So what really goes on during greek life at college?

[CrX3183]

Does anyone care to tell me what really happens when u rush or go through hell week? What happens after u make it or what do u do next?

[deez nuts]

CrX, I know frats when I went to college were pretty secretive about the hazing process. To the best of my knowledge, once you make it through the hazing process, you're in the frat and generally given a "big brother" to show you the ropes. And introduce you to the women!

[princess]

is it true that hazing was made illegal on a lot of college campuses?

[CrX3183]

Why do the frats want to be so secretive about it all? Shouldn't u want to exploit all the crap u went through and prove u can handle it or something? Well there's no worse hazing then the marine corps.

[CrX3183]

fine people be all secretive then, :?

[Arex]

No need to get all frusrated...perhaps no active forum members ever went through the greek system. I sure as hell didn't.


RX

[CrX3183]

I know kasia did, but she won't ever tell me. She's like sworn to secrecy :?

[Arex]

Really? Well that's not so cool... Why do you ask anyway? I thought you were going the armed forces route..?

RX

[wylin]

well from uci i learned that people did these things in hazing.

1. put a donut on ur penis w/ a room fulla guyz sitting next to each other watching gay porn who ever got a hard on, his buddies gotta eat the donut off.
2. salt biscuits
3. the brick on ur dick blind folded up on a roof...leap of faith.
4. grab sumones balls or run 5 miles ur choice

ah the joy of asian frats

[CrX3183]

I am, but i just wondered what really went on at frats...

[CrX3183]

[quote:4861e04d9c="wylin"]well from uci i learned that people did these things in hazing.

1. put a donut on ur penis w/ a room fulla guyz sitting next to each other watching gay porn who ever got a hard on, his buddies gotta eat the donut off.
2. salt biscuits
3. the brick on ur dick blind folded up on a roof...leap of faith.
4. grab sumones balls or run 5 miles ur choice

ah the joy of asian frats[/quote:4861e04d9c]

Man that's just nasty, i found out what a salt biscuit was yesterday at nick's grad party... 8O

[bigwong235]

would you like a chocolate covered pretzel? 8O

[CrX3183]

[quote:0ee51584c4="bigwong235"]would you like a chocolate covered pretzel? 8O[/quote:0ee51584c4]
What's that?

[wylin]

[quote:defa1ed431="CrX3183"][quote:defa1ed431="bigwong235"]would you like a chocolate covered pretzel? 8O[/quote:defa1ed431]
What's that?[/quote:defa1ed431]

poop covered prezels

[CrX3183]

Thats disgusting 8O

[Green_Jade]

I'm a greek, though a non-traditional greek... I'm part of a co-ed (yep, there are boys and girls..) honor fraternity. We are stricly anti-hazing... our rush process was socials, community services..and other fraternity related events so the rushees could get to know the brothers... After rush, you are givin a bid, and at that time, you can decide to continue on to candidate period, in which you learn more in depth about the fraternity..history, constitution..ect. We actually have a national test we need to take and get a certain score on to be allowed into the fraternity.... though you can still be rejected even if you pass the test... we vote on rushees and again after they go through their candidate period.

In many ways, we are similar to the social greeks, the general system of greeks are all similar,..chapter, national, regional offices... process of getting in.. though we dont live in a house together, that is something that is discouraged, b/c it'll over emphasize the social aspect..we consider ourselves 1/3 social, 1/3 service, and 1/3 honor fraternity..(nope, not a society, they dont really do anything together)

I used to be compeletly anti-greek until I joined,...now I can understand them a little better though I still dont approve of them...but I can't be totally against the social greeks, I am, regardless of the type of greek I am, regraded as a greek (by friends,..students in general..oh look, she's wearing letters...so are all thoese guys AND girls *confused looks on people's faces*), so gotta make some effort to try to get along.

woah,..long post... heh, anyways, no one REALLY knows what goes on with them social frats,... someone i used to be good friends with was in one and i never found out all the truths about the rumors..hmmp!

