered it.

the word seems to be more accepted now due to the gay movement.

kitty

08-20-2003, 01:05 PM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (applehead @ Aug 20 2003, 03:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i don't know what your idea of groping is
but i've never seen him do that.
that's just bad manners [/b][/quote]
Maybe groping is kind of a strong term. He is a very touchy-feely person, always throwing himself onto the straight guy and touching his hair, shoulder, etc... I would be weirded out if a guy I had only met a few hours ago started touching my hair. Plus he's really flirty -- in a way that seems unprofessional.

The other guys seem to be at least staying serious about their work to some degree.

YuheiCarreau

08-20-2003, 02:37 PM

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AngryABCGirl

08-20-2003, 04:04 PM

^ LoL that's good.

coagulated fat

08-22-2003, 02:43 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (rice cracker @ Aug 20 2003, 07:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I :luv: Kyan. I'd take a drag off that fag any day. *melts into a puddle* [/b][/quote]
Kyan? Is that the one on the left^? He's adorable. :luv:

I think that this show does reinforce stereotypes, but it also seems to challenge some of the homophobia of straight men, so I'm not going to rage against it. When I first heard about it, I expected it to be a lot worse in terms of a negative portrayal of gay men.

applehead

08-27-2003, 09:34 AM

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kittygirl @ Aug 19 2003, 07:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Are they really being nonsexual? From what I saw, the Fashion guy is always groping the straight guy... [/b]
I only watched a few episodes, so I haven't seen the groping. What I meant by nonsexual is that...I guess the guys seem to be portrayed more like caricatures of gay people than actual human beings. That's just the feeling I get.[/QUOTE]

i think they're just acting like themselves.
it's just that we have all these stereotypes
of gay men and they seem to sometimes
fit that stereotype.
and therefore, seem like caricatures.

Faithless

08-27-2003, 02:48 PM

I betcha he gets that all the time. Seriously.
I :luv: Kyan. I'd take a drag off that fag any day. *melts into a puddle*

LCY

08-28-2003, 02:20 AM

Faithless

09-02-2003, 12:57 PM

I found an article/review of this show in the Washington Post which was fairly thought-provoking. If you want to read it here is the address: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A56565-2003Jul14&notFound=true.

Interesting article.

I really look upon the show with with a different perspective. I don't allow it to influence a stereotype of gays. I look at it as a positive roll model thing. My kid loves the show.

I don't agree with some of the ideas about stuff. Like grooming stuff. I'll shave with the grain, but also against it to finish up.

The tanning stuff. I definitely aint gonna put some tanning spray on my bod. I think it's silly.

etcj

09-02-2003, 04:01 PM

Eeek...I'm starting to get bored of these guys - they're everywhere! I don't really have a problem with five gay guys (of course, with the interchangeable/replacable person of color) strolling around glamming up straight guys, but in the end, you got to admit that all of it is pretty superficial. Perhaps it's a bit more of an issue for me that the producers choose to portray the spectrum/diversity of gay men being purely white Chelsea drama queens. Apparently there are no gay Asians to throw in the mix to produce an ultro-PC boy-band appeal. Oh well, it's probably for the better...

Faithless

09-03-2003, 02:35 PM

Put them all together and it might be obvious that they're gay. But some of the guys, individually, would you guess that?

deez nuts

09-03-2003, 03:08 PM

it's a stupid show.

it only further reinforces my belief that most gay men are the shallowest.

Chris

09-03-2003, 04:35 PM

it's a stupid show.

it only further reinforces my belief that most gay men are the shallowest.

Word. I stop watching them for a while. It reenforces so many of the sterotypes. ugh.

Faithless

09-03-2003, 04:52 PM

it's a stupid show.

it only further reinforces my belief that most gay men are the shallowest.

How so? These guys are actually doing something for people, especially Thom, who helps completely redecorate a house. How many shallow guys would do that for someone?

applehead

09-04-2003, 07:22 AM

How so? These guys are actually doing something for people, especially Thom, who helps completely redecorate a house. How many shallow guys would do that for someone?

i hate to break it to you
but they get paid.
that's why they're doing it.
believe me it's not out
of the goodness of their heart.

deez nuts

09-04-2003, 09:18 AM

How so? These guys are actually doing something for people, especially Thom, who helps completely redecorate a house. How many shallow guys would do that for someone?

i'll redecorate some guys house and give him a makeover for tv time and money.

when i said shallow, i didn't mean it in the altruistic sense i.e. giving makeovers, redecorating some guy's house, showing a guy how to cook etc etc, it's more like the general aura and demeanor they conveyed.

shy

09-04-2003, 10:07 AM

it seems like a lot of people are against this show... especially many people who are gay themselves.

i wonder... did they do any marketing research on this show on the gay community first? cause you just have to wonder what they were thinking if they didn't...

