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AngryABCGirl
06-09-2003, 12:25 AM
"The truth, that we unwittinginly mold other people's past to our own ends, is easy to grasp on an individual level-especially when the individual is a son searching sentimentally for his father. On a collective level, though, it becomes rather less obvious. Nation, race, diaspora- all these communities of collective memory, and the greater the community, the more occluded are its motives for remembering. For people who think of themselves as "a people," the hard facts of history tend to melt into folklore, which dssolves into aesthetic, which evaporates like mist into race-conconsciousness. What matters after awhile, is not the memory of a shared experience so much as the shared experience of memory."

Edited it to take out the author, thought it would be more compelling if we didn't know who this quote is from and how it can apply to other races and nationalities besides Asian.

AliBabaIncorporated
06-09-2003, 12:53 AM
For people who think of themselves as "a people," the hard facts of history tend to melt into folklore, which dssolves into aesthetic, which evaporates like mist into race-conconsciousness. What matters after awhile, is not the memory of a shared experience so much as the shared experience of memory."
Except as has been seen in the real world, AAs' race consciousness isn't based on the collective acceptance of a "remembered" shared origin myth, but on plain old appearance, though they try to justify it by claiming the appearance ties them in to a long history of discrimination, regardless of when they came to the US.

Though the refusal to join in collectively experiencing that memory can be used as grounds for rejection from the community (witness how Asian commentators who take a heterodox view of history or current events are quickly derided as "whitewashed" and "sellouts"), mere acceptance of the foundational myths of the AA community isn't a sufficient condition to be accepted.

I guess we can see this process illustrated by the quote at work with Latinos, though, to a certain extent ...