yw on a mac.

[himura-dono]

this is the first time i've accessed yw on a mac. it looks like garbage :ph34r:

the mac is at fault, not the coding. certain aspects of the yw board are fuzzy or not nearly as clear as a pc. now, i don't know if this is because the g4 i'm using has no vid card and is chipset only, or if vid cards made for macs are paramount to crap.

this makes me wonder how awful gaming on this thing would be. and as much as i like apples cinema display, their flat screen monitors that don't cut you're left and right testes along with your legs are crap to. there's visible speed blurs. i don't even see speed blurs on old school vga monitors for pcs except from the pentium 1 era and earlier stuff.

this is not really meant to be a mac bash so much as an observation and boredom and being in the lab where the tapes i need to watch for class are.

apple...stop making computers and start focusing on stuff like your software, peripherals and media. pc users will generally give apple kudo's for stuff like their 23" cinema display, high quality dvd-rw media, and of course the ipod.

[applehead]

yw looks good on mine.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

i like the i mac colors and stuff...everyone seems to be buying into this pastel transparent color configuration

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by applehead@Mar 9 2003, 10:28 PM
yw looks good on mine.
you haven't seen it on a semi decent pc then :P

[Hanuman]

I have both a PC and a Mac and YW looks good on both of them. I'm using Mac OS 10.2 and their safari browser and so far, so good. The only glitches I've seen on the browser (hey it's their beta, so I'm not too surprised) is that when you mouse over the topic, it doesn't tell you when it was started, like on IE. Also the qoutes function is a little off on the Safari.

[yoMAMA]

Are you on Safari?

That's one slick browser! :D

[himura-dono]

i think the school's macs (in the lab i was using) was using were running the last vversion of 9 before osx was finalized.

however, the os does not control the color output and whatnot. this was clearly the monitors or vid card (or lack there of). i know you mac addicts will say i'm just being a pc zealot, but in my opinion, as far as hardware goes, it seems about as efficient as an all in one mobo based computer from 2 cpu generations back.

[cmar]

What's with the Mac-bashing? Apple has always been the superior product and continues to lead the industry. I use both at home and work, and believe me, there is no comparison for overall computing experience. I could go into a million reasons why Mac is better, but if people want cheaper, inferior products that is no business of mine. Next you'll be trying to convince us that hamburger is better than filet mignon. ;)

Oh, and YW looks fine on both.

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by cmar@Mar 10 2003, 10:05 AM
What's with the Mac-bashing? Apple has always been the superior product and continues to lead the industry. I use both at home and work, and believe me, there is no comparison for overall computing experience. I could go into a million reasons why Mac is better, but if people want cheaper, inferior products that is no business of mine. Next you'll be trying to convince us that hamburger is better than filet mignon. ;)

Oh, and YW looks fine on both.
dude, maybe read all the posts before you assume it's a mac bash. i'm only giving my honest opinion of that single g4 i was forced to use for that night.

if apple is leading the industry i'd like you to explain how the mac loses against competition that uses dual cpu's. mac's since g3 on have used dual if i'm correct and currently have no prayer against a dual amd or intel machine.

if you compare a g4 to say a uni processor system, gee, i wonder why it may do better (duh). *rolls eyes* maybe macs used to be quality, but in my opinion jobs is purposely trying to make the mac owner groups much more elitist as more mac users are cut from the flock.

pc's aren't cheap inferior parts next to macs. for the prices you pay for a mac, you can put an unbelievably good system together, and STILL have cash left to blow on aesthetics.

now THAT my friend, is an honest look at apple and does include a complimentary mac bash.

[kitty]

not getting into the techno babble, i've noticed that yw looks pretty crappy on most older browsers, including mac... i've had to scroll over to the side to read text, had the css styles not work, blah blah blah... so i hear ya himura.

[thaite]

Looks fine on mine.

Why don't you upgrade that mac to the most recent software. OS9 is over two years old now. I don't see how you can complain about the state of the modern mac when you're using old software.

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by thaite@Mar 10 2003, 11:42 AM
Looks fine on mine.

Why don't you upgrade that mac to the most recent software. OS9 is over two years old now. I don't see how you can complain about the state of the modern mac when you're using old software.
lol. the mac isn't mine. it's UCD's. i own a perfectly superior dual amd monster. ^_^ it'd eat that g4 and spit it's pretty shell out.

[achtungbaby]

Just when you thought the site was finally gonna be stable...

...i'm fiddling with things again:)

But to give me a better idea of what to do with what I'm working on now -- what is it of the current site thta looks bad, specifically?

[himura-dono]

nothing particular. as i said i think it had more to do with the hardware than anything else. the shader on the mac's system made everything very sharp and stark while on pc's it's not blindingly yellow. as i said before, for all i know, it was specifically that g4 having problems or something. i really think it was either the graphics card or the monitor. i even checked the brightness on the monitor and realized i could either have yw be black, the wierdness i was seeing, or uber white where the yellow barely looks like a color.

[yoMAMA]

Well, the Macs in my school's computer labs are all running OSX, which is one nice OS.

After using that for a while, I just don't know how the hell I can even go back to a PC anymore :nerd:

[Focker]

THANK YOU. MACS rule. After Jaguar, that's all i use now. I even switched. Have you seen the new YAO MING and MINIME commerical?? CLASSIC

[ren28]

I can't stand Macs because of Mac users that try to "convert" people, lack of cutting edge software, cost, lack of flexibility and because there are far more good programs for PC.

