quitting..

[Rogmok]

is it unethical to continue to work for someone/some company and letting them spend money and time training if you know for sure that you are planning to quit soon??

do companies expect people to do this?? what is acceptable?

i'm asking, cause i'm gonna quit to go back to school, but i don' tknow how much time/notice to give them. and going to meetings and being given long term projects that i know i won't finish,.. i kinda feel like i'm lying.

[sOKaLiBoY]

i see ppl all the time get training and just quit a company. hell i've done it before. if you wanna be nice then give the company a 1-2 month timeframe on when you are gonna quit. i would only give 2 weeks though.

[kboy75]

2 weeks is standard.

you have to do what is best for you.

training is a part of what they have to invest into an employee. it may not feel right, but you are entitled.

that said, it's your prerogative.... just make sure you don;t leave on a sour note and you can use them as a reference. you NEVER know who you might run into or have to work with in the furture....

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Rogmok@Jun 4 2003, 10:21 AM
is it unethical to continue to work for someone/some company and letting them spend money and time training if you know for sure that you are planning to quit soon??

do companies expect people to do this?? what is acceptable?

i'm asking, cause i'm gonna quit to go back to school, but i don' tknow how much time/notice to give them. and going to meetings and being given long term projects that i know i won't finish,.. i kinda feel like i'm lying.
ethics? hahahah!
just do what is written on your contract. this is a job, it's all about making money. do you think they'll think twice about laying you off if they don't have enough money to keep things going? there's your "ethics" right there.

[windup]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Jun 4 2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Rogmok@Jun 4 2003, 10:21 AM
is it unethical to continue to work for someone/some company and letting them spend money and time training if you know for sure that you are planning to quit soon??

do companies expect people to do this?? what is acceptable?

i'm asking, cause i'm gonna quit to go back to school, but i don' tknow how much time/notice to give them.  and going to meetings and being given long term projects that i know i won't finish,.. i kinda feel like i'm lying.
ethics? hahahah!
just do what is written on your contract. this is a job, it's all about making money. do you think they'll think twice about laying you off if they don't have enough money to keep things going? there's your "ethics" right there.
depends on how they treat you I suppse. I tend to agree with SWK on this one though. companies, especially larger ones have very little regard for their employees. some do things to keep employees "placated", but in the end it's all about money to them. the company won't hesitate to shaft you, so in that regards you should do whatever is stated in your contract. of course if you want a recommendation later...you might not want to burn bridges on your way out.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by Rogmok@Jun 4 2003, 06:21 AM
is it unethical to continue to work for someone/some company and letting them spend money and time training if you know for sure that you are planning to quit soon??

do companies expect people to do this?? what is acceptable?

i'm asking, cause i'm gonna quit to go back to school, but i don' tknow how much time/notice to give them. and going to meetings and being given long term projects that i know i won't finish,.. i kinda feel like i'm lying.
If the training will advance your career or look good on a resume, take it.

[Rogmok]

hmm. well, this is a relatively small company.. about 35 consultants, privately owned. And they have treated me pretty good here, which is why i don't want to string them along

in terms of useful training, i'm switching industries entirely.. so extra training won't be of too much benefit.. other than having something new to put on my resume.

[Danny]

if you feel that the company you have been with has treated you well, i would tell them... if you feel comfortable there and like the people... I would state something... if they are using you like a corporate weenie and just jacking your shit off, then I tell you, go fuck them...

In certain states, "right to work" states (FL and CA are the only two that I know) they can fire you at a moments notice, and you have the right to leave at a moments notice.

[VV o n g B a]

if u like them, then tell them. and maybe they'll counter-offer u if it really puts them in a tight spot. :)

[Everglaze]

Do what you think is right for you. Remember to always have a backup plan though because "anything" can happen.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by Rogmok@Jun 4 2003, 10:48 AM
hmm. well, this is a relatively small company.. about 35 consultants, privately owned. And they have treated me pretty good here, which is why i don't want to string them along

in terms of useful training, i'm switching industries entirely.. so extra training won't be of too much benefit.. other than having something new to put on my resume.
I'm thinking that you are answering your own questions then. Don't take the training.

If you like the company, then you should give them fair notice that you plan to leave the company. Explain how thankful your are, etc.

[mr. x]

Originally posted by Rogmok@Jun 4 2003, 06:21 AM
is it unethical to continue to work for someone/some company and letting them spend money and time training if you know for sure that you are planning to quit soon??

do companies expect people to do this?? what is acceptable?

i'm asking, cause i'm gonna quit to go back to school, but i don' tknow how much time/notice to give them. and going to meetings and being given long term projects that i know i won't finish,.. i kinda feel like i'm lying.
rog, if we are talking about a smalltime company maybe a lil unethical, but if were talking about a monster umbrella corp that treats thousands of dollars like chump change then nobody gets hurt...

keep in mind the economy is not in such great shape, u need all the help u can get

[amietron]

I worked at Macy's for a month and I sorta walked out without notice. My parents got really really mad at me after they found out about what I did but I have no regrets. The job was such BS. What's the point of working if there's no progress in it? Co-workers said they'd been working there for a long time and still no pay raise. I didn't really care because the pay was crap and Macy's is a big corporation that can afford to lose a few dollars.

[Emperor_Mike]

Originally posted by Rogmok@Jun 4 2003, 10:48 AM
hmm. well, this is a relatively small company.. about 35 consultants, privately owned. And they have treated me pretty good here, which is why i don't want to string them along

in terms of useful training, i'm switching industries entirely.. so extra training won't be of too much benefit.. other than having something new to put on my resume.
It would be unethical, yes. Put yourself in their shoes, for example. Would you want to hire someone and have them quit immediately after you spend time, effort, and resources to train them? I wouldn't so perhaps you should put in some time like say, a month or four. You know, enough to satisfy the "unspoken" rule between employees and employers. Or something like that.

It's also a small company to boot so they might not be able to afford the hit productivity wise if a newly hired employee leaves.

That's my take on things in any case. :)

[kimpossible]

You have to worry about you and your career first. Sure, it is a small investment on the company's part to spin up a new empoyee, but if you're young and new let's face it; the company won't cease functioning once you go and they're trying you out just as you're trying out this job. If it doesn't work out don't spend a lot of time mentally kicking your ass about what-ifs. You may even be under the terms of work at will, meaning they can either fire you or you can quit without notice.

From what you wrote it doesn't appear to me that you're out to screw them, you simply want to move onto a new opportunity. That is perfectly natural, and most likely a good move. I trust that you put a lot of thought into your options and chose the right one for you at this time. So go with your instinct.

As for your exit, which I feel is your main concern at this point, just make sure to attempt as graceful an exit as possible. Perform your job well until the last day, thank them for the opportunity, for providing a great environment to learn, and don't burn any bridges. The only other thing to consider is how you will answer the question 'why did you leave this job?' at interviews for the next couple of years, if applicable of course.

In summary, two goals for you right now: 1) Transition to school 2) Finishing this job out on a good note. You've decided that going back to school is the right move for you. Trust in that.