[kasia]

[quote:9455576a38="artzygrrl"]I'm a greek, though a non-traditional greek... I'm part of a co-ed (yep, there are boys and girls..) honor fraternity. We are stricly anti-hazing... our rush process was socials, community services..and other fraternity related events so the rushees could get to know the brothers... After rush, you are givin a bid, and at that time, you can decide to continue on to candidate period, in which you learn more in depth about the fraternity..history, constitution..ect. We actually have a national test we need to take and get a certain score on to be allowed into the fraternity.... though you can still be rejected even if you pass the test... we vote on rushees and again after they go through their candidate period.

In many ways, we are similar to the social greeks, the general system of greeks are all similar,..chapter, national, regional offices... process of getting in.. though we dont live in a house together, that is something that is discouraged, b/c it'll over emphasize the social aspect..we consider ourselves 1/3 social, 1/3 service, and 1/3 honor fraternity..(nope, not a society, they dont really do anything together)

I used to be compeletly anti-greek until I joined,...now I can understand them a little better though I still dont approve of them...but I can't be totally against the social greeks, I am, regardless of the type of greek I am, regraded as a greek (by friends,..students in general..oh look, she's wearing letters...so are all thoese guys AND girls *confused looks on people's faces*), so gotta make some effort to try to get along.

woah,..long post... heh, anyways, no one REALLY knows what goes on with them social frats,... someone i used to be good friends with was in one and i never found out all the truths about the rumors..hmmp![/quote:9455576a38]

alpha phi omega?

[SunWuKong]

[quote:46139d8d6c="kasia"]
alpha phi omega?[/quote:46139d8d6c]


A Phi O were the ultra-geeks at my school. i went to a pretty geeky school as it was. the people in A Phi O were geeks of geeks. but it's all cool, everybody had this "yeah we're social failures and we like it" attitude.

[kasia]

[quote:bb4dd69931="SunWuKung"][quote:bb4dd69931="kasia"]
alpha phi omega?[/quote:bb4dd69931]


A Phi O were the ultra-geeks at my school. i went to a pretty geeky school as it was. the people in A Phi O were geeks of geeks. but it's all cool, everybody had this "yeah we're social failures and we like it" attitude.[/quote:bb4dd69931]

that's not cool! you just called her frat a geek-frat.

[SunWuKong]

[quote:f9a11ad735="kasia"][quote:f9a11ad735="SunWuKung"][quote:f9a11ad735="kasia"]
alpha phi omega?[/quote:f9a11ad735]


A Phi O were the ultra-geeks at my school. i went to a pretty geeky school as it was. the people in A Phi O were geeks of geeks. but it's all cool, everybody had this "yeah we're social failures and we like it" attitude.[/quote:f9a11ad735]

that's not cool! you just called her frat a geek-frat.[/quote:f9a11ad735]


hey i said they're uber-geeks at my school, that doesn't mean they're geeky at her school.

[Green_Jade]

nope.. not APO, they are all community service... mine isn't.

my school has APO, they are small, weak... almost non-existant.. I never see them around. But than again, there is a sorority that has 2 memebers at my school. haha.

there are whole lotta non-traditional greeks than people know about... my school alone has at least 15.

[Green_Jade]

you'll never guess what mine is hehue.. even though we have 95 chapters nationally. NY only has 3... :(

[wylin]

is it me but most frat people were dorks in High school and join a fraternity to be cool now in college, atleast kewl in their small greek or Asian Greek Councel (AGC). ?

yeh most of the ppl i knew who join frats in UCI were orginally dorks, or wannabe gangsters or both. Now their big men on our 15000 person campus all 1000 total of them.

[Green_Jade]

So, do you really know anyone in a fraternity or are you just making this judgement based on knowing these people from a distance? I didn't join to be cool in college, I joined because I wanted to be more involved with the campus besides people in my own school/major. The fraternity has allowed me to meet all kind of different majors...we are one of the most diverse group on campus..on so many levels. Ethinicity and Deaf/Hearing,.age. Yes, there are fraternities/chapters in any fraternity that are very narrowly oriented in terms of the type of people join, but not my fraternity at my school.

hmm... no matter how much you think you know, you don't really, unless you become involved, or have a friend that'll explain in intimate details what it's really like. Like I said before, I used to be anti-greek, until I was able to understand some of the things they do from being a greek.