Faithless

09-04-2003, 01:51 PM

i hate to break it to you
but they get paid.
that's why they're doing it.
believe me it's not out
of the goodness of their heart.

I realize that they get paid.

I think they are still doing out of kindness, though.

lethal

09-11-2003, 04:17 PM

Tao

09-11-2003, 04:20 PM

AngryABCGirl

09-14-2003, 10:41 AM

Faithless

09-14-2003, 11:31 PM

I applied for the show. They called for a phone interview. They'll get back to me next week if they want to schedule an in-home interview. If I make it on, the show would tape and air in December/Janurary.

What's your plot? Or whatever. On previous episodes, they've had guys do it to impress their ladies or get ready for a big marriage proposal.

applehead

09-15-2003, 06:49 AM

lethal

09-15-2003, 08:53 AM

They haven't called back yet. I'll know by the end of the week.

The storyline will be my transformation from slob student to sharp looking professional lawyer type.

Faithless

09-15-2003, 09:09 AM

They haven't called back yet. I'll know by the end of the week.

The storyline will be my transformation from slob student to sharp looking professional lawyer type.

Don't shave against the grain. They'll give you hell.

>:^|

09-15-2003, 11:04 AM

Straight people seem to love it and eat it up.

Yeah, that would be my thought exactly. It's like a re-packaging of "gayness," playing off accepted stereotypes, in a way that is palatable to the general audience. You see this done with Asian characters--the cute and loveable, non-threatening idiot.

Faithless

09-15-2003, 03:47 PM

Yeah, that would be my thought exactly. It's like a re-packaging of "gayness," playing off accepted stereotypes, in a way that is palatable to the general audience. You see this done with Asian characters--the cute and loveable, non-threatening idiot.

I never thought about it, but I guess they are pretty nice.

Nice until they sit down on the couch infront of the big screen for the final act.

There, they can be pretty harsh for unthankful girlfriends (for the guys who go through these transformations); for guys who don't do all those key things they suggest; for the girlfriends that seem bitchy.

cmar

09-16-2003, 09:54 PM

They haven't called back yet. I'll know by the end of the week.

The storyline will be my transformation from slob student to sharp looking professional lawyer type.

Lethal,

There are enough gay guys here on YW. If they don't pick you we will come over.... :cool:

Chris

09-16-2003, 11:23 PM

Lethal,

There are enough gay guys here on YW. If they don't pick you we will come over.... :cool:

hahahah I am NOT doing fashion. Maybe culture. But nothing else.

cmar

09-18-2003, 11:43 AM

I wouldn't helpful with fashion, either. I didn't get that gay gene. Or cooking. I could do decorating, tho. That would be my best area.

lethal

09-24-2003, 11:28 PM

They never called. I think I got rejected.

kimpossible

09-25-2003, 04:01 PM

They never called. I think I got rejected.

Maybe you don't need help. Maybe you're too damn hot to begin with.

nola

10-01-2003, 01:44 PM

kyan may be bi bc he used to go by the name eddie in personals to pick up women. if he's bi that's very good for me! i love jai too. in an interview some straight guy asked why there's no straight eye for the queer guy teaching gays to love sports, act macho and drink beer, and carson said something like "it's called high school. we've done that". this black guy i knew who was the culture guy in the original unaired pilot said it's impossible to know carson because he's as witty in real life as he is on this show and is a e! true hollywood story in the making. poor carson. thom is god. i want him to make better my apt!

applehead

10-01-2003, 01:47 PM

yeah. is it true that the black dude
is suing the show?

btw. i love the way you write.
it's cute.
"i want him to make better my apt"

kboy75

10-01-2003, 01:50 PM

yeah. is it true that the black dude
is suing the show?

btw. i love the way you write.
it's cute.
"i want him to make better my apt"

how come he is (supposedly) suing?

applehead

10-01-2003, 01:52 PM

how come he is (supposedly) suing?

i have no idea...

nola

10-01-2003, 01:54 PM

hey apple,

there was a black guy before blair boone named james hannaham who wrote for the village voice. he was very cool and with it and seemed to think i was an airhead. fab five only make $3000 an ep and boone quit his job to be on the show so boone is suing for at least one year's queer eye pay.

