Worst experience with racism?

[Faithless]

Mine's a toss-up of two (one threatening one sad):

* In junior high, some punks threatened to harm me. Left an indelible scar for months, trying to avoid them boys. Went to a different high school to avoid them.

* In college. Encountered a group of school childrenwhile walking home who called-out, "hey chinaman."

I think I could have beat up the latter group.

[Fireblade]

Back when I transferred from a high school in S.F. to Davis, a couple of skin head kids kept on harassing me. I basically didn't have any friends, and the asian kids in the school were taiwanese/spoke mandarin, and didn't want anything to do with my lousy cantonese speaking self. Anyway, these kids pushed me around, threw rocks at me, and screamed white power to my face, racist slurs, and spit in my face. I think the worst one was when they tried to run me over in their ford pickup truck. I didn't know what to do, since I never encountered shit like that before. There were also stupid ass hispanic kids who thought I knew some asian triad gangsters and also harassed me, cuz they wanted to prove their gangsta pride. Of course the hispanic kids didn't do much, except asked me who I knew, blah blah blah. But the skinheads always did verbal and physical abuse to me. And mind you, it was like a group of 5 tall white suburban kids...

They stopped bothering me when one day I went totally nuts and went Cujo on one guy during one weekly beat-up, and bruised my knuckles pretty bad. They kinda just left me alone after that.

[AngryABCGirl]

Wow... that makes me postive about Davis, CA. I have a friend whose taking her little brother to attend high school in Davis since she's moving up there for college and theres no one here to take care of him. That makes me worried.

No one has ever tried to be blantantly racist to me before because I'm not the type of person you want to go up to and call something just be seeing too many piercings on a too big body. For me it's always been more subtle things even though my friends have encountered being called Chinks and shoved out of the way in lines because they were smaller. But the subtle stupid stuff hurts more.

This isn't the worse, but most idiotic and one that bothered me this most:

For me I had to watch a panel of international journalists in a journalism class, and the professor who was also in the video kept asking the Chinese journalist who had been jailed during Tianenmen Square about America journalism, and he basically said American journalism was too biased to be accurate.

And then she kept saying stuff, "Can you imagine that stuff? That's what happens when you help your students if you're Chinese."

Then there were the statements of "You finished those articles already? How could you read that fast, English isn't your first language? I know you have problems writing papers because you probaly don't get enough English at home."

The sad thing was the students who more mostly white boarding school kids or kids from Hong Kong who went to International schools kept agreeing with her. I didn't know how to deal with this back then, because now I probably would have refuted everything she said and gotten things a little messy. This wasn't in my hometown so I didn't have any idea how to deal with being treated like a foreigner or having China insulted so many times(lists of what she said went on forever that could have been proved inaccurate if you walked around Beijing for ten minutes).

It was just a really sucky situation, and I ended up not going to class a lot because I was sick of the American-centric attitude, even though I didn't know what it was back then. It's made me phobic of leaving ethnic neighborhoods.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

getting jumped at a party by three ABCs who thought I was a white guy, only to be rescued by two FOBs.

from white people, ya mean? uh maybe the guy who stood in line behind me at the boston bus station and said "hurry up ching-chong" when I was talking on the phone in hakka. "sticks and stones may break my bones ..." etc. also I'm not sure but I think he was Latino.

[Emperor_Mike]

Can't recall having experienced any type of racism. My childhood and adolescent years were pretty tame and social gatherings were by and large multi-ethnic (as I practically have friends from every racial spectrum.) Don't remember any particular problems with "strangers" either. But I guess living in Vancouver, British Columbia may have been a contributing factor to the lack of racial epithets in my early years (Vancouver has a very visible Asian minority.)

Perhaps I'm just lucky to have avoided the narrow-minded individuals who usually fling these filthy comments.

[My Name Is...]

- people making fun of my eyes (pulling back the skin around the eyes to make the slant)
- a kid telling me to go back to my country. I told him to go back to his. (This kid was latino and he had a semi-thick accent. :lol: )

nothing too serious I can think of.

Fireblade, that was some tough ish you went through.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@May 3 2003, 02:58 PM
getting jumped at a party by three ABCs who thought I was a white guy, only to be rescued by two FOBs.
That's sad. That can be racism in a sense, if the ABC's were fighting you because your race.

[DragonKnight]

I don't recall ever being a victim of a racisim in my hometown. Asians are the majority from where I come from.

I did experience a bit of it at my old job in Pleasant Hill. Some white folk trying to immitate some fake ass Chinese accent So when they asked me a question, I busted out my wannabe ebonics ish on them. Least to say the look on their faces was priceless. :D

-Rich, "wassup foo?"

[Faithless]

Pleasant Hill's only experience with Asians is probably through its restaurants. :blink:

[tvbdude]

I was waiting for a pizza with my father and cousin and this old fat cracker started talking shit about how he's been in the war and I've killed you people........some shit like that

Me and a friend was sitting in a shuttle with these 2 other white kids. The cracker bus driver says to the younger white girl, scared, if they do anything I'll pull out my gun and shoot them.

I was buying some stuff at circuit city with $100 in cash and the fat white woman was examining it in the light like it was counterfeit. Later she said I don't have another bag for one of your items. She could always get more from the back or the next register. ---subtle racist

White people watch out, cuz this chink is full of anger :angry: :pissed:

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 3 2003, 06:49 PM
Pleasant Hill's only experience with Asians is probably through its restaurants. :blink:
Hehe, dunno Pleasant Hill all that well, eh? Diablo Valley College has quite a large Asian population. So does the rest of the area itself. Plus, the Asian Student Union there was pretty strong as well. At least when my friend and I were the presidents of our respective school years. ;)

-Rich

[Emperor_Mike]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 3 2003, 09:12 PM
I was waiting for a pizza with my father and cousin and this old fat cracker started talking shit about how he's been in the war and I've killed you people........some shit like that

Me and a friend was sitting in a shuttle with these 2 other white kids. The cracker bus driver says to the younger white girl, scared, if they do anything I'll pull out my gun and shoot them.

I was buying some stuff at circuit city with $100 in cash and the fat white woman was examining it in the light like it was counterfeit. Later she said I don't have another bag for one of your items. She could always get more from the back or the next register. ---subtle racist

White people watch out, cuz this chink is full of anger :angry: :pissed:
That's so very sad. :( It's pretty depressing to learn that these types of people are still out there in large numbers. What's even worse is the fact that they'll likely teach their kids these values and the problem will never die.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 3 2003, 09:19 PM
Hehe, dunno Pleasant Hill all that well, eh? Diablo Valley College has quite a large Asian population. So does the rest of the area itself. Plus, the Asian Student Union there was pretty strong as well. At least when my friend and I were the presidents of our respective school years. ;)

-Rich
It's a tongue in cheek thing. But I think you run into more redneck types in East Contra Costa, CA.

[angel nympho]

Once, on this one website, *coughcough*, somebody called me a slut for white cock.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 05:12 AM
I was buying some stuff at circuit city with $100 in cash and the fat white woman was examining it in the light like it was counterfeit.
*Blank stare* ...RACIST! Umm, isn't it good business to check $100 bills to make sure they're okay? I mean, if you don't have those nifty pen things...?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 3 2003, 10:35 PM
I don't recall ever being a victim of a racisim in my hometown. Asians are the majority from where I come from.

I did experience a bit of it at my old job in Pleasant Hill. Some white folk trying to immitate some fake ass Chinese accent So when they asked me a question, I busted out my wannabe ebonics ish on them. Least to say the look on their faces was priceless. :D

-Rich, "wassup foo?"
you should have just started talking to them in chinese. (wait, are you chinese?)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 3 2003, 09:38 PM
That's sad. That can be racism in a sense, if the ABC's were fighting you because your race.
what do you mean that can be racism? that is racism, because they thought he was white. and it's also stupidity because he's mixed.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 3 2003, 11:05 PM
Once, on this one website, *coughcough*, somebody called me a slut for white cock.
Why does that sound HOT?

Seriously, why?

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 4 2003, 07:20 AM
Why does that sound HOT?

Seriously, why?
Cuz it came out of my hot vanilla-sucking mouth.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 3 2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 4 2003, 07:20 AM
Why does that sound HOT?

Seriously, why?
Cuz it came out of my hot vanilla-sucking mouth.
Give yourself 69 Karma points for that!

[tvbdude]

more...

I was riding my bike and this fat cracker intentionally tried to knowck me down. He was walking backwards pretending he didn't see me. His friends are laughing like gayass hyenas.