So what are you trying to achieve here, by posting what you posted? oh..!!! lets bash all the greeks? They are dorks~..so because you aren't a greek that makes you not a dork, i guess.



[quote:7652a2a728="wylin"]is it me but most frat people were dorks in High school and join a fraternity to be cool now in college, atleast kewl in their small greek or Asian Greek Councel (AGC). ?

yeh most of the ppl i knew who join frats in UCI were orginally dorks, or wannabe gangsters or both. Now their big men on our 15000 person campus all 1000 total of them.[/quote:7652a2a728]

[wylin]

[quote:cf85fa19d9="artzygrrl"]So, do you really know anyone in a fraternity or are you just making this judgement based on knowing these people from a distance? I didn't join to be cool in college, I joined because I wanted to be more involved with the campus besides people in my own school/major. The fraternity has allowed me to meet all kind of different majors...we are one of the most diverse group on campus..on so many levels. Ethinicity and Deaf/Hearing,.age. Yes, there are fraternities/chapters in any fraternity that are very narrowly oriented in terms of the type of people join, but not my fraternity at my school.

hmm... no matter how much you think you know, you don't really, unless you become involved, or have a friend that'll explain in intimate details what it's really like. Like I said before, I used to be anti-greek, until I was able to understand some of the things they do from being a greek.

So what are you trying to achieve here, by posting what you posted? oh..!!! lets bash all the greeks? They are dorks~..so because you aren't a greek that makes you not a dork, i guess.



[quote:cf85fa19d9="wylin"]is it me but most frat people were dorks in High school and join a fraternity to be cool now in college, atleast kewl in their small greek or Asian Greek Councel (AGC). ?

yeh most of the ppl i knew who join frats in UCI were orginally dorks, or wannabe gangsters or both. Now their big men on our 15000 person campus all 1000 total of them.[/quote:cf85fa19d9][/quote:cf85fa19d9]

lol, funny response.

nehows, yah i had alota friends in the greek system when i went to uci. i went to events of various fraternites, because i was buddies w/ them. Lets see kappa sigma parties, used to study in the Alpha Phi sorority house w/ my friends in the sorority, one of my friends was president one year of Lambda Theta Delta the largest frat/ ACG frat on campus, another of Ph Sigma, random Lambda Phi Epsilon, Pineapple, SAE, KE, and LTD friends...friends in random sorites. etc.

ya i been explained alot, hazing rights, initiations, education, the whole history of a few of the fraternites and sororities, rushing/ black balling/ pledging/ hell night, the internal conflicts. I think i have a firm grasp of the whole thing. That includes the uni-sex buisness fraternities...i have a few friends who told me bout that and their experience founding and also being pledged to a buisness or traditional fraternity.

I turned down bidsfrom different fraternities b4 just because i feel like the greek system just aint for me, seems to gang like, dogmatic, and shortlived cuz u never keep in touch w/ all ur bros and sis's after college nehows. If u wanna join sum secret society join like Free Masons, Elks, or sumthing...

This is Just my personal experience is that man they were dorks before and sum then/now think their big men/womencampus...even tho the greek system is pretty weak in UCI. This is pretty much the attitude of alota ppl in my old skool.

the point of my comment was to be funny and make light on why they haze each other so much for acceptance not to hear sum dogmatic response from you, thats another peeve of mine. Why does everyone have to defend the greek system like it was sum relgion, thats brainwashing for u. I been engaged w/ a big debate over the education and pledgeship indoctrination of my friends Kappa Sig pledges (my friends pledge edcuator) and how and why they do certain things. Too much dogma i been telling him, cuz dude its not a religion... next thing u know ur gonna be running at me w/ a flaming exploding mascot or sumthing =P

sumtimes i think people involved w/ the greek system need to just chill not show so much flaming gusto/ greeks are #1 dogma, and realize theres both positive and NEGATIVE aspects to joining an organization like that. Just like joining a gang...benifits and resposibilities and falacies w/ in the system itself.

or worse hazing like the korean club did at uci =X

[SunWuKong]

[quote:232ad20a0f="wylin"]is it me but most frat people were dorks in High school and join a fraternity to be cool now in college, atleast kewl in their small greek or Asian Greek Councel (AGC). ?

yeh most of the ppl i knew who join frats in UCI were orginally dorks, or wannabe gangsters or both. Now their big men on our 15000 person campus all 1000 total of them.[/quote:232ad20a0f]


perhaps that is just the case at UCI?

