Board Hacks

[achtungbaby]

A few of the hacks installed today are definitely staying, and they're the least obtrusive I guess:

- modifying the forum URL's so that the session ID's will no longer appear (which can hinder getting spidered);
- a sitemap (http://forums.yellowworld.org/sitemap.php) which is really only for spidering too;
- modifications to the user permissions, which can now be set on an individual basis
- the new calendar (http://forums.yellowworld.org/index.php?s=&act=calendar)

Stuff we're still testin' out:

- karma (allows moderators to 'praise' or 'warn' members)
- member money...which is getting more lame by the moment.

[lethal]

What is user_money anyway?

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Feb 27 2003, 06:38 PM
What is user_money anyway?
Just points members get for each reply or post. I know, I know...exciting stuff.

[achtungbaby]

Am also disabling the quotes feature temporarily...need to cut down on queries...

[teaz0r]

is there a store hack? sorta like the vB one i showed you?
cuz without the store user money = post count pretty much no?

[himura-dono]

i like the karma idea. but yeah the um...money thing... :blink:

[AltimaGTR]

In addition to Karma, we could have a member-influenced rating system. That way people could see if they have space for improvement *cough*koreanhunk*cough*

[VV o n g B a]

oh, and you can set the minimum level of karma that you wish to view... that way, kh would basically just drop off the face of the earth.

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 27 2003, 07:30 PM
oh, and you can set the minimum level of karma that you wish to view... that way, kh would basically just drop off the face of the earth.
wow..that gives me a useful idea for this user money stuff...

don AB how much for a hit?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Feb 27 2003, 09:44 PM
Just points members get for each reply or post. I know, I know...exciting stuff.
do mods and admins give out these points? i don't get it. how did i get 30 moneys?

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Feb 27 2003, 07:37 PM
do mods and admins give out these points? i don't get it. how did i get 30 moneys?
The user_money is automated...each time you post, some more should be added...

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Feb 27 2003, 10:42 PM
The user_money is automated...each time you post, some more should be added...
so that's like... a fancy version of post count?

[airborneranger]

haha I thought it is karma sutra
Now you talking,
money sure will got me sucked in

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Feb 27 2003, 07:45 PM
so that's like... a fancy version of post count?
Yes, but it's moneeeeey...

Yeah, I thought the hack did something else but apparently it doesn't.

[VV o n g B a]

could we use money kinda like experience points? u get a certain amount of money and u can "buy" a new ability on the forum or like h-d said use the money to "hit" someone. when u "hit" someone, their money and karma goes down. the "hittee's" money could go down 2 bucks for every 1 buck u spend.

this would be just like the game theory articles i've read. :D

[AltimaGTR]

^oh shit! That'd be so tite! Mann we gotta implement WangBa's idea- PLZ PLZ PLZ!

[ism]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 27 2003, 11:08 PM
could we use money kinda like experience points? u get a certain amount of money and u can "buy" a new ability on the forum or like h-d said use the money to "hit" someone. when u "hit" someone, their money and karma goes down.

this would be just like the game theory articles i've read. :D
If you hit someone for karma... does that give them the ability to hit you back three times?

[VV o n g B a]

Originally posted by ism@Feb 27 2003, 10:27 PM
If you hit someone for karma... does that give them the ability to hit you back three times?
huh? i don't get it.

but now that i think about it, u'd prolly have to give the "hitter" a choice of either hitting money or karma. and hitting karma would have to cost the "hitter" lots o' money.

[AltimaGTR]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 27 2003, 08:31 PM
huh? i don't get it.

but now that i think about it, u'd prolly have to give the "hitter" a choice of either hitting money or karma. and hitting karma would have to cost the "hitter" lots o' money.
I can see it already: people pooling their money into little funds, heheh! I think I'll call my fund the "Stop pointless threads AKA kh fund"! :P

[teaz0r]

Originally posted by ism@Feb 28 2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 27 2003, 11:08 PM
could we use money kinda like experience points?  u get a certain amount of money and u can "buy" a new ability on the forum or like h-d said use the money to "hit" someone.  when u "hit" someone, their money and karma goes down.

this would be just like the game theory articles i've read.   :D
If you hit someone for karma... does that give them the ability to hit you back three times?
three fold =)
cute.