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 3 2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 3 2003, 09:19 PM
Hehe, dunno Pleasant Hill all that well, eh?  Diablo Valley College has quite a large Asian population.  So does the rest of the area itself.  Plus, the Asian Student Union there was pretty strong as well.  At least when my friend and I were the presidents of our respective school years. ;)

-Rich
It's a tongue in cheek thing. But I think you run into more redneck types in East Contra Costa, CA.
Ah, gotcha. Hmm, I ran into my share, but not as many as one would think for East Contra Costa County. There are a few pockets here and there, but slowly yet oh-so-delicately they are being integrated into modern society. :D

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 3 2003, 11:10 PM
you should have just started talking to them in chinese. (wait, are you chinese?)
Nope, though I've been mistaken for Chinese way too many times to count.

Filipino mixed with Chinese. ;)

[Green_Jade]

i can't remember specific events though there have been a bit
but... personally
it pisses me off more when another minority makes racial commets to me..because, I know that they t hemselves know what it's like...

so why the fuck would you make an ass out of yourself?? baffling.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 09:11 PM
more...

I was riding my bike and this fat cracker intentionally tried to knowck me down. He was walking backwards pretending he didn't see me. His friends are laughing like gayass hyenas.
Did he succeed?

[Faithless]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 4 2003, 09:28 PM
Nope, though I've been mistaken for Chinese way too many times to count.

Filipino mixed with Chinese. ;)
Hm. Well, there's nothing better than smiling at them and saying stuff like, "tangina
mo." (Or something like that.)

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 4 2003, 10:57 PM
Hm. Well, there's nothing better than smiling at them and saying stuff like, "tangina
mo." (Or something like that.)
Heh, something like that. Unfortunately I don't speak Tagalog. ^_^

[Faithless]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 4 2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 4 2003, 10:57 PM
Hm.  Well, there's nothing better than smiling at them and saying stuff like, "tangina
mo." (Or something like that.)
Heh, something like that. Unfortunately I don't speak Tagalog. ^_^
Actually, I don't speak any of the Asian languages well. I know Japanese the most.

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 4 2003, 11:41 PM
Actually, I don't speak any of the Asian languages well. I know Japanese the most.
Lolz, same here. Plus a tiny bit of Cantonese I learned from my ex-gf. Dunno how to say it correctly, but I do recognize the Cantonese saying for "I'll kill you." :blink:

[Faithless]

I'm wondering, from the racist experience(s) one might encounter, if the old saying -- "That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

I know from seeing it and experiencing that I'm a better man for not practicing it myself.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 5 2003, 02:03 AM
Lolz, same here. Plus a tiny bit of Cantonese I learned from my ex-gf. Dunno how to say it correctly, but I do recognize the Cantonese saying for "I'll kill you." :blink:
You learned that phrase from your ex-girlfriend? I guess you didn't part on friendly terms, then...

[airborneranger]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 3 2003, 11:05 PM
Once, on this one website, *coughcough*, somebody called me a slut for white cock.
Have you ever been attracted to orientals or just caucasians ?

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@May 5 2003, 02:55 AM
You learned that phrase from your ex-girlfriend? I guess you didn't part on friendly terms, then...
Heh, aren't you assuming a little too much? :rolleyes:

We parted on friendly terms so you are completely wrong on your assumption/guessing. As for the relationship itself, it was probably one of the best ones I've been in. Reason why she used "I'll kill you" a lot is that she's a tomboy and quite aggressive. Her nickname among my friends is "Angel of Death".

I have something to ask you, YuheiCarreau. Next time, don't assume, don't guess, ask me. Better yet, PM me with questions since threads can get too off topic with too many questions pertaining to individual posters. I am more than willing to answer reasonable questions than to have you guess/assume things that can easily be answered by myself. Thank you for your time.

-Rich

[artsfartsyjanet]

the most recent racist remark was not the worst happened two days ago (on the day of my grandmothe's funeral) waiting for the traffic light to turn green. I was in the passenger seat. The car to might right was one of those hooptie cars w/ loud banging music. The people in the car were black, but that's not the point. My windows were down, and the driver of the hooptie twice goes,"hey do you have any rice?" All I did was press the button to roll up the window. They weren't worth my time. =)

The WORST.... a firefighter telling my whole family to go back to China where we came from. I was only 11 y.o. then i think.... My house has been egged several times too. My car's been stomped on by a bunch of kids but I am not sure if that was racially motivated.

[tvbdude]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 5 2003, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 09:11 PM
more...

I was riding my bike and this fat cracker intentionally tried to knowck me down. He was walking backwards pretending he didn't see me. His friends are laughing like gayass hyenas.
Did he succeed?
you could say that. he just gently bumped into me. well, that's better than him poking a stick into my tires

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@May 5 2003, 10:04 AM
Heh, aren't you assuming a little too much? :rolleyes:

We parted on friendly terms so you are completely wrong on your assumption/guessing. As for the relationship itself, it was probably one of the best ones I've been in. Reason why she used "I'll kill you" a lot is that she's a tomboy and quite aggressive. Her nickname among my friends is "Angel of Death".

I have something to ask you, YuheiCarreau. Next time, don't assume, don't guess, ask me. Better yet, PM me with questions since threads can get too off topic with too many questions pertaining to individual posters. I am more than willing to answer reasonable questions than to have you guess/assume things that can easily be answered by myself. Thank you for your time.

-Rich
sheesh unless u were joking, isn't that a bit on the sensitive side :blink:

[sOKaLiBoY]

all i usually get is someone calling me a jap....which is cool with me. i used to have people come up to me in middle/high school and ask me to translate something written in japanese to english. jeez ppl just because i look japanese doesn't mean i can speak or read it. :rolleyes:

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by FrozenPizza@May 6 2003, 12:39 PM
sheesh unless u were joking, isn't that a bit on the sensitive side :blink:
We already discussed this via PM. Keep in mind I have no idea who he is nor his intentions in his posts. I pretty much forgot my place as still being a newbie here. My apologies to everyone for being too much on the defensive. ;)

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by sOKaLiBoY@May 6 2003, 04:10 PM
all i usually get is someone calling me a jap....which is cool with me. i used to have people come up to me in middle/high school and ask me to translate something written in japanese to english. jeez ppl just because i look japanese doesn't mean i can speak or read it. :rolleyes:
in an IM conversation once with this Japanese-American girl, she got so pissed at me for saying jap. But the funny thing was that it was part of a course code ... the university I attended in Hong Kong used JAP as the course code prefix for everything in the Japanese Studies department. Of course all universities in the US are careful to use something like JPN or EAJ or something like that. the exact quote like:

her: which course was that?
me: jap 4370 advanced business japanese
her: what did you say?
her: you know, I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't use that word
me: huh?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by artsfartsyjanet@May 5 2003, 02:24 PM
the most recent racist remark was not the worst happened two days ago (on the day of my grandmothe's funeral) waiting for the traffic light to turn green. I was in the passenger seat. The car to might right was one of those hooptie cars w/ loud banging music. The people in the car were black, but that's not the point. My windows were down, and the driver of the hooptie twice goes,"hey do you have any rice?" All I did was press the button to roll up the window. They weren't worth my time. =)
i would have said, "depends. do you have any fried chicken or watermelon?"

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@May 6 2003, 06:42 PM
in an IM conversation once with this Japanese-American girl, she got so pissed at me for saying jap. But the funny thing was that it was part of a course code ... the university I attended in Hong Kong used JAP as the course code prefix for everything in the Japanese Studies department. Of course all universities in the US are careful to use something like JPN or EAJ or something like that. the exact quote like:

her: which course was that?
me: jap 4370 advanced business japanese
her: what did you say?
her: you know, I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't use that word
me: huh?
hahahhahhahhahhahhah!!!

typical american. everything revolves around him/her, of course. :rolleyes:

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 6 2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@May 6 2003, 06:42 PM
in an IM conversation once with this Japanese-American girl, she got so pissed at me for saying jap. But the funny thing was that it was part of a course code ... the university I attended in Hong Kong used JAP as the course code prefix for everything in the Japanese Studies department. Of course all universities in the US are careful to use something like JPN or EAJ or something like that. the exact quote like:

her: which course was that?
me: jap 4370 advanced business japanese
her: what did you say?
her: you know, I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't use that word
me: huh?
hahahhahhahhahhahhah!!!

typical american. everything revolves around him/her, of course. :rolleyes:
Jesus, you two. Always bashin' the AAs. You guys both must have serious inferiority complexes towards 'em, 'cause you're always relating stupid stuff people do to their being AA. Japanese Americans don't like seeing the word Jap because there are people in this country that call them Jap; people in HK or the rest of Asia don't have that problem, but that doesn't mean that JAs are just being touchy. Could we just for once have a conversation without the subtle jabs at people who don't consider themselves FOB?

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by airborneranger@May 5 2003, 12:05 PM
Have you ever been attracted to orientals or just caucasians ?
I've only dated one white guy in my entire 19 years of existence.

[Uncle Tat]

Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas.

