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VV o n g B a
03-06-2003, 10:37 AM
well jeepers mr. wilson... i'd hate to do assembly code for this monster.

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Sony chip could transform video-game industry
TECHNOLOGY ENVISIONS ALL-IN-ONE BOX FOR HOME
By Dean Takahashi
Mercury News

Sony's next-generation video-game console, due in just two years, will feature a revolutionary architecture that will allow it to pack the processing power of a hundred of today's personal computers on a single chip and tap the resources of additional computers using high-speed network connections.

If key technical hurdles are overcome, the ``cell microprocessor'' technology, described in a patent Sony quietly secured in September, could help the Japanese electronics giant achieve the industry's holy grail: a cheap, all-in-one box for the home that can record television shows, surf the Net in 3-D, play music and run movie-like video games.

Besides the PlayStation 3 game console, Sony and its partners, IBM and Toshiba, hope to use the same basic chip design -- which organizes small groups of microprocessors to work together like bees in a hive -- for a range of computing devices, from tiny handheld personal digital assistants to the largest corporate servers.

If the partners succeed in crafting such a modular, all-purpose chip, it would challenge the dominance of Intel and other chip makers that make specialized chips for each kind of electronic device.

``This is a new class of beast,'' said Richard Doherty, an analyst at the Envisioneering Group in Seaford, N.Y. ``There is nothing like this project when it comes to how far-reaching it will be.''

Game industry insiders became aware of Sony's patent in the past few weeks, and the technology is expected to be a hot topic at the Game Developers Conference in San Jose this week. Since it can take a couple of years to write a game for a new system, developers will be pressing Sony and its rivals for technical details of their upcoming boxes, which are scheduled to debut in 2005.

Ken Kutaragi, head of Sony's game division and mastermind of the company's last two game boxes, is betting that in an era of networked devices, many distributed processors working together will be able to outperform a single processor, such as the Pentium chip at the heart of most PCs.

With the PS 3, Sony will apparently put 72 processors on a single chip: eight PowerPC microprocessors, each of which controls eight auxiliary processors.

Using sophisticated software to manage the workload, the PowerPC processors will divide complicated problems into smaller tasks and tap as many of the auxiliary processors as necessary to tackle them.

``The cell processors won't work alone,'' Doherty said. ``They will work in teams to handle the tasks at hand, no matter whether it is processing a video game or communications.''

As soon as each processor or team finishes its job, it will be immediately redeployed to do something else.

Such complex, on-the-fly coordination is a technical challenge, and not just for Sony. Game developers warn that the cell chips do so many things at once that it could be a nightmare writing programs for them -- the same complaint they originally had about the PlayStation 2, Sony's current game console.

Tim Sweeney, chief executive of Epic Games in Raleigh, N.C., said that programming games for the PS 3 will be far more complicated than for the PS 2 because the programmer will have to keep track of all the tasks being performed by dozens of processors.

``I can't imagine how you will actually program it,'' he said. ``You do all these tasks in parallel, but the results of one task may affect the results of another task.''

But Sony and its partners believe that if they can coordinate those processors at maximum efficiency, the PS 3 will be able to process a trillion math operations per second -- the equivalent of 100 Intel Pentium 4 chips and 1,000 times faster than processing power of the PS 2.

full story (http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5310853.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp)

himura-dono
03-06-2003, 02:19 PM
wasn't this posted like...ages ago?

still....*want's ps3*

VV o n g B a
03-06-2003, 02:42 PM
yea, but this report has some more detail.

Napoleon Chynamite
03-06-2003, 03:17 PM
Nintendo pride

himura-dono
03-06-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Mar 6 2003, 03:17 PM
Nintendo pride
enjoy when you're just a 3rd party lamer and hand console gamer.

igcognito
03-06-2003, 09:46 PM
Nintendo sucks. I did printo of all the releases for the CUBE and they had like 1.25 pages. and like only 3 decent exclusives listen X Box and PS2 and 2.25 pages and PS2 had plenty of exlusives and xbox had liker 10.

AltimaGTR
03-06-2003, 10:40 PM
Quality over quantity man, quality over quantity...

(Cube and PS2 owner :D)

Fireblade
03-06-2003, 11:42 PM
From what I can tell for Sony and Nintendo

Sony = Great Looking Games, VERY LONG, Very Deep, Mostly 3rd Party, Good 1 player Games.

Nintendo = Fun, Colorful Games, Mostly Short, Very Entertaining, Mostly Party Games, Good for multiple Gamers.

Just depends on what you like. Personally, I like both. :lol:

Haven't given the X-Box a try though. It's the witch's brew.... <_<

Napoleon Chynamite
03-06-2003, 11:47 PM
Bottom line is I like Nintendo games the best and I am also very nostalgic about my gaming since I don't really game anymore. You can keep ur mass-producing Grand Theft Auto/Midnight Mission Metal Gear Solid fare. *sticks out tongue* Sony and Microsoft may know how to do business but IMHO Nintendo will always have the quality.

Arex
03-07-2003, 02:50 AM
Eh, never understood why people felt compelled to "prove" that any one system was "better" than any other. I know if I didn't have a Cube, I'd be peeved that I didn't have Metroid Prime or Zelda. And if I didn't have a PS2, I'd be jealous of not having GTA experience. Buy 'em all and then you don't have to hate on anyone's system and games.=)

PS3 in two years? That's not that far off... I'll be looking forward to it!

Alex

VV o n g B a
03-11-2003, 10:04 AM
whaaaddaaa? ps3 to come out this year? sony has denied this story, but thats just what they would say right?

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Sony to Introduce PlayStation 3 in 2003, Commercial Times Says
By Alan Patterson


Tokyo, March 10 (Bloomberg) -- Sony Corp., the world's second- largest consumer-electronics maker, will introduce the PlayStation 3 video-game console this year, two years ahead of schedule, to widen its lead over rivals, the Commercial Times said, citing unidentified people at Taiwanese parts suppliers.

Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. of Taiwan, which assembles the PlayStation 2 for Sony, and other parts suppliers on the island will start trial production next month, the report said.

Sony may start selling the PlayStation 3 in Japan as early as midyear and overseas by the end of the year, the report said. The PlayStation 3 will use an unidentified processor different from the PlayStation 2 chip, which is made by Toshiba Corp., the report said. Calls to the public relations department of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Sony's game unit, were not answered.

Tokyo-based Sony, in collaboration with International Business Machines Corp. and Toshiba, is developing a new processor capable of handling sophisticated graphics and sound over the Internet. The chip, called ``Cell,'' is still in development, Molly Smith, a spokeswoman with Sony Computer Entertainment America, said on March 4.

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thaite
03-11-2003, 11:14 AM
Sounds doable... but expensive as hell.