[thaite]

I could care less if a PC user doesn't want to use a Mac, but I will say that their viewpoint is usually based on some impression they made when they used one 6 years ago somewhere using early hardware and OS 7.

Lacks cutting edge software? Lacks flexibility? You're either kidding or just don't know.

[Hanuman]

Originally posted by yoMAMA@Mar 10 2003, 10:57 AM
Are you on Safari?

That's one slick browser! :D
Dude and this is just the beta, I can't wait until they get the finished product out. I use this as my primary browser now. One other annoying thing I've noticed about Safari is that it doesn't work well with AOL mail. That's fine though, cause I'm about to dump AOL anyway. I only kept them so long cause that was my first email account and it's still going after like 7 years, seems like such a shame to lose the addy now.

[Focker]

Originally posted by ren28@Mar 11 2003, 08:06 PM
I can't stand Macs because of Mac users that try to "convert" people, lack of cutting edge software, cost, lack of flexibility and because there are far more good programs for PC.
"cutting edge software"???? where do you think MSN/Windows got its ideas from (other than Xerox).

Mac users are a bit crazy, its only cause we're always right and everyone else is wrong.

[cmar]

I've never tried to convert anyone. I just show them what my Mac can do and they convert themselves.

[ren28]

Originally posted by thaite@Mar 11 2003, 06:03 PM
I could care less if a PC user doesn't want to use a Mac, but I will say that their viewpoint is usually based on some impression they made when they used one 6 years ago somewhere using early hardware and OS 7.

Lacks cutting edge software? Lacks flexibility? You're either kidding or just don't know.
Not really. You probably have no idea how flexible PC's are in terms of how much useful software there is out there, not including the freeware and shareware. I can download something I need by finding it on Google while a Mac user... good luck. I gave up before OSX because I got things done faster on the PC. It's a joke to even think there is more software out there for Mac. By cutting edge, I meant software usually comes out first for the PC. There is a very simple reason for this: there is a larger market for PC.

[ren28]

Originally posted by Focker@Mar 12 2003, 11:57 AM
"cutting edge software"???? where do you think MSN/Windows got its ideas from (other than Xerox).

Mac users are a bit crazy, its only cause we're always right and everyone else is wrong.
That's the age-old useless argument that some Mac users always come back to. I was not talking about Windows. I'm talking PC. The evil M$ empire is just part of the game that allows people to use more software.

[ren28]

Oops, this is becoming a PC vs Mac attack. :blink:

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by cmar@Mar 12 2003, 12:04 PM
I've never tried to convert anyone. I just show them what my Mac can do and they convert themselves.
wow, i do the same thing with pcs...

23 mac users pulled away and counting.

[Focker]

Originally posted by himura-dono@Mar 12 2003, 05:49 PM
wow, i do the same thing with pcs...

23 mac users pulled away and counting.
riggghhttt. Obviously, you've been brainwashed.

[himura-dono]

no, i show them side comparison of their apple (these were g4 owners mostly) to my dually. the difference in performance allowed them to make their choice. i'd say out of 50+ people i've tried, only those 23 have converted so far. many really do prefer the simplicity of their macs. some feel bound by their macs and want to be free and have more control. people make their own choices, just like pc owners choose between amd and intel. i never intended this to start out as a mac bash, but after cmar opened his piehole to assume it was, it became one.

i think macs have their purposes, and so do pc's. for me, pc's are more versatile for my uses and have more benefits over a mac. so i went the pc route.

so, you messing wit me, focker? <_<

[angelwiththesword]

macs may be excellent for graphics and video and animation, but certain sites are optimized for certain browsers and certain systems.
YW, for example, is prolly optimized for Internet Explorer 4.X and beyond. on a PC Windows 9x-XP.
netscape would prolly kill the site just as fast as a mac would.

[angelwiththesword]

PC's RULE!

DOWN WITH MACS! DOWN WITH MACS! DOWN WITH MACS!

[ren28]

I use Netscape for YW and it works perfectly.

[Focker]

Originally posted by himura-dono@Mar 15 2003, 05:06 PM
no, i show them side comparison of their apple (these were g4 owners mostly) to my dually. the difference in performance allowed them to make their choice. i'd say out of 50+ people i've tried, only those 23 have converted so far. many really do prefer the simplicity of their macs. some feel bound by their macs and want to be free and have more control. people make their own choices, just like pc owners choose between amd and intel. i never intended this to start out as a mac bash, but after cmar opened his piehole to assume it was, it became one.

i think macs have their purposes, and so do pc's. for me, pc's are more versatile for my uses and have more benefits over a mac. so i went the pc route.

so, you messing wit me, focker? <_<
yep

[DaBestSpooner]

Originally posted by thaite@Mar 11 2003, 09:03 PM
I could care less if a PC user doesn't want to use a Mac, but I will say that their viewpoint is usually based on some impression they made when they used one 6 years ago somewhere using early hardware and OS 7.

Lacks cutting edge software? Lacks flexibility? You're either kidding or just don't know.
just like the mac switch commercials represents the attributes of windows 95

[DaBestSpooner]

Steve Jobs has a change of heart

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-983898.html