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion. It's not like chink or gook or anything. Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by Uncle Tat@May 7 2003, 05:55 PM
Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas. 

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion.  It's not like chink or gook or anything.  Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.
Why isn't Jap as bad as Chink or Gook? I mean, it's the only one of the three that could be mistaken for an abbreviation of the more polite term, but it's still a slur.

[AngryABCGirl]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@May 7 2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@May 7 2003, 05:55 PM
Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas.

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion. It's not like chink or gook or anything. Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.
Why isn't Jap as bad as Chink or Gook? I mean, it's the only one of the three that could be mistaken for an abbreviation of the more polite term, but it's still a slur.
It's about the history of the term. I think jap is just as bad or chink or gook or nigger or wetback, etc.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Uncle Tat@May 7 2003, 07:55 PM
Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas.

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion. It's not like chink or gook or anything. Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.
it's an honest mistake because "jap" is only a western or american term. this was in HK.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 7 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@May 7 2003, 07:55 PM
Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas. 

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion.  It's not like chink or gook or anything.  Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.
it's an honest mistake because "jap" is only a western or american term. this was in HK.
Yes, but he was talking to a Japanese American girl. Being a typical American and all, not as worldly as you of course, she just didn't know.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@May 7 2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 7 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@May 7 2003, 07:55 PM
Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas.

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion. It's not like chink or gook or anything. Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.
it's an honest mistake because "jap" is only a western or american term. this was in HK.
Yes, but he was talking to a Japanese American girl. Being a typical American and all, not as worldly as you of course, she just didn't know.
hahhah

well... if she's hot, then none of that matters. :D

[BeTheReds]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 02:12 PM

I was buying some stuff at circuit city with $100 in cash and the fat white woman was examining it in the light like it was counterfeit.
She probably does it to everyone who pays with a 100.

When I worked in the mall, it was store policy to check all 100s with this special pen. Clear = Real, Black = fake.

This isn't racism, it's all in your head.

The other two sound like exaggerations to me.

[BeTheReds]

I'm not Japanese, so I can't say I have any opinion on the word one way or the other. It's never been hurled my way, so I don't care.

But..

As far as the slurs go, Jap is not very offensive. I think Nip is worse than Jap. It also depends on the context.

[tvbdude]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 7 2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 02:12 PM

I was buying some stuff at circuit city with $100 in cash and the fat white woman was examining it in the light like it was counterfeit.
She probably does it to everyone who pays with a 100.

When I worked in the mall, it was store policy to check all 100s with this special pen. Clear = Real, Black = fake.

This isn't racism, it's all in your head.

The other two sound like exaggerations to me.
I swear to god that shit was real. Did you read the whole paragraph about the $100? She also lied to me she didn't have any bags when she can get some from the back. And while she's checking the bill, this other employee was saying some stuff.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 7 2003, 09:48 PM
I'm not Japanese, so I can't say I have any opinion on the word one way or the other. It's never been hurled my way, so I don't care.

But..

As far as the slurs go, Jap is not very offensive. I think Nip is worse than Jap. It also depends on the context.
I've seen the word Nip in print, but IMO most non-Asians are too dumb to make the connection between Nihonjin and Japanese to know that Nip is a slur for Japanese.

I've been called a Jap by some real assholes, so while I'm sure that Nip is just as bad I wouldn't say Jap is less offensive. Like I said before, it's just the only one that people say by mistake.

[applehead]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 7 2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by BeTheReds@May 7 2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 02:12 PM

I was buying some stuff at circuit city with $100 in cash and the fat white woman was examining it in the light like it was counterfeit.
She probably does it to everyone who pays with a 100.

When I worked in the mall, it was store policy to check all 100s with this special pen. Clear = Real, Black = fake.

This isn't racism, it's all in your head.

The other two sound like exaggerations to me.
I swear to god that shit was real. Did you read the whole paragraph about the $100? She also lied to me she didn't have any bags when she can get some from the back. And while she's checking the bill, this other employee was saying some stuff.
yeah sometimes. if you weren't
the one targeted, it's hard to explain.

in high school there was this gym teacher.
and she was racist. we didn't have proof
and she never did anything forthright confirming
it but we all knew. it's just the way she would talk
to asian students and the way she looked at us.
then one day, after roll call, i guess i didn't
get up quickly enough for her when she
told us to form groups, she threw a basketball
at my face, breaking my glasses.
and she said it was an accident but how
the hell do you accidentally aim that sucker
right at someone's face?

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by YuheiCarreau@May 8 2003, 03:46 AM
I've seen the word Nip in print, but IMO most non-Asians are too dumb to make the connection between Nihonjin and Japanese to know that Nip is a slur for Japanese.
Actually "nip" was popular currency around WWII. You don't need to know foreign language just to use a word like that or even to understand it. These things likely trickled down from linguists/army translators to the general population. Most people yelling "gook" have no idea how to speak Korean either or even that it originated in the Korean war. Similarly, "Russkie," the term for Russians, used a lot more when the cold war was going on, which isn't quite derogatory, but not so polite either, came from Russian itself. You don't need to speak Russian to know it's referring to Russians.

Like I said before, it's just the only one that people say by mistake.

yet no one ever gets the benefit of the doubt

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Uncle Tat@May 7 2003, 03:55 PM
Seriously though I think sometimes people are just overly sensitive and have sand in their vaginas.

I mean Jap isn't really THAT bad in my opinion. It's not like chink or gook or anything. Could have been an honest mistake since Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese.
That's an interesting justification for a offensive slur -- "don't be overly sensitive, but if you must persist...well, I didn't mean what I said anyway."

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 8 2003, 07:58 PM
That's an interesting justification for a offensive slur -- "don't be overly sensitive, but if you must persist...well, I didn't mean what I said anyway."
the point being that there exist cases where jap might be used without any malicious intent or even any intention of referring to japanese americans at all, and in that case it's a bit ridiculous to get so worked up. "hey you dirty jap" is obviously offensive. "ADV WRTN JAP FOR BUS" isn't exactly in the same category. You wouldn't tend to say it by mistake, but writing is a whole different story.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@May 8 2003, 05:19 PM
the point being that there exist cases where jap might be used without any malicious intent...
Calling someone an "Oriental" I can understand...but "Jap"?!? I haven't read the thread entirely so I may have missed out on some interesting stories of folks misusing the word, like "negro" I guess.

[deez nuts]

we beat up this yardie in brooklyn. jumped him for his weed and money when i was in ninth grade. cuz he was racist and stiffed us on our forty of dro. he only gave the good shit to the other island negros, gave us the lower quality shit while charging us the same price as the high quality shit.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@May 8 2003, 07:19 PM
the point being that there exist cases where jap might be used without any malicious intent or even any intention of referring to japanese americans at all, and in that case it's a bit ridiculous to get so worked up. "hey you dirty jap" is obviously offensive. "ADV WRTN JAP FOR BUS" isn't exactly in the same category. You wouldn't tend to say it by mistake, but writing is a whole different story.
Yes, but before it seeme as though you and a few others were making the case that, when Jap is used as a slur, it's a less offensive slur than "chink" or "gook". I agree that sometimes people jump all over that one word without examining the context it's in, but at the same time I don't think there's anything wrong with me being offended when my high school English teacher started talking about how such-and-such college had too many JAPs (Jewish American Princess, in this case).

But most Japanese people don't even know the history of the word Jap, nor do they know much if anything about the way JAs were treated during WW2, so who do you expect to get offended by it? The situation you described seemed like a case of crossed wires; your friend probably thought you didn't know that Jap was a slur and was trying to inform you of that fact. I agree that she jumped the gun a little... But like I said, for some people that word is so volatile it gets them all worked up before they have a chance to think about it.

I can see why you don't think it's a big deal, and I can see why your friend thought it was, but what I can't understand is why you think it was so wrong or stupid of her to make an honest mistake, and one that any self-respecting JA would make. Not everyone has the language skills, the time, the money, or even just the courage to live abroad and see how things are done in the rest of the world, and many AAs, having been raised in America, can only look at the word Jap in its American context - as a slur. When I went to the UK and people called me Oriental, I was pissed, but I figured out after a while that over there Asian means South Asian and Oriental means East Asian; but if I'd never left the US, and been called an Oriental by a British person, would you think I was being stupid if I was offended? By that logic, Japanese in Japan are stupid for not understanding the very demeaning effect that the word Jap has - since it was, after all, intended as a slur against Japanese people.

Why is it OK for people in HK to use Jap as a neutral abbreviation while ignorant of its more offensive definition, but stupid for a JA to think it's only a negative word, and not just an abbreviation? What's the difference?

[deez nuts]

stupid racist strippers. everytime i go to a titty bar, the dancers zone in on me or my asian friends and ask me if i'm here on business from japan.

those ho-bags all think i'm some japanese businessman able to drop mad bills.

then, there are always one or two asian stripper stragglers in the flock that think by virtue of the same skin color as me that it's a guaranteed wrap that i'll say yes to a lapdance from them, not matter how busted or broke they look.

racist bizatches on both accounts.