nola

ps carson said qe wasn't a makeover show but a "make better" show. these guys are so cute.

kboy75

10-01-2003, 01:57 PM

honestly, i watch this show and the only one that seems to be stereotypically flaming is the fashion dude.

gay or not, i don't think you want "jo-shmoe boring" on TV, right?

nola

10-01-2003, 02:03 PM

carson's flamingness is balanced by his kindess and mother hen role. overall it puts gay men in a positive light. awww. i've heard people complain about the reinforced stereotypes but they're usually straight men who don't really watch the show.

angel nympho

10-01-2003, 05:45 PM

i hope kyan is bi. i would like to marry him someday. and jai could be my little house pet.

nola

10-01-2003, 07:03 PM

lol. jai was funny in the last episode.

lethal

10-01-2003, 07:42 PM

Last week's episode with the really cheap guy was hilarious. He was so helpless and clueless.

applehead

10-01-2003, 07:48 PM

Last week's episode with the really cheap guy was hilarious. He was so helpless and clueless.

my sister swears he's one of
the waiters at Rocco's.
from that reality show about
a restaurant.

maybe he worked there before.
he looked handsome after they worked their magic.

g-boogie

10-02-2003, 12:11 PM

he was! they showed more of him on this weeks episode of the restaurant. i was wrong, hes not a waiter. hes a "runner".

lethal

10-02-2003, 01:02 PM

he was! they showed more of him on this weeks episode of the restaurant. i was wrong, hes not a waiter. hes a "runner".

Seriously? They said he was a developer or something.

g-boogie

10-02-2003, 01:32 PM

Seriously? They said he was a developer or something.

yup, it was him. watch the repeats on bravo. its was episode number 103.
maybe he was doing it for some extra cash.

kboy75

10-03-2003, 10:51 AM

I just saw Carson Kressly (the fashion dude) from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy during lunch at Kiiroi Hana in midtown!

I was having my lunch and he walks in toting his LV man bag, sits down and orders a sashimi lunch.

I would have gone to say hi, but I chickened out... :P

nola

10-03-2003, 11:59 AM

did he seem nice? was he alone? what was he like?

kboy75

10-03-2003, 12:09 PM

did he seem nice? was he alone? what was he like?

he was with some other guy (no idea who he was) and seemed to be having a great time talking to him and enjoying his food. very animated.

lethal

11-03-2003, 06:48 PM

They called my back for an in-home interview this week. Any advice?

kimpossible

11-03-2003, 07:36 PM

Yeah, wear those orange boxer shorts when they make you get naked. I want to record it and put it on the YW banner.

kitty

11-03-2003, 08:01 PM

They called my back for an in-home interview this week. Any advice?

tell them they haven't yet had a person of colour on the show and offer them their opportunity to make you their token diversity man...

lethal

11-03-2003, 09:16 PM

tell them they haven't yet had a person of colour on the show and offer them their opportunity to make you their token diversity man...

There's been a black dude.

Chris

11-03-2003, 11:25 PM

hehehe be yoruself andy. YOu will do fine. You read enough about here and know how the show works.

Good Luck LW. I be rooting for you!

kitty

11-04-2003, 05:12 AM

There's been a black dude.

has there? but has there been an asian dude?

ism

11-11-2003, 04:44 AM

Here comes Straight Eye for the Queer Guy (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=797&e=4&u=/eo/20031110/en_tv_eo/12885).

Straight guys will get a chance to convince the nation they're not style victims as Queer Eye for the Straight Guy producers plan a one-shot spinoff episode titled Straight Eye for the Queer Guy. During the one-hour special, five straight men will tutor one gay guy on testosterone-driven "culture" (and we use that term loosely).

As the story is coming from E! Online, I think the scenario the writer presented ("Segments could include power tools 101, NFL basics, decorating your garage, two-minute hair and sports-event etiquette.") isn't what we should be expecting.

Chris

11-11-2003, 02:06 PM

hahahhah that would be very interesting. I am curious what the result will be like.

kboy75

11-12-2003, 11:07 AM

I think Asian gay gays are in *high* demand by gay White and Black males because of their extra femininity. After all, are'nt straight Asian men perceived as effeminate right now?

I do think there is an Asian fetish, but not cause of Asian guys' "femininity". If gay guys are sexually attracted to feminine qualities, they would be straight or bi, not gay.