[wylin]

maybe. uci is a weird place mrazntre can attest too. but i think the underlying need to fit in and be popular comes w/ the fraternity experience.

[Green_Jade]

Maybe we defend ourselves because so many people just plain think greeks are bad, period.. Regardless of the type..ect. FYI, we do not haze...

Having greek letters for our name doesnt automatically mean oh, we haze. Did I say I am for hazing, hack no... I dont understand why anyone would go through that stuff to become a brother and get the brotherhood. It can be done without all the abuse and bs.

My fraternity actually asks a rushee to leave if she or he shows up at a party a member happenes to be even just one, because that could potentially be considered hazing. I'm still in touch with many of the graduated memebers, and others do the same. We have alumni networks and chapters... At my school, we are not the so called big man on campus. The social greeks hate us because apparently, we make them look bad...(i say they stop begging for moeny for the "poor" on campus than..)

If you are against greek fine, say whatever, but I can also say my own opnion defending what I believe. I'm just emphasizing the point, not all greeks are the same, many have changed,..though, many more still continue on with their "traditions"

[wylin]

[quote:200c72f0c3="artzygrrl"]Maybe we defend ourselves because so many people just plain think greeks are bad, period.. Regardless of the type..ect. FYI, we do not haze...

Having greek letters for our name doesnt automatically mean oh, we haze. Did I say I am for hazing, hack no... I dont understand why anyone would go through that stuff to become a brother and get the brotherhood. It can be done without all the abuse and bs.

My fraternity actually asks a rushee to leave if she or he shows up at a party a member happenes to be even just one, because that could potentially be considered hazing. I'm still in touch with many of the graduated memebers, and others do the same. We have alumni networks and chapters... At my school, we are not the so called big man on campus. The social greeks hate us because apparently, we make them look bad...(i say they stop begging for moeny for the "poor" on campus than..)

If you are against greek fine, say whatever, but I can also say my own opnion defending what I believe. I'm just emphasizing the point, not all greeks are the same, many have changed,..though, many more still continue on with their "traditions"[/quote:200c72f0c3]

i dont count buisness fraternities. cuz they're kinda different. more of a buisness network versus a social thing. social ones especially are known to haze...especially asian ones.

i like greeks fine enuff. Actually im pro hazing non-sexual because it does creat brotherhood thru adversity and tribulations.

[Green_Jade]

niether do i, they are a line in the resume,... they dont do anything as a group.
Brotherhood can be acheived with out hazing.. I'd know.

[quote:c5aca888c1]

i dont count buisness fraternities. cuz they're kinda different. more of a buisness network versus a social thing. social ones especially are known to haze...especially asian ones.

i like greeks fine enuff. Actually im pro hazing non-sexual because it does creat brotherhood thru adversity and tribulations.[/quote:c5aca888c1]

[kasia]

[quote:c43137df5d="artzygrrl"]niether do i, they are a line in the resume,... they dont do anything as a group.
Brotherhood can be acheived with out hazing.. I'd know.

[quote:c43137df5d]

i dont count buisness fraternities. cuz they're kinda different. more of a buisness network versus a social thing. social ones especially are known to haze...especially asian ones.

i like greeks fine enuff. Actually im pro hazing non-sexual because it does creat brotherhood thru adversity and tribulations.[/quote:c43137df5d][/quote:c43137df5d]

no way. the delta sigs (delta sigma pi) at davis were pretty tight. i lived with four of them. hardly just a resume filler. besides, they're pretty selective.

[Green_Jade]

sorry..ones at my school are. people even joined mine thinking that, they eventually left or were kicked out for missing many requirements for months...(some were mia for a year...)