[Deadpool]

Originally posted by Emperor_Mike@May 3 2003, 03:56 PM
Can't recall having experienced any type of racism. My childhood and adolescent years were pretty tame and social gatherings were by and large multi-ethnic (as I practically have friends from every racial spectrum.) Don't remember any particular problems with "strangers" either. But I guess living in Vancouver, British Columbia may have been a contributing factor to the lack of racial epithets in my early years (Vancouver has a very visible Asian minority.)

Perhaps I'm just lucky to have avoided the narrow-minded individuals who usually fling these filthy comments.
Yeah. Same here. I live in Vancouver too. The population is very diverse. A lot of Asians here. I think I may have been called chink in grade school, but yeah that wasn't bad. Some drunk native guy asked me to show him some kung fuu once. Then he started to flail his arms in mock Kung Fu fashion. LoL.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@May 8 2003, 09:24 PM
Calling someone an "Oriental" I can understand...but "Jap"?!? I haven't read the thread entirely so I may have missed out on some interesting stories of folks misusing the word, like "negro" I guess.
he's referring to "ADV WRTN JAP FOR BUS". the abbreviation for a japanese language course.

[Deadpool]

THOSE COURSE CODES ARE DAMN RACISTS!

[Faithless]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 7 2003, 03:49 PM
I've only dated one white guy in my entire 19 years of existence.
And the first seven or eight years don't really count. :P

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 11 2003, 06:03 PM
And the first seven or eight years don't really count. :P
Haha, when I was like, 7.. I had two boyfriends in my class. :) One was this Japanese kid who turned out to be SOOOO HOT (and really really really popular) and the other was this half filipino kid who grew up to be SUPREMELY HOT too. Damn dude, where'd those pimping skills go???

[Faithless]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 11 2003, 05:43 PM
Haha, when I was like, 7.. I had two boyfriends in my class. :) One was this Japanese kid who turned out to be SOOOO HOT (and really really really popular) and the other was this half filipino kid who grew up to be SUPREMELY HOT too. Damn dude, where'd those pimping skills go???
I'm thinking that at that age, your parents didn't really consider that dating.

It's when things "can happen", when it's really dating. Now, things can happen at seven or eight, but dating leading to tummy filling with fetus is where dating probably really counts.

[YuheiCarreau]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 12 2003, 01:37 PM
I'm thinking that at that age, your parents didn't really consider that dating.

It's when things "can happen", when it's really dating. Now, things can happen at seven or eight, but dating leading to tummy filling with fetus is where dating probably really counts.
Dude, you make it sound like she'd be eating the babies. :gross:

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 12 2003, 07:37 PM
I'm thinking that at that age, your parents didn't really consider that dating.

It's when things "can happen", when it's really dating. Now, things can happen at seven or eight, but dating leading to tummy filling with fetus is where dating probably really counts.
Yeah, I know. I was just saying.

And yeah, hey, I don't eat babies.

[Faithless]

Sorry if I gave the impression that she'd be eating babies.

But the bear probably tastes good, eh?

http://forums.yellowworld.org/uploads/av-38.jpg

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 12 2003, 11:48 PM
Sorry if I gave the impression that she'd be eating babies.

But the bear probably tastes good, eh?

http://forums.yellowworld.org/uploads/av-38.jpg
*Drools* You better believe it.

I love taking him out of my mouth and playing with him while he's a big ball of spit and matted fur. ...Can't you see the fear in his eyes?

[Faithless]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 12 2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 12 2003, 11:48 PM
Sorry if I gave the impression that she'd be eating babies.

But the bear probably tastes good, eh?

http://forums.yellowworld.org/uploads/av-38.jpg
*Drools* You better believe it.

I love taking him out of my mouth and playing with him while he's a big ball of spit and matted fur. ...Can't you see the fear in his eyes?
Looks like a mixture of contentment and anticipation.

[mr. x]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 9 2003, 07:59 AM
stupid racist strippers. everytime i go to a titty bar, the dancers zone in on me or my asian friends and ask me if i'm here on business from japan.

those ho-bags all think i'm some japanese businessman able to drop mad bills.

then, there are always one or two asian stripper stragglers in the flock that think by virtue of the same skin color as me that it's a guaranteed wrap that i'll say yes to a lapdance from them, not matter how busted or broke they look.

racist bizatches on both accounts.
dude, they could say worse things like "eww im not lapdancing for a gook" or something.

its a titty bar for bob's sake! these girls arent exactly into hemingway

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by mr. x@May 14 2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 9 2003, 07:59 AM
stupid racist strippers.  everytime i go to a titty bar, the dancers zone in on me or my asian friends and ask me if i'm here on business from japan.

those ho-bags all think i'm some japanese businessman able to drop mad bills.

then, there are always one or two asian stripper stragglers in the flock that think by virtue of the same skin color as me that it's a guaranteed wrap that  i'll say yes to a lapdance from them, not matter how busted or broke they look.

racist bizatches on both accounts.
dude, they could say worse things like "eww im not lapdancing for a gook" or something.

its a titty bar for bob's sake! these girls arent exactly into hemingway
hahahahaha

[lethal]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 15 2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by mr. x@May 14 2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 9 2003, 07:59 AM
stupid racist strippers. everytime i go to a titty bar, the dancers zone in on me or my asian friends and ask me if i'm here on business from japan.

those ho-bags all think i'm some japanese businessman able to drop mad bills.

then, there are always one or two asian stripper stragglers in the flock that think by virtue of the same skin color as me that it's a guaranteed wrap that i'll say yes to a lapdance from them, not matter how busted or broke they look.

racist bizatches on both accounts.
dude, they could say worse things like "eww im not lapdancing for a gook" or something.

its a titty bar for bob's sake! these girls arent exactly into hemingway
hahahahaha
but they all claim to be college students

[applehead]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@May 15 2003, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 15 2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by mr. x@May 14 2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 9 2003, 07:59 AM
stupid racist strippers. everytime i go to a titty bar, the dancers zone in on me or my asian friends and ask me if i'm here on business from japan.

those ho-bags all think i'm some japanese businessman able to drop mad bills.

then, there are always one or two asian stripper stragglers in the flock that think by virtue of the same skin color as me that it's a guaranteed wrap that i'll say yes to a lapdance from them, not matter how busted or broke they look.

racist bizatches on both accounts.
dude, they could say worse things like "eww im not lapdancing for a gook" or something.

its a titty bar for bob's sake! these girls arent exactly into hemingway
hahahahaha
but they all claim to be college students
or paying their way through law school.

[mr. x]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@May 8 2003, 05:57 PM
we beat up this yardie in brooklyn. jumped him for his weed and money when i was in ninth grade. cuz he was racist and stiffed us on our forty of dro. he only gave the good shit to the other island negros, gave us the lower quality shit while charging us the same price as the high quality shit.
and that my friends is how you get a Karma of 5

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by mr. x@May 15 2003, 07:08 PM
and that my friends is how you get a Karma of 5
well yeah. get with it.

that and bribing the head honcho with the same exact weed in question.

[tvbdude]

white boy threw a paper airplane to my face and the black teacher said, "what the hell are you doing?". then he said shut up fat bitch.

[mr. x]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 15 2003, 08:54 PM
white boy threw a paper airplane to my face and the black teacher said, "what the hell are you doing?". then he said shut up fat bitch.
whoa whoa, so the white boy said the bitch thing?

[tvbdude]

Originally posted by mr. x@May 16 2003, 02:30 AM
whoa whoa, so the white boy said the bitch thing?
yeah

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 15 2003, 11:54 PM
white boy threw a paper airplane to my face and the black teacher said, "what the hell are you doing?". then he said shut up fat bitch.
racist bastards

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 15 2003, 09:54 PM
white boy threw a paper airplane to my face and the black teacher said, "what the hell are you doing?". then he said shut up fat bitch.
and the teacher didn't ask him to apoligize or anything? That's racist. <_<
Unless you leaped out of your chair, and started beating on his ass afterwards, leaving him black and blue.... but mostly hurt. And she didn't say anything. Then that's.... just plain wrong. :lol:

[Tao]

Can't think of the worst case of racism i've experienced, but i do remember the most recent. Me and a couple of friends of mine were out in a supermarket in brooklyn buying some meat and other BBQ stuff for a high school graduation party. While I was picking out the meat, my two friends started talking to each other in Canto, and they weren't really loud or anything, but apparently that ticked off this racist old fart who start to make funny noises, pretending to be saying chinese and shit. I fucking got furious and almost tried to kick his ass. I started cursing him out and stuff. But then an old black clerk saw what happened and tried to calm me down by telling me "it's not worth it, just let it go, he doesn't know any better." And well taht did help me regain some control.