But yes, there are many gay guys that have a thing for Asians... some of my gay friends included. They call themselves "rice queens".

applehead

11-12-2003, 12:23 PM

what the hell are you talking about?

kboy75

11-12-2003, 12:34 PM

Yes, but I always wondered why gay non-AM's liked gay AM's. I always thought that it was because they were deemed submissive in bed and were, like their female counterparts, "tighter". This is the only reason I can thing off for going for AM's.

However, if the gay non-AM's wanted something extra large or bigger than average I always wondered AM's would be their "rice queens". Why not go for some White or, heaven forbid, some mammoth Black guy who has the capacity to tear their anal holes a-p-a-r-t.

dude... don't confuse yourself (or me).. hahaha....

it's not that complicated. they like asians cause they just DO. for whatever reason... be it the exotic look... the skin color... some white guys think asians are cleaner or something (it's true, my gay friend told me this)... it's a fetish. there is no rational explanation.

BTW, not all gay guys practice anal sex. majority is oral sex. i don't think anyone, gay or straight, wants their bung hole torn "a-p-a-r-t"...

applehead

11-12-2003, 01:09 PM

Why can't you understand what I am talking about? Looking back at my post, I've realised that it is a little confusing but can you not get the gist of it?

i don't get your second paragraph.

applehead

11-12-2003, 01:23 PM

no. i get it.
i didn't like the tone of it.
ever hear of being passive aggressive?
because you seem to be really good at it.

Napoleon Chynamite

11-12-2003, 01:24 PM

Morientes aka el losero muchacho, you're an impotent asiaph -- wait, why do I bother again. haha

Chris

11-12-2003, 02:51 PM

Why can't you understand what I am talking about? Looking back at my post, I've realised that it is a little confusing but can you not get the gist of it?

whoa whoa where did you get that stigma from. Everyone has their preferences. I have mines. It not neccessary every asian and every white and black guy.

kboy75

11-12-2003, 03:25 PM

Really? Some White guys think Asians are cleaner? That's a new one to me, but I guess you learn something new everyday, right?

Re - anal sex comment: I thought basically everyone, including hetero and homo, practised some form of penetration using their sexual organs. So, it's news to me when I hear some homosexuals don't practice anal sex.

well, not that we go into detail, but it's what my gay friends tell me. plus... oral cavity is a place for "penetration" no? *shrug*

lethal

11-12-2003, 08:10 PM

We're only *slightly* off-topic, eh?

applehead

11-13-2003, 02:24 PM

yeah yeah yeah
blah blah blah

Napoleon Chynamite

11-13-2003, 04:23 PM

Whatever El Dumbo....

hahahahahahahaha!!!
damn...don't hold back, seriously, hehe

lethal

12-04-2003, 08:56 PM

kimpossible

12-04-2003, 09:15 PM

awww...

applehead

12-04-2003, 09:24 PM

:sad:
sucks!!!

unicycle

12-13-2003, 09:00 PM

Too bad about that e-rejection, lethal! How did the home interview go? Details!

spice

12-13-2003, 10:29 PM

i watch that show...but i don't like to admit it. honestly, i think gays are better at fashion, decorating and culture stuff. i wish those guys could come over and remake my apartment, teach me how to be cool and buy me some new clothes.... it's embarrassing but i'm not good at that stuff. my place is a dump and i don't know what to do... my girlfriend dumped me last month... she said i was a slob and she couldn't take it any more.... ;(

damn... how do you get on that show??? seriously... if the Fab 5 can do something for me, i'd do it in a second....

unicycle

12-14-2003, 05:23 AM

damn... how do you get on that show??? seriously... if the Fab 5 can do something for me, i'd do it in a second....
The first step is you check out Bravo's website and go to the Queer Eye section. Follow links till you get to the part about being on the show (I have the link around here somewhere.... Damn, lost it). Eventually you'll see a questionnaire. You have to copy the q'aire and then paste it into an e-mail which you send back to them (<info@thequeereye.com>, I think). Don't forget to fill out the questionnaire. They get about 600-700 of these a week and select a bunch of those for interviews at a studio. If you make it to the next round, they'll call to schedule a home interview/tour. Then if you're lucky, you don't get a letter like poor lethalweapon. Instead, they call you and set up a time for your episode. The main thing they are looking for, apart from good candidates (and you sound good), good events (not another housewarming party), so think about what special event is coming up in your life (think about some of the better ones in the show and you'll get the idea).

Good luck!

etcj

12-14-2003, 10:59 AM

The show has been picked by NBC, so that pretty much ushers in the end for the show. Not that it makes a difference, the show really hasn't been very controversial in its designs. Everything seems to be post-modern chic, and of course, metrosexually-influenced.