[kangal]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 27 2003, 10:08 PM
could we use money kinda like experience points? u get a certain amount of money and u can "buy" a new ability on the forum or like h-d said use the money to "hit" someone. when u "hit" someone, their money and karma goes down. the "hittee's" money could go down 2 bucks for every 1 buck u spend.

this would be just like the game theory articles i've read. :D
making this into a game...how fun ...even more reasons to come to yw. :D

[AltimaGTR]

It would be called a MOFRPG (Multiplayer Online Forum Role Playing Game)! Just without the $20 monthly fee.

[kangal]

also...can we buy stuff with this "money"? i think itd be cool if we coudl..i dunno...buy like cooler colors or fonts or etc or snazzier stuff that make us look richer....i'm all for class warfare here...=)

[purezero]

My apologies, but I'm extremely confused about how the Karma thing works. So... moderators give out these point things? What's an example of a bad thing that would get you bad karma? And good? Sorry, maybe it's because it's late, but I don't get it.

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by ti12amisu@Feb 27 2003, 11:49 PM
My apologies, but I'm extremely confused about how the Karma thing works. So... moderators give out these point things? What's an example of a bad thing that would get you bad karma? And good? Sorry, maybe it's because it's late, but I don't get it.
act like k-hunk, you get bad karma, act like a good person, you get good karma.

bad karma eventually leads to getting slammed with eunuch status or i think a full ban from what ab hinted at.

[Hanuman]

But we all start at zero for karma? so positive Karma is a good thing? Like Karma:10. and Karma:-9 is real bad?

[ChinaLama]

i think if you get -6 karma, you can't post anymore. any more bad karmas would just be for spite? :D

BTW I think the user_money thing can be open to abuse. wouldn't that give someone an incentive to post whore? maybe there should be a cap per some time period to prevent that?

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Feb 28 2003, 03:00 AM
i think if you get -6 karma, you can't post anymore. any more bad karmas would just be for spite? :D

BTW I think the user_money thing can be open to abuse. wouldn't that give someone an incentive to post whore? maybe there should be a cap per some time period to prevent that?
i know man, i thought all my post whoring was done with once I made Mafia, but now I have incentive to keep going. :lol: maybe subtract user money for each time mods gotta delete a post?

[AltimaGTR]

Another idea: an IGNORE button...other forums have it in one way or another, we should, too!

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Feb 28 2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by ChinaLama@Feb 28 2003, 03:00 AM
i think if you get -6 karma, you can't post anymore. any more bad karmas would just be for spite? :D

BTW I think the user_money thing can be open to abuse. wouldn't that give someone an incentive to post whore? maybe there should be a cap per some time period to prevent that?
i know man, i thought all my post whoring was done with once I made Mafia, but now I have incentive to keep going. :lol: maybe subtract user money for each time mods gotta delete a post?
yeah, but it seems like you have a $100 limit per day.

i posted like, 20+ times yesterday after the hacks, and i only had $100, yet recieved $10 per post up to that point.

so, there seems to be a cap.


now, maybe make the neg karma and pos karma drop 1 every month, until neutrality is reached? that would allow people some room to breath if they scew up at first and won't result in everyone having like +23 karma.

i dunno...i was thinking about it yesterday, and i thought it would be a better system than eunuchization. this way, you see that you're pissing off people and can work to change it before you get banned. and a month only sounds short if you don't post frequently, however, the bad apples always post frequently. so it still works...well, in my head it does.

[kitty]

I like the idea of being able to use the money to buy things... like more smileys? ^_^

[airborneranger]

Hey achtung You don't by any chance following other messageboard's karma thing do you ?
Because there is someone called achtung baby on another message board that has karma count since a while back

[kitty]

I'm confused... is there anywhere to use the user_money yet?

oh, and i've seen karma being used in lots of places... it's about time we got it.

[Korean Hunk]

Do we get a free t shirt with 300 money user points?

my Ricky Martin shirt is getting holes.