But shit man, Fireblade, I can't imagine going through what you've been through. That's some seriously messed up shit.

Yeah, so now I'm afraid that if stuff like this ever happened again I'd be in over my head, since I wouldn't be able to control my anger. It's strange, people can make fun of me all they want, and i still wouldn't get angry at them. But if anyone ever makes fun of my race and ethnicity, I go nuts.

[Faithless]

Originally posted by Tao@May 16 2003, 05:18 AM
Can't think of the worst case of racism i've experienced, but i do remember the most recent. Me and a couple of friends of mine were out in a supermarket in brooklyn buying some meat and other BBQ stuff for a high school graduation party. While I was picking out the meat, my two friends started talking to each other in Canto, and they weren't really loud or anything, but apparently that ticked off this racist old fart who start to make funny noises, pretending to be saying chinese and shit. I fucking got furious and almost tried to kick his ass. I started cursing him out and stuff. But then an old black clerk saw what happened and tried to calm me down by telling me "it's not worth it, just let it go, he doesn't know any better." And well taht did help me regain some control.

But shit man, Fireblade, I can't imagine going through what you've been through. That's some seriously messed up shit.

Yeah, so now I'm afraid that if stuff like this ever happened again I'd be in over my head, since I wouldn't be able to control my anger. It's strange, people can make fun of me all they want, and i still wouldn't get angry at them. But if anyone ever makes fun of my race and ethnicity, I go nuts.
Were these fine folks from White Castle?

[tvbdude]

Originally posted by Fireblade@May 16 2003, 08:32 AM
and the teacher didn't ask him to apoligize or anything? That's racist. <_<
Unless you leaped out of your chair, and started beating on his ass afterwards, leaving him black and blue.... but mostly hurt. And she didn't say anything. Then that's.... just plain wrong. :lol:
the teacher just told everyone in the class to write a witness statement and send him to the principal. what happens after that I don't know.

[Tao]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 16 2003, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Tao@May 16 2003, 05:18 AM
Can't think of the worst case of racism i've experienced, but i do remember the most recent. Me and a couple of friends of mine were out in a supermarket in brooklyn buying some meat and other BBQ stuff for a high school graduation party. While I was picking out the meat, my two friends started talking to each other in Canto, and they weren't really loud or anything, but apparently that ticked off this racist old fart who start to make funny noises, pretending to be saying chinese and shit. I fucking got furious and almost tried to kick his ass. I started cursing him out and stuff. But then an old black clerk saw what happened and tried to calm me down by telling me "it's not worth it, just let it go, he doesn't know any better." And well taht did help me regain some control.

But shit man, Fireblade, I can't imagine going through what you've been through. That's some seriously messed up shit.

Yeah, so now I'm afraid that if stuff like this ever happened again I'd be in over my head, since I wouldn't be able to control my anger. It's strange, people can make fun of me all they want, and i still wouldn't get angry at them. But if anyone ever makes fun of my race and ethnicity, I go nuts.
Were these fine folks from White Castle?
ummm...no it was a super market. and the old bastard seemed to be a loser and slob.

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by DoggieBreath@May 16 2003, 05:08 PM
But shit man, Fireblade, I can't imagine going through what you've been through. That's some seriously messed up shit.
Look at it this way. I'm glad in a way, because it opened up my eyes, that I'm not immune to racisim. It happens in all forms, and I can't just go about the world with rose-colored lens. Everything and everyone is different. And sometimes this can lead to difficult circumstances.

And I found out that sometimes you have to be agressive, and stand up for yourself, instead of letting things happen. Some things are just not right. And if you continue to not do anything about it, you continue the problem. It doesn't make you any happier. It just makes you more mad and fustrated. Sure, what I did was stupid, and unfortantely I had to get physical. But if I didn't do that, what if something on a more subtle level came about and screwed up the ass? And all the time, I'm like... if I don't do anything about it, it'll go away.

The fact is... IT WON'T.

And that's why I'm easily angered now. Because before I wasn't, and I wouldn't do shit, and I let things happen to me. And for that... I was stupid. I should have stood up for myself in the beginning, and not be a target. Bullies choose weaker people, because they know they won't fight back. Once you start fighting back, that's when they stop.

Why do you think the media continues to portray asians as a subserviant group, who talk loudly, and as weaklings? Why do you think the media is fine with the whole "save us white man" mentality, and get away with it? You think a white guy is gonna save a zulu tribe and be all gung ho about screwing with the woman and be all "I'm your god, obey me" crap? NO. Cuz then there would immediately a group of black political representatives who'll deliver a world of pain for the film-makers, that their heads will spin until they fall into a coma. So, for that question Tao, I am glad that I got beat into reality. Not many people get to see it, and that's why I'm glad that it was that drastic. It was a life-changing moment for me. I saw all forms of racism, but I never voiced anything, because I thought I could ignore the problem. Now I don't.

[ChineseTourist]

Originally posted by Fireblade@May 3 2003, 01:44 PM
Back when I transferred from a high school in S.F. to Davis, a couple of skin head kids kept on harassing me. I basically didn't have any friends, and the asian kids in the school were taiwanese/spoke mandarin, and didn't want anything to do with my lousy cantonese speaking self. Anyway, these kids pushed me around, threw rocks at me, and screamed white power to my face, racist slurs, and spit in my face. I think the worst one was when they tried to run me over in their ford pickup truck. I didn't know what to do, since I never encountered shit like that before. There were also stupid ass hispanic kids who thought I knew some asian triad gangsters and also harassed me, cuz they wanted to prove their gangsta pride. Of course the hispanic kids didn't do much, except asked me who I knew, blah blah blah. But the skinheads always did verbal and physical abuse to me. And mind you, it was like a group of 5 tall white suburban kids...

They stopped bothering me when one day I went totally nuts and went Cujo on one guy during one weekly beat-up, and bruised my knuckles pretty bad. They kinda just left me alone after that.
sorry to not be able to get past the second post without having to butt in.

But I woulda started my own "gang" shortly after that, and brought the fight to the skinheads. Even if not all out violent war, it would entail social sabotage, economic sabotage if they were in business, stuff like that :lol: :D

The end goal would be to convert them or enslave them. B)

[ChineseTourist]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 4 2003, 09:11 PM
more...

I was riding my bike and this fat cracker intentionally tried to knowck me down. He was walking backwards pretending he didn't see me. His friends are laughing like gayass hyenas.
Talk back to them.

People tell me off every now and then when I ride my bike around town :lol:
But it's due to the anti bike sentiment I think, I don't really know the locals but I *do* know that they uniformly HATE bikes on sidewalks. lol

cuz of anti bike ordnances recently passed, the no smoking sign adapted for bikes that someone unkindly pointed out to me :lol: the "biker" solidarity groups

[kuanyin]

some posts ago i saw people write shit like "gayness"
and airborneranger asked if someone had ever dated "orientals."

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RACISM AS CALLING EACH OTHER ORIENTALS??

and why doesn't anybody address shit like this??

[Tao]

Originally posted by kuanyin@May 17 2003, 11:25 AM
some posts ago i saw people write shit like "gayness"
and airborneranger asked if someone had ever dated "orientals."

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RACISM AS CALLING EACH OTHER ORIENTALS??

and why doesn't anybody address shit like this??
good point, i missed the use of "gay" as a disparaging term. But I did wonder why airborne used orientals....but then again he's oriental, so i didn't really fuss over that. but the comments of "gayness" should be addressed though.

[SunWuKong]

i haven't been following this thread. does it need to be closed?

and i don't find anything wrong with the word "oriental".

[mr. x]

yeah close it

[Faithless]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 17 2003, 07:52 AM
i haven't been following this thread. does it need to be closed?

and i don't find anything wrong with the word "oriental".
Why close it?

[ChinaLama]

i think we can leave it. just members should remember that racism isn't the only form of prejudice. :)

[tvbdude]

yea don't close it

[deez nuts]

spread and keep the hate alive!

[AngryABCGirl]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 17 2003, 07:52 AM
i haven't been following this thread. does it need to be closed?

and i don't find anything wrong with the word "oriental".
I few months ago, my school had what we called an Oriental Culturefest when our orchestra played Taiwanese, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc. folksongs and made mountains of food...

and all the white faculty were freaking out that we used the word Oriental while none of the students and parents gave a shit.

Anyone care to explain?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by AzNBuffGrL@May 19 2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 17 2003, 07:52 AM
i haven't been following this thread. does it need to be closed?

and i don't find anything wrong with the word "oriental".
I few months ago, my school had what we called an Oriental Culturefest when our orchestra played Taiwanese, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc. folksongs and made mountains of food...

and all the white faculty were freaking out that we used the word Oriental while none of the students and parents gave a shit.