VH1 did a fashion special where they totally bashed metrosexuals and metrosexual celebrities (i.e. all boy bands). Ha, take that Fab 5! Of course, the best spoof was the one on South Park, hehe..

unicycle

12-14-2003, 04:32 PM

The show has been picked by NBC, so that pretty much ushers in the end for the show. ... Of course, the best spoof was the one on South Park, hehe..

I love South Park. I'll have to catch that episode later.

NBC has already made it clear that they plan to take out some of the racier stuff, and I'm sure they'll want to air the show earlier, so there go the found porn scenes and the racy bathroom jokes. Those types of elements make the show esp. charming, but it will still be pretty good without them (I hope).

Faithless

03-14-2004, 05:00 PM

Hello Straight Guys,

Thank you so much for applying to "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," and for
letting us visit your home. At this time, the producers have decided that
your particular story will not work for the show.

We appreciate your time, and wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

Sincerely,

:sad:

Really some details would be nice.

Did you try that unibrow look? That usually hooks 'em. You probably had to throw stuff everywhere. Have your nice mom come around and butter them up. Grow a long que. Stuff where they can say, "man, this guy does need help!"

moJo

03-23-2004, 03:28 PM

nifer

03-24-2004, 11:50 AM

After clicking on the angryasianman link from the Details thread, i saw a link for this show. tonight's episode feature a makeover on an asian american guy, who they've called a "college jock straight guy". coolness. i hope i don't forget to watch it.

more info on the guy and the episode (http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/Episodes/123/)

welp, i saw this episode last nite (i watch it every week... guh did i just admit to that? :redface: )

anyway, the guy seemed to not know what the hell was going on at 1st. his home was invaded by five strangers who were tearing his place apart. the dude seriously looked like he was going to hurt someone haha. he calmed down after a while and seemed to take the fab 5's advice to heart. i thought it was sweet he was trying to do this all to make his girlfriend happy. she however, seemed not to not even care that he made the effort :rolleyes:

lethal

03-24-2004, 11:58 AM

I suspect the guy last night was my competition and they chose him over me...oh well...

kboy75

03-24-2004, 03:21 PM

welp, i saw this episode last nite (i watch it every week... guh did i just admit to that? :redface: )

anyway, the guy seemed to not know what the hell was going on at 1st. his home was invaded by five strangers who were tearing his place apart. the dude seriously looked like he was going to hurt someone haha. he calmed down after a while and seemed to take the fab 5's advice to heart. i thought it was sweet he was trying to do this all to make his girlfriend happy. she however, seemed not to not even care that he made the effort :rolleyes:
RECAP: http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/Episodes/123/recap.shtml

Episode 123
TRAINING DAY:
DOGGY STYLE

James' journey with the Fab Five got off to a bumpy start, as he wasn't completely prepared for the five-headed gay tornado that ripped through his apartment and deposited his sofa on the sidewalk. Look people: if you want the gourmet cuisine, the new wardrobe and the lovingly Thom-crafted décor, you have to be prepared to see your old, ugly things trashed and mocked. It's called tough love, and it's a necessary part of any proper style intervention. Fortunately, James quickly warmed to the whole process and after a painful start his attempted transformation was underway.

Culture
If you're going to bring home a lot of nice things, it's a good idea to make sure your dog is sufficiently trained not to ruin them. James could use a little help with dog Rocco, so Jai and his teacup terrier, Nemo, join master and pup for an obedience class. (See our Hints & Tips section if you need a refresher course.)

Before his special night with Taebee, Jai shares his philosphy of touch — how to show you're partner that you're present and attentive to them without making it seem like you're merely trying to grope them. The lower back is good, below the belt is trouble.

Grooming
Kyan and James pay a visit to Rich, a massage instructor. There, they discuss a variety of techniques for Thai massage, described as having a yoga class "done to you." They practice arm stretches, a shampoo-style head massage and a full-body roll.

At the apartment, Kyan trades grooming lessons for putting lessons. James learns about cleanser, moisturizers and teeth whitening, while Kyan finds out to how to stay relaxed while gripping the shaft. (Feel free, dear viewer, to insert your own joke here.)

Food & Wine
Targeting Taebee's sweet tooth, Ted brings James to Maury Rubin, one of New York's leading pastry chefs, to learn the art of the tart. Together, they practice decorating lemon-custard tarts with chocolate stripes and dots.