[FlareZz]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 27 2003, 08:08 PM
could we use money kinda like experience points? u get a certain amount of money and u can "buy" a new ability on the forum or like h-d said use the money to "hit" someone. when u "hit" someone, their money and karma goes down. the "hittee's" money could go down 2 bucks for every 1 buck u spend.

this would be just like the game theory articles i've read. :D
Hah, trust a guy with WongBa as his name with abilities to screw other ppl outta their money?
thats bastardly...but i like it :P

i also like kangal's idea of giving us more creative control over our posts in terms of fonts and such with money.
that'll be fun too, you can either spend money messing with others, or improving yourself....hmmmmm

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by FlareZz@Mar 4 2003, 05:48 AM
screw other ppl outta their money?
thats bastardly...but i like it :P

i also like kangal's idea of giving us more creative control over our posts in terms of fonts and such with money.
that'll be fun too, you can either spend money messing with others, or improving yourself....hmmmmm
economics studies repeatedly show people would rather give up a portion of their own income to see someone with a higher income than them lose money, rather than keep their current income and let that someone with the higher income keep raking in so much more than themselves.

[VV o n g B a]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Mar 6 2003, 01:17 PM

economics studies repeatedly show people would rather give up a portion of their own income to see someone with a higher income than them lose money, rather than keep their current income and let that someone with the higher income keep raking in so much more than themselves.
in that case, we can implement positive hits to encourage cooperation. maybe ppl are allowed once a day to hit someone positively when they like a comment and it increases their money double the cost of the hitter. the action can be reciprocated once a day too. therefore it would be in everyone's interest to do good and behave nicely.

[kitty]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Mar 7 2003, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Mar 6 2003, 01:17 PM

economics studies repeatedly show people would rather give up a portion of their own income to see someone with a higher income than them lose money, rather than keep their current income and let that someone with the higher income keep raking in so much more than themselves.
in that case, we can implement positive hits to encourage cooperation. maybe ppl are allowed once a day to hit someone positively when they like a comment and it increases their money double the cost of the hitter. the action can be reciprocated once a day too. therefore it would be in everyone's interest to do good and behave nicely.
:confused:

i... don't understand

[angelwiththesword]

i like the idea of using your user_money to hire a hitman to take out some other users' karma and/or money
i'd be the resident game.
and you'd need a godly amount of money to do that too, eg: 3000-4000 a hit to take someone's money down to nothing, or 4000-5000 to take out a +ve karma point

[VV o n g B a]

Originally posted by kittygirl@Mar 7 2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Mar 7 2003, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Mar 6 2003, 01:17 PM

economics studies repeatedly show people would rather give up a portion of their own income to see someone with a higher income than them lose money, rather than keep their current income and let that someone with the higher income keep raking in so much more than themselves.
in that case, we can implement positive hits to encourage cooperation. maybe ppl are allowed once a day to hit someone positively when they like a comment and it increases their money double the cost of the hitter. the action can be reciprocated once a day too. therefore it would be in everyone's interest to do good and behave nicely.
:confused:

i... don't understand
ali is saying that ppl are jealous and poorer ppl will work to keep the richest ppl from getting richer.

i'm saying we can use a pat on the back kind of system where one person spends some money on another person, and the other person will receive twice (or some positive multiple of) the amount of money spent. but since this is open to abuse, we would have to limit the exchanges by time period.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Can I trade in my user money for some donuts?

[angelwiththesword]

here is something interesting.

perhaps there should be different levels of YW Mafia.

if you look around, you'll see mafia people from 1000 all the way up to 6000+ coughcoughsunwucough

how about it?

[Xishi]

What is the difference between a moderator and an admininstrater...?

Which one am I..??!~~~~??~~!
<_<

[angelwiththesword]

moderators "moderate" each section of a forum.
the administrators moderate the moderators and keep the entire forum happy.

you and i are merely members.

the Yellowworld XXXXX titles merely show your post count.

[Xishi]

Thanks angelwithasword,

Good god...I am still just a YW Minor..? Boy do I have a long way to go on the YW social ladder... :D

[angelwiththesword]

i think you become a citizen at 50 posts. and they go up by 100 post incraments until you hit Governer. i am not exactly sure the incraments afterward, but i would imagine they would prolly go up by 200 post or 250 post incraments afterward until you hit 1000 posts, where you become part of the YW Mafia.

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

Why did my karma drop down to 0 again?

[angelwiththesword]

hrm user_money seems to have disappeared. i wonder whatever for