Anyone care to explain?
hahhah
you cali people are strange, that's why!

actually i think white people can be over-sensitive about racial issues sometimes, namely the liberal white people. this is probably a case of it. they've been labeled by society as racist, and some white people are very careful to try to actually not earn the label.

[sOKaLiBoY]

Originally posted by AzNBuffGrL@May 19 2003, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 17 2003, 07:52 AM
i haven't been following this thread.&nbsp; does it need to be closed?

and i don't find anything wrong with the word "oriental".
I few months ago, my school had what we called an Oriental Culturefest when our orchestra played Taiwanese, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc. folksongs and made mountains of food...

and all the white faculty were freaking out that we used the word Oriental while none of the students and parents gave a shit.

Anyone care to explain?
hmm that makes no sense at all. shouldn't it be the other way around? the only person that i know that has a problem with the word "oriental" is my sister.

[applehead]

Originally posted by AzNBuffGrL@May 19 2003, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@May 17 2003, 07:52 AM
i haven't been following this thread.&nbsp; does it need to be closed?

and i don't find anything wrong with the word "oriental".
I few months ago, my school had what we called an Oriental Culturefest when our orchestra played Taiwanese, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc. folksongs and made mountains of food...

and all the white faculty were freaking out that we used the word Oriental while none of the students and parents gave a shit.

Anyone care to explain?
hahahahahha
white people are so cute sometimes.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by kuanyin@May 17 2003, 03:25 PM
some posts ago i saw people write shit like "gayness"
and airborneranger asked if someone had ever dated "orientals."

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RACISM AS CALLING EACH OTHER ORIENTALS??

and why doesn't anybody address shit like this??
I think we've already had enough discussion about that word.

What really bugs me is people referring to "crackers" and shit throughout this thread like it's nothing. I mean, whatever, it's not a big deal... but it's interesting to me that you'd mention "orential" without referring to the stuff that's REALLY meant to offend.

[angel nympho]

My mom owns and manages a store. One of her employees told her to go back to China once. This guy was such a punk. Grr. My mom wouldn't let me go by his house and kick his ass. So I was going to find out what school he went to so I could fuck with him there, but I figured it's really no use. Not worth my time.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@May 19 2003, 01:53 PM
My mom owns and manages a store. One of her employees told her to go back to China once. This guy was such a punk. Grr. My mom wouldn't let me go by his house and kick his ass. So I was going to find out what school he went to so I could fuck with him there, but I figured it's really no use. Not worth my time.
some kid told me that in junior high once. i told him to stick his finger up his ass and spin.

[syc]

I really never experienced racism directed towards me till i left hong kong. but once i left i started to see that shit happening all around me, although it hasnt been as blatant as some of the other people here.

my worst experience was probably when i was in 10th grade. i hooked up with this girl and she gave me head, after i stopped talking to her she got pissed off and started calling me a chink.

[mr. x]

^--- wow, so that kinda negated the getting-the-head part huh

[Tao]

Originally posted by syc@May 19 2003, 02:04 PM
i hooked up with this girl and she gave me head, after i stopped talking to her she got pissed off and started calling me a chink.
oh boohoo, poor you :rolleyes:

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by syc@May 19 2003, 02:04 PM
my worst experience was probably when i was in 10th grade. i hooked up with this girl and she gave me head, after i stopped talking to her she got pissed off and started calling me a chink.
hey who cares. she gave you head.

[tvbdude]

another racist incident happened today. I was walking to the SSI office with my dad and sister. This black woman in front of us purposely pour the water in front of her therefore wanting us to step on it or something. I was about to call her a nigger but decided not to make it bigger. I hate these subliminal racists.

[speshllkay]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 20 2003, 08:52 PM
another racist incident happened today. I was walking to the SSI office with my dad and sister. This black woman in front of us purposely pour the water in front of her therefore wanting us to step on it or something. I was about to call her a nigger but decided not to make it bigger. I hate these subliminal racists.
Wow...you pulled the race card on that one.

Subliminal racist? You were the one who wanted to call her a nigger.

[sOKaLiBoY]

Originally posted by syc@May 19 2003, 11:04 AM
my worst experience was probably when i was in 10th grade. i hooked up with this girl and she gave me head, after i stopped talking to her she got pissed off and started calling me a chink.
lol in my mind it wouldn't matter what the hell she called you. you got what is important :lol:

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 21 2003, 04:52 AM
another racist incident happened today. I was walking to the SSI office with my dad and sister. This black woman in front of us purposely pour the water in front of her therefore wanting us to step on it or something. I was about to call her a nigger but decided not to make it bigger. I hate these subliminal racists.
What water? What are you talking about? Oh, fuckin' racist, she wanted you to step in water? I don't get it. Maybe I'd get it if I was there.

[tvbdude]

really, people do these small racial stuff. yea, you've got to be there to see how it went. I'm very sensitive to these things.

[tvbdude]

does anybody know what legal trouble I can get into if I called someone a racial slur?

[sOKaLiBoY]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 21 2003, 10:48 PM
does anybody know what legal trouble I can get into if I called someone a racial slur?
i know that you can get a misdemeanor for a racial slur. i think i also saw someone one time get charged with a felony. i think they said that his words were used as a part of a hate crime or something like that

[ChinaLama]

i didn't know it was a crime to use a racial slur. i thought it only increased the sentence for another crime that's committed, cuz then you could be prosecuted for a hate crime.

[tvbdude]

racial slur datebase (http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/slurs.htm)

[Faithless]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 23 2003, 11:06 PM
racial slur datebase (http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/slurs.htm)
Whoa!

My favorite: Dicksuckinflog, Dutch, 16th Century term for prostitutes accused of witchcraft.

[Fireblade]

Originally posted by tvbdude@May 24 2003, 12:06 AM
racial slur datebase (http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/slurs.htm)
Darn it! Someone beat me to it!

RSDB (http://rsdb.fuck.org/?2)

oh well... go fig.

[coagulated fat]

Aw, there wasn't one for my mix! ...so I put two together:
Yoko Muppet Fucker.

[tvbdude]

2 racist incidents happened today within 5 minutes of each other.

I was riding my bike and this water balloon exploded next to me. I looked up and it doesn't seem to come from above. So I left and go to the intersection. this lil spic was riding his bike in front of me and keep looking at me like he wants to fight. right then I knew he was a racist so I ignored him.

riding my bike next to a white dude. he was diddling the banzai themesong-turning japanese. I yelled at him to shut the fuck up. he didn't look back or say anything.

[tvbdude]

riding bike in front of UNO restaurant white dude says "what the hell" in chinese accent.

[Faithless]

<!--QuoteBegin-tvbdude+Jul 26 2003, 05:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvbdude @ Jul 26 2003, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 2I was riding my bike and this water balloon exploded next to me. [/b][/quote]
I remember an experience like that when I delivered newspapers as a kid. These guys in a car kept following me and chucking water balloons at me.&nbsp; I never did anything even though I knew one of the people in the car -- an oddball that liked to play with horses' balls.

Later in life, I had a chance to get even, but thought better of it.&nbsp; I wanted to pop the idiots tires.

Is it too late to crush his face with a round-house?

[AngryABCGirl]

<!--QuoteBegin-ChottoMatte+Jul 28 2003, 11:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChottoMatte @ Jul 28 2003, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I remember an experience like that when I delivered newspapers as a kid. These guys in a car kept following me and chucking water balloons at me. I never did anything even though I knew one of the people in the car -- an oddball that liked to play with horses' balls.

Later in life, I had a chance to get even, but thought better of it. I wanted to pop the idiots tires.

Is it too late to crush his face with a round-house? [/b][/quote]
You should carry a cheap-ass frame pump or some broken tubes or something, and chuck it at their asses.

[angel nympho]

<!--QuoteBegin-tvbdude+Jul 27 2003, 01:13 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvbdude @ Jul 27 2003, 01:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> right then I knew he was a racist so I ignored him. [/b][/quote]
How?&nbsp; Did he have one of those handy flashing neon signs?

What's a spic?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 29 2003, 05:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 29 2003, 05:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What's a spic? [/b][/quote]
Ironically a racial slur for Mexicans (or is it Hispanics in general?), comes from the stereotypical accented phrase 'no spic English'.

[Eros]

While not the worst, one of the ones that annoyed me the most is when I was walking past a guy at a bar.&nbsp; He looked at me and said "Konichiwa(sp?)."&nbsp; He looked buzzed and I was so annoyed that I just walked past.&nbsp; Wished I would have said "Guten tag" or "Nihao!&nbsp; I'm Chinese, asshole" back at him.

One that really annoys me but is so common (and I'm sure many hapas and some non-hapas haven't gotten this too many times) is:

Person:&nbsp; What are you?
Me:&nbsp; English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Swiss, and Chinese.
Person:&nbsp; Oh...&nbsp; Chinese.&nbsp; That explains it.