Later in the kitchen, Ted lays out the plan: James will arrange to meet Taebee at their usual diner but then surprise her with romantic dinner in his redecorated apartment. The meal will be catered, but he is on the hook for dessert in the form of a custard tart (shells thankfully provided by Maury) and grapefruit sorbet.

Fashion
James aspired to an athletic, collegiate look but lacked a little of the sophistication and trend-awareness needed to elevate that look into a polished style. Carson fills in the gaps with a mix of casual and dressy looks, like jeans with a tuxedo-style jacket, or pinstriped slacks with a light blue hooded sweatshirt.

There's no point in having nice clothes if you don't know how to take care of them. To remedy this, Carson finds himself cast in the role of Home Economics teacher, instructing James in the basics of ironing. After, James models his new, modern, downtown-preppy look for the guys. "I think you're a hottie right now," declares Jai, "and I haven't thought that all week." Rocco gets to show the world what a bad dog he is with a new pirate-inspired skull & crossbones sweater.

Interior Design
Thom's vision for James' apartment begins with the furnishing. They set out to find items that meld traditional Asian elements with clean, smart, modern design. Also on the agenda: finding a chair and sofa adequate for James 6'2" frame.

When he returns to his now-remade pad, James bypasses the new sofa, the stylish lamps and the grey-green walls and makes a beeline for his new widescreen plasma TV, mounted above the fireplace. As the rest of the transformation gradually sinks in, he finds himself overwhelmed, speechless. Among the many noteworthy details are a light fixture/sculpture above the new dining room table, and shuttered screens blocking out some of the less attractive views.

The Event
James begins by setting up the fake date with Taebee. He goes to put Rocco in his cage, but neglects to shut the door. Soon, Rocco is left to his own devices while James prepares custard in the kitchen.

A complete Moroccan dinner arrives. James wisely transfers it out of the take-out tins and onto plates. The chocolate turns out to be more of a challenge; the first batch is ruined when left too long in the microwave, while the second batch is dispensed too thickly from an improperly-cut paper cone. Meanwhile, the grapefruit sorbet appears to be more like grapefruit soup.

Unfortunately, the problems aren't only confined to the kitchen as unattended Rocco pees in the living room and, pressed for time, James elects to abandon the ironing in favor of something already pressed. Before dressing, he elects to power-cleanse and speed-shave his way through the rest of his preparations.

He rushes to the diner and surprises Taebee. (Smile — you're on Queer Eye Camera!) They return to his place and she's impressed with Thom's work. She's less impressed by the dinner, quickly spotting a dish full of carrots — and she's allergic. Still, throughout he's unfailingly sweet, trying his best to deliver a romantic evening. Taebee, however, is not quick with the compliments, making sure James knows where he's come up short. At least she seems to like the sorbet.

The pattern of good intentions and poor execution continues upstairs as James demonstrates some of his newly-learned Thai massage skills on a not-quite-loving-it Taebee. A less optimistic man might have stopped after the first three or four techniques failed to please. James soldiers on, bravely trying the "body roll." Predictably: disaster. Elsewhere, an unattended Rocco makes a meal of Taebee's sneaker.

The Results
As Carson sagely comments, "it was all wrong, but it takes two to tango and she was not a willing partner." James put an enormous effort and a lot of heart into making a special night for his gal. Sure, most of it didn't work out according to plan (and it could have been worse — at least he didn't use his sweat rag to prepare the food!), but would it have killed her to be a better sport about it?

The good news is that James seems genuinely crazy about Taebee and, for all her complaining, she seems to like him too. They're both still very young, and simply knowing he needs to work on a few things puts James way ahead of the average twenty-four year-old. But please — work on the obedience stuff, ok? We do not want to pay a surprise visit some day and see Thom's gorgeous room covered in wee-wee pads.

cmar

03-24-2004, 03:33 PM

I suspect the guy last night was my competition and they chose him over me...oh well...

You were robbed. That guy was cool and all, but the ending was bad cause his girlfriend was such a ungrateful bitch...geez, she could have at least pretended to appreciate him.

applehead

04-07-2004, 09:02 PM

You were robbed. That guy was cool and all, but the ending was bad cause his girlfriend was such a ungrateful bitch...geez, she could have at least pretended to appreciate him.

yeah seriously.
korean girls are such bitches.
:biggrin:
no but really. aw. i felt so bad for him.

deez nuts

04-08-2004, 08:39 AM

yeah seriously.
korean girls are such bitches.
:biggrin:
no but really. aw. i felt so bad for him.

his girlfriend was hot to shit tho