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kasia
07-17-2002, 11:20 AM
SIGN THE PETITION || URGENT action is needed to fight TheRAVE Act! ||

Hello all,
This is a very serious situation. If passed we will all be affected.
Please take a second out of your busy schedule and sign this petition to
fight what Congress has titled "The Rave Act". It can just as easily
be used at any hip hop club, rock concert or music festival. Details
are below or just go to

http://buzzlife.com/buzzdc/page.cfm?pg=contests&contest_id=13

And forward it on to as many people as possible.

S 2633 -The RAVE Act
For the full text of this bill, please go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and search for S 2633

Purpose: Senators Grassley and Biden on June 18th proposed the Reducing
America's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act of 2002 (S2633). This RAVE Act
is in the Senate now and is awaiting a vote. This proposed bill focuses
on establishments that feature electronic dance music. Under this bill,
the federal government would have the power to prosecute law-abiding,
tax paying venue owners and event promoters for the actions of their
customers.

Status: This bill is awaiting a vote in the Senate and can be voted on
anytime on or after July 8th, 2002.

Background: Senate Bill 2633 is an attempt by legislators to reduce the
illegal use of ecstasy by re-writing Title 21 U.S. Code Section 856
(aka the "crack house law") so that it can be easily used to shut down
electronic dance music events. This legislation adds a $250,000 minimum
civil liability clause to the existing criminal penalties of up to 20
years imprisonment and possible $500,000 fine. This legislation could have
a devastating effect on the electronic dance music community.

The RAVE Act along with other bills such as H.R. 3782, known as "Clean,
Learn, Educate, Abolish, Neutralize, and Undermine Production
(CLEAN-UP) of Methamphetamines Act of 2002, seriously jeopardize the liberties
of law-abiding promoters and partygoers. Language used in both bills
specifically target electronic dance music, even identifying events or
raves as places with bass heavy sounds and repetitive rhythms. Targeting a
music genre clearly violates our civil freedom. For more information on
the effect this could have on you, visit www.aclu.org and search for
“rave”.

What You Can Do: Take action NOW! S 2633 was introduced under special
rules and could be voted on as soon as July 8th, 2002

1. Sign the online petition, go to
http://buzzlife.com/buzzdc/page.cfm?pg=contests&contest_id=13
2. Write or call your respective Senators and House Representatives and
make it clear that you want them to vote against the RAVE Act in the
Senate, and the CLEAN-UP Act in the House.

You can contact your representatives by calling the Capitol Switchboard
at
202.224.3121. To find your representatives, go to
http://www.vote-smart.org/.

3. Spread the word! Tell your friends, family, coworkers to sign the
petition and call their representatives.

Some Points to Make:

The electronic dance music industry and culture has existed for 20
years.

There is a viable industry of electronic music professionals that in no
way profit or promote drug use.

Electronic music is a part of our mainstream society. Corporate
entities such as Volkswagen and Gap Inc are currently featuring this music in
their commercials.

Law abiding, tax paying venue owners and event promoters should not be
held accountable for the actions of their patrons.

Electronic dance music has saturated the US at nightclubs, concert
halls and festivals, as well as on TV, radio and cable. It is a form of
artistic expression, which is NOT synonymous with drug use.

Production and performance based events such as ours will be in
jeopardy.

Thank you,
Spiritworld Productions

wylin
07-17-2002, 11:26 AM
i support the bill ban raves =X.

But seriously, i think that the rave industry has been rightfully targeted and should be liable for what goes on inside the venues. I mean the penalties seem stiff but honestly do i want my 16 yr old karizma getting doped up and going to these RAVE parties...i dont think so. You got to see the perspective of the parents and they are the ones who pay the price of letting their children attend these events. =P

kasia
07-17-2002, 12:47 PM
i agree with the age-thing. but i don't agree with banning raves or like events. once you're of a certain age, you should have the right to make your own decisions.

wylin
07-17-2002, 01:06 PM
[quote:f3736be4f4="kasia"]i agree with the age-thing. but i don't agree with banning raves or like events. once you're of a certain age, you should have the right to make your own decisions.[/quote:f3736be4f4]

then they should check for ID atleast, like make raves like anyother clubs by checking if your 18 and up. I just see alota teeny boppers at raves like the kind mrazntre likes young and dumb kids who think its kewl to drop E get high and get crazy and damage themselves. Not like alota adults are any smarter...

will

kasia
07-19-2002, 02:54 PM
bump.

rave act.

important issue for asians.

wylin
07-19-2002, 11:14 PM
[quote:593c36f750="kasia"]bump.

rave act.