Oddly, one of my best friends used to accidently make a lot of racist remarks (because he had a habit of speaking before thinking).&nbsp; The two that stand out are...

Me:&nbsp; Almost half the time people think I look asian.&nbsp; If not, then generally they think I look white.&nbsp; A small few think I look latin.
Him:&nbsp; Oh, well I've known you for so long that you just look white to me.

Him:&nbsp; Was you mom a mail-order bride?
Me:&nbsp; Umm...&nbsp; no.&nbsp; Why?
Him:&nbsp; Well, I was just thinking that your dad is white and your mom is asian...
Me:&nbsp; Dude, my mom is from Panama.
(side note:&nbsp; My mom is asian in origin but was born and raised in Panama)

I have to admit, that last one made me laugh at him.&nbsp; ;)

[tvbdude]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How? Did he have one of those handy flashing neon signs?

What's a spic? [/b][/quote]
he's making eye contact with me

[The Oracle]

I had a guy spit in my face and call me every racial slur known for Asians...just because I was doing my job by asking them not to loiter. He said that he was a vet.
:angry:

[angel nympho]

<!--QuoteBegin-tvbdude+Jul 30 2003, 06:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvbdude @ Jul 30 2003, 06:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How? Did he have one of those handy flashing neon signs?

What's a spic? [/b][/quote]
he's making eye contact with me [/b][/quote]
Mexican dudes make eye contact with me all the time.&nbsp; OH SHIT I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE ALL DAMN RACISTS......................!!!!!!!!


...You seem to have an awful lot of racial experiences.&nbsp; More than anyone else who seems to have posted here.&nbsp; Shouldn't that tell you something....?&nbsp; Perhaps that maybe you POSSIBLY could have misconstrued something......?

[Chinkaholic]

Our neighbor threathened my mom and told her to watch her ass, while calling her a F*cking Korean. And she was just taking out the trash. *sigh*


but for me, i guess im used to the racist assholes. i don't really think about what they do anymore.

[Faithless]

<!--QuoteBegin-AzNBuffGrL+Jul 29 2003, 04:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AzNBuffGrL @ Jul 29 2003, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ChottoMatte+Jul 28 2003, 11:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChottoMatte @ Jul 28 2003, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I remember an experience like that when I delivered newspapers as a kid. These guys in a car kept following me and chucking water balloons at me. I never did anything even though I knew one of the people in the car -- an oddball that liked to play with horses' balls.

Later in life, I had a chance to get even, but thought better of it. I wanted to pop the idiots tires.

Is it too late to crush his face with a round-house? [/b][/quote]
You should carry a cheap-ass frame pump or some broken tubes or something, and chuck it at their asses. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, should have. Bugs me to this day that someone put-one-over me.

[Faithless]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chinkaholic+Jul 30 2003, 01:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chinkaholic @ Jul 30 2003, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Our neighbor threathened my mom and told her to watch her ass, while calling her a F*cking Korean. And she was just taking out the trash. *sigh*


but for me, i guess im used to the racist assholes. i don't really think about what they do anymore. [/b][/quote]
I can remember neighbors like that.

How they ever graduate from the trailer parks to houses is a mystery for Rippley's.&nbsp; :rolleyes:

[Redhawk]

In my state, people are racist. They'll shout racist slurs out their car windows.
One time in Columbus, a group of white guys called me a racial slur and stopped their car, and dared me to say something. I have since&nbsp; taken martial, and I dared them to come out and confront me. The midwest has its share of racist, just like the south. :angry:

I try to avoid fighting; I'm benevolent. However, people don't think I will fight back. There was times when I should have fought back. They tell you in martial arts to have control.

[YuheiCarreau]

<!--QuoteBegin-professor frink+Jul 30 2003, 08:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (professor frink @ Jul 30 2003, 08:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-YuheiCarreau+May 9 2003, 07:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YuheiCarreau @ May 9 2003, 07:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, but before it seeme as though you and a few others were making the case that, when Jap is used as a slur, it's a less offensive slur than "chink" or "gook". I agree that sometimes people jump all over that one word without examining the context it's in, but at the same time I don't think there's anything wrong with me being offended when my high school English teacher started talking about how such-and-such college had too many JAPs (Jewish American Princess, in this case).

But most Japanese people don't even know the history of the word Jap, nor do they know much if anything about the way JAs were treated during WW2, so who do you expect to get offended by it? The situation you described seemed like a case of crossed wires; your friend probably thought you didn't know that Jap was a slur and was trying to inform you of that fact. I agree that she jumped the gun a little... But like I said, for some people that word is so volatile it gets them all worked up before they have a chance to think about it.

I can see why you don't think it's a big deal, and I can see why your friend thought it was, but what I can't understand is why you think it was so wrong or stupid of her to make an honest mistake, and one that any self-respecting JA would make. Not everyone has the language skills, the time, the money, or even just the courage to live abroad and see how things are done in the rest of the world, and many AAs, having been raised in America, can only look at the word Jap in its American context - as a slur. When I went to the UK and people called me Oriental, I was pissed, but I figured out after a while that over there Asian means South Asian and Oriental means East Asian; but if I'd never left the US, and been called an Oriental by a British person, would you think I was being stupid if I was offended? By that logic, Japanese in Japan are stupid for not understanding the very demeaning effect that the word Jap has - since it was, after all, intended as a slur against Japanese people.

Why is it OK for people in HK to use Jap as a neutral abbreviation while ignorant of its more offensive definition, but stupid for a JA to think it's only a negative word, and not just an abbreviation? What's the difference? [/b][/quote]
WORD!!! so many thanks yuhei-carreau - can i have your babies?

love,
prof. frink :luv: [/b][/quote]
Hmm, I don't even remember writing that... I guess I used to be smart!

I think I'll try to work that into my editorial about the Yellowface pic in my school magazine.

PS - you can have my babies when I finally track them all down.

[mr. x]

man california really is a different country, and only a part of it too, i mean ever time i leave these heavy asian population areas i get paranoid every white persons gonna do that "go back to viet cong" shit

weird though, i havent really been through anything like this

[Tao]

<!--QuoteBegin-mr. x+Jul 30 2003, 09:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mr. x @ Jul 30 2003, 09:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> man california really is a different country, and only a part of it too, i mean ever time i leave these heavy asian population areas i get paranoid every white persons gonna do that "go back to viet cong" shit

weird though, i havent really been through anything like this [/b][/quote]
word! man. seriously, when I visited cali a couple of weeks back, I felt really uncomfortable touring the rich, all white areas of san diego. it was quite uncomfortable.

[Chinese Tourist]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 30 2003, 02:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 30 2003, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-tvbdude+Jul 30 2003, 06:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvbdude @ Jul 30 2003, 06:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How? Did he have one of those handy flashing neon signs?

What's a spic? [/b][/quote]
he's making eye contact with me [/b][/quote]
Mexican dudes make eye contact with me all the time. OH SHIT I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE ALL DAMN RACISTS......................!!!!!!!!


...You seem to have an awful lot of racial experiences. More than anyone else who seems to have posted here. Shouldn't that tell you something....? Perhaps that maybe you POSSIBLY could have misconstrued something......? [/b][/quote]
no, guys != girls

[Chinese Tourist]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chinkaholic+Jul 30 2003, 03:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chinkaholic @ Jul 30 2003, 03:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Our neighbor threathened my mom and told her to watch her ass, while calling her a F*cking Korean. And she was just taking out the trash. *sigh*


but for me, i guess im used to the racist assholes. i don't really think about what they do anymore. [/b][/quote]
piss her off
play jokes on her

[Chinese Tourist]

<!--QuoteBegin-ChottoMatte+Jul 30 2003, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChottoMatte @ Jul 30 2003, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-AzNBuffGrL+Jul 29 2003, 04:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AzNBuffGrL @ Jul 29 2003, 04:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ChottoMatte+Jul 28 2003, 11:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ChottoMatte @ Jul 28 2003, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I remember an experience like that when I delivered newspapers as a kid. These guys in a car kept following me and chucking water balloons at me. I never did anything even though I knew one of the people in the car -- an oddball that liked to play with horses' balls.

Later in life, I had a chance to get even, but thought better of it. I wanted to pop the idiots tires.

Is it too late to crush his face with a round-house? [/b][/quote]
You should carry a cheap-ass frame pump or some broken tubes or something, and chuck it at their asses. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, should have. Bugs me to this day that someone put-one-over me. [/b][/quote]
bugs me, too.

















:lol:

[tvbdude]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 30 2003, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 30 2003, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-tvbdude+Jul 30 2003, 06:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvbdude @ Jul 30 2003, 06:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 29 2003, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How? Did he have one of those handy flashing neon signs?

What's a spic? [/b][/quote]
he's making eye contact with me [/b][/quote]
Mexican dudes make eye contact with me all the time. OH SHIT I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE ALL DAMN RACISTS......................!!!!!!!!


...You seem to have an awful lot of racial experiences. More than anyone else who seems to have posted here. Shouldn't that tell you something....? Perhaps that maybe you POSSIBLY could have misconstrued something......? [/b][/quote]
shut up ok. you're not there. you seem to always help races other than yours

[angel nympho]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhkay.&nbsp;

[golden_buns]

<!--QuoteBegin-tvbdude+Jul 30 2003, 08:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tvbdude @ Jul 30 2003, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> shut up ok. you're not there. you seem to always help races other than yours [/b][/quote]
What the hell are you talking about? she defends her own.

she's white

[angel nympho]

All I'm saying is that maybe your attitude has something to do with why you get hated on so much.

[angel nympho]

And you guys all swear Asians aren't racist either??&nbsp; Shit, I'm apparently not Asian enough to talk to any of you.

[Tao]

damn people, shimmer down. someone needs to close this thread or something. getting a bit pointless.

[golden_buns]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 31 2003, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 31 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And you guys all swear Asians aren't racist either? [/b][/quote]
So because asians can be racist too then it's ok for others to step on us?
And what does that have to do with what tvbdude said?

[angel nympho]

<!--QuoteBegin-golden_buns+Aug 1 2003, 01:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (golden_buns @ Aug 1 2003, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So because asians can be racist too then it's ok for others to step on us?
And what does that have to do with what tvbdude said? [/b][/quote]
I didn't step on anyone. I jsut think it's retarded to assume someone's racist because they look at you wrong.&nbsp; And it doesnt have anything to do with what tvbdude said.&nbsp; It has to do with what you said.

[golden_buns]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 31 2003, 05:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 31 2003, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I didn't step on anyone. I jsut think it's retarded to assume someone's racist because they look at you wrong. And it doesnt have anything to do with what tvbdude said. It has to do with what you said. [/b][/quote]
no, you didn't step on anyone. I was talking about when other ethnicities step on asians, on many occasions you've been you're the first one to jump and take their side. Hey in the case of TVbdude we both weren't there to see what really happen, so who are you to say that it wasn't racism at all? (I'm not saying that it was or wasnt)
I've heard that; "oh we asians are racist" many times from you. But because of the fact that there's racism among us does that not give us the right to complain about racism from others?

[angel nympho]

<!--QuoteBegin-golden_buns+Aug 1 2003, 01:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (golden_buns @ Aug 1 2003, 01:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no, you didn't step on anyone. I was talking about when other ethnicities step on asians, on many occasions you've been you're the first one to jump and take their side. Hey in the case of TVbdude we both weren't there to see what really happen, so who are you to say that it wasn't racism at all? (I'm not saying that it was or wasnt)
I've heard that; "oh we asians are racist" many times from you. But because of the fact that there's racism among us does that not give us the right to complain about racism from others? [/b][/quote]
The fact that there's racism among so many of you makes it hypocritical to think racism is so wrong when it happens to you. Before you can stop anybody else from being racist, you should try to stop yourselves.

And I never said it was okay for somebody to be racist against Asians.&nbsp; I really doubt you've seen me jump on the other side all that many times.&nbsp; Apparently the consensus is that I don't particularly give half a rats ass enough to choose a side.&nbsp; Sometimes I just think people are being a little immature.

[golden_buns]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 31 2003, 05:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 31 2003, 05:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The fact that there's racism among so many of you makes it hypocritical to think racism is so wrong when it happens to you. Before you can stop anybody else from being racist, you should try to stop yourselves. [/b][/quote]
So basically with that statement you believe that all African Americans aren't racist.
And what are we gonna get when some of the racist asians stop being racist? are the racist non-asians gonna stop being racist towards us?

[angel nympho]

I never said anything about African Americans. Sorry, I mis worded what I meant to say earlier. I think it's hypocritical when you condemn racism so much, but you go around being racist yourselves. For example, earlier, tvbdude's story about the Mexican guy... who was more racist? The mexican guy who looked at him like he wanted to fight, but didn't seem to say anything racist to him... or he, who came on a message board and called the guy a spic?&nbsp; That's what bothered me.

[golden_buns]

<!--QuoteBegin-angel nympho+Jul 31 2003, 05:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (angel nympho @ Jul 31 2003, 05:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I never said anything about African Americans. Sorry, I mis worded what I meant to say earlier. I think it's hypocritical when you condemn racism so much, but you go around being racist yourselves. For example, earlier, tvbdude's story about the Mexican guy... who was more racist? The mexican guy who looked at him like he wanted to fight, but didn't seem to say anything racist to him... or he, who came on a message board and called the guy a spic? That's what bothered me. [/b][/quote]
Hypocritical or not, not ALL asians are racist so its uncalled for to say that they do not have the right to claim for their rights because some other asians are racist.

In this case you should have told tvbdude that calling that mexican guy a spic was wrong and hypocritical, but by reading some other comments that you've posted you seem to generalize asian-americans as being racist and therefore hypocritical.

[angel nympho]

<!--QuoteBegin-golden_buns+Aug 1 2003, 01:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (golden_buns @ Aug 1 2003, 01:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hypocritical or not, not ALL asians are racist so its uncalled for to say that they do not have the right to claim for their rights because some other asians are racist.

In this case you should have told tvbdude that calling that mexican guy a spic was wrong and hypocritical, but by reading some other comments that you've posted you seem to generalize asian-americans as being racist and therefore hypocritical. [/b][/quote]
I didn't say they don't have a right to claim their rights. I just think that people shouldn't jump to conclusions. You don't have a right to call someone a racist when they're not one.&nbsp; I guess I was a little mean for giving the guy shit. But seriously, I was really bothered because it was totally hypocritical and I can't stand it when people are so unconvinced that they are doing anything fucked up at all. But hell, after reading a lot of your comments, I got the idea that you seem to jump to conclusions about me, too. *Shrug* I didn't mean to generalize all Asian Americans as racist and hypocritical. I just mean that it's fucked up to think that all Asians are above being racist. And I really get the feeling that most of you think I'm not Asian enough to even talk to any of you. So are we done now?


PS sorry if what I said misled you. but whatever, a lot of what you and other people say misleads me. i'm over it.

[mr. x]

well lighten up guys, i think (and im not "rushing" to her "defense) what nympho was trying to say was you mightve misconstrued their gestures or looks or whatever as much ado about nothing

[angel nympho]

Okay, here's my final thought:

I think a majority of people in the world are not racist. But I do think that some people may get uncomfortable around people of other races. Therefore, we should learn to let things go when they're not being oppressive. Dumb things like.... the guy in the post office who's curt to you, the guy walking down the street who gives you a dirty look, or the dude in the car in the next lane who flips you the bird... that's all ambiguous. Who knows if they were racially motivated or not.... and in the long run, this kind of shit, while it might be annoying, isn't going to stop you from doing anything you want... unless you let it really get into your head. So just rise above the bullshit and give people the benefit of the doubt. ...If that means you're "rushing to the defense" of people who aren't the same skin color as you... then so fucking be it. Just because you're a minority doesn't give you the priveledge to pull the race card on anything that juuuuust might be percieved as racist. For all you know, you might have accidently bumped that guy on the street with your elbow to provoke a dirty look, you might have inadvertently sneezed on the lady walking near you who makes some nasty remark at you.... that guy in the car might be on his way to the hospital to see his dying brother... you never know what's going on with people around you. So just don't bother trying to figure them out.&nbsp; And turning around and participating in the action is probably close to the most barbaric and ridiculous things you can do.&nbsp; First of all, that doesn't make you any better or cooler than the other person.&nbsp; Second of all, it's a waste of time.
But when something seriously isn't right. When some greater power is working against you, and when your civil rights are being violated.... BY ALL MEANS do something about it. But a dirty look, though disrespectful and really really mean, does nothing to step on your rights as a human being.



I'm done.

[ChairmanMah]

experiences with racism?? too many to name but there was some bloodshed i unleashed on someone that ended in police arriving, friends that don't act like friends at times, and basically what everyone else here said that they had experienced.

as a result i get of bitter at times cuz of mental scarring.

no one has gone through what i've gone thru. I've heard a lot of shit that i'm glad i didn't have a gun during those times cuz i'd be in jail now.

Actually, if i had a gun now, i still kinda want one, i'd probly kill someone.

oh yeah, and the regular, eggs thrown at my house, rocks through the windows.

[Faithless]

<!--QuoteBegin-Tao+Jul 31 2003, 05:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tao @ Jul 31 2003, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> damn people, shimmer down. someone needs to close this thread or something. getting a bit pointless. [/b][/quote]
It gets pointless, when someone takes it off track.