important issue for asians.[/quote:593c36f750]

not that important and why do asians automatically get lumped as ravers? does it mean we're more likely to be in the rave scene...? overall tho this is an important subject too anyone into electronic music and raving.

princess
07-20-2002, 02:13 AM
[quote:56495a8aec="kasia"]i agree with the age-thing. but i don't agree with banning raves or like events. once you're of a certain age, you should have the right to make your own decisions.[/quote:56495a8aec]


im with kasia on this one. an age limit probably would be smart...tho i realize that by supporting the age limit im probably shooting myself in the foot since im still not legal and i went to my first rave when i was 15. i like the rave scene though and i think that it shouldnt be banned. for the people that ARE legal its their choice to be there. as for the drug concern: the drug scene will rage on even minus the raves.

kasia
07-20-2002, 03:19 PM
[quote:ae7912740b="wylin"][quote:ae7912740b="kasia"]bump.

rave act.

important issue for asians.[/quote:ae7912740b]

not that important and why do asians automatically get lumped as ravers? does it mean we're more likely to be in the rave scene...?[/quote:ae7912740b]

i dunno. i just see a lot of asians at raves. and the Act doesn't just ban raves but also rave-like clubs and events.

bigwong235
07-21-2002, 03:44 AM
most raves now are 18+... if they're not, they're probably illegal anyway. most of the BIG production companies that get huge venues and pull in big talent make their parties 18+ so that way they don't get stuck w/any lawsuits if some teenybopper od's and dies (i'm assuming you guys already knew that since it seems a lot of you are doing the law thing in school). but most of the time, the security at the "electronic music festivals" don't really care or just aren't careful enough, so it's pretty easy for younger kids to get in. as for the drug issue... well, as much as i hate to admit it, it's as much a part of the rave culture now as the djs. on average, i see about 70% of the people at raves on some type of drug. but, getting rid of raves really won't stop it anyway. targeting raves as a way to crackdown on ecstasy is just silly. i'm sure there are other more serious issues that the gov't has to deal with than trying to stop a bunch of people from going to a rave and listening to "rave" music. besides, like eminem said, "nobody listens to techno." :D don't know exactly where i'm going with this, but i just got home from a rave and my legs are sore. 8O

achtungbaby
07-22-2002, 07:14 PM
[quote:46dbde2f0d="wylin"]I mean the penalties seem stiff but honestly do i want my 16 yr old karizma getting doped up and going to these RAVE parties...i dont think so. You got to see the perspective of the parents and they are the ones who pay the price of letting their children attend these events. =P[/quote:46dbde2f0d]

I agree 100% with what you're saying, I just think there are a ton of other viable solutions. Based on what I've seen so far of the bill...it's just politics, baby. Issue: young teens "dying" from too much e. Response: politicians come to the rescue of hard-working, middle-Americans by introducing legislation that cracks down on deviance.

Too many friggen laws (no offense kasie and alex). They should just enforce the laws already in place.

Arex
07-22-2002, 10:43 PM
[quote:ecde702394="achtungbaby"]Too many friggen laws (no offense kasie and alex). They should just enforce the laws already in place.[/quote:ecde702394]

No need to apologize to me for taking issue with the current state of the code...I didn't write that shit. Remember, we don't write that shit, we profit off of it!=) (Actually, that wouldn't be Kasie or I either... :? )

Alex

kasia
07-23-2002, 09:54 AM
do lawyers make laws or something?

karizma
07-25-2002, 02:17 AM
>> i dont go raving anymore but i still this act is wrong. i was listening to a discussion about this on the radio where the senator who came up with this thing basically said that teens are more inclined to do drugs at an event like this than at a rock or rap concert, which i think is pretty stupid cause maybe she didnt see the clouds of weed smoke emanating from the crowd...most raves here are now 18+ and end at around 2am which is pretty fricken gay...but its not like underaged kids dont find a way to get in with like fake id's and whatnot....

>> i really dont think its fair for all of us to suffer because a couple teeny boppers got xed out and either oD'ed or did something stupid...because its not like raves are the only places people drop...my idiot friends do it every chance they get...theres always the e-parties and whatever held at people's houses...no reason to put entertainment companies out of business because some fricken politician has never been to rave, doesnt understand what a rave is all about, and doesnt understand why us younguns do it...so therefore has to shut it down...grr...ok im upset. haha

angelnympho
07-25-2002, 04:05 PM
it's not fair to blame the industry and the music for the decisions some people have made. they'll start outlawing parties, then clubs, then what? the entire electronic music industry? that's bullshit.

why dont they just blame themselves for not being able to enforce drug laws to begin with?

CrX3183
07-28-2002, 09:26 PM
Is this act